Took a look at Zotacs site and it looks like its 4K@30Hz on HDMI so I am guessing its only HDMI 1.4... The Shield is still a better proposition than this (as a future-proof HTPC only box).
Im waiting for the first uSFF PC with a 2.0a HDMI output, personally.
uSFF with HDMI 2.0a is at least a year away. In the short term, we should be seeing the Intel Skull Canyon NUC with HDMI 2.0a / Thunderbolt 3 support, but that has a slightly bigger footprint compared to the traditional NUC.
I was also hoping for HDMI 2.0. Their new Skylake MI551 looked interesting, with it's USB 3.1, but then I saw "M.2 SATA" port and closed their site. Who builds a Skylake platform with an M.2 that isn't NVMe, let alone PCIe?! :-(
Do any of them have Intel NICs. I would have purchased a Zbox last generation because they would make a great home Firewall/NAT...If they had Intel NICs.
So it seems they don't have AMD models anymore, although Carrizo seems like a good fit. I read that Intel didn't sell them processors anymore after they launched a Kaveri model last year and effectively blackmailed them.
Yeah, that's quite the accusation there... I think you should just take a look at what everyone else has in their lineup.
Gigabyte BRIX hardly has any AMD units in their lineup. Maybe the Carrizo stuff puts out too much heat to operate at peak performance in those NUC like enclosures? Maybe they cost too much? Maybe the BoM required makes them expensive compared to i5+970m?
Carrizo has a configurable TDP from 12 to 35W and should be sufficient, the tests available all paint a decent picture. I also don't think they cost too much, AMD even says they're cheaper than Intel processors. The board should also be simple considering the fact Carrizo is a full SoC. Maybe they just think there isn't much demand, but I'm sure many people would want one.
I sure hope Zotac puts a Zen into their lineup whenever Zen are available. Otherwise I'm going to be very mad at Zotac (my brand of choice for mini-PC).
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BuddyRich - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
Took a look at Zotacs site and it looks like its 4K@30Hz on HDMI so I am guessing its only HDMI 1.4... The Shield is still a better proposition than this (as a future-proof HTPC only box).Im waiting for the first uSFF PC with a 2.0a HDMI output, personally.
ganeshts - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
uSFF with HDMI 2.0a is at least a year away. In the short term, we should be seeing the Intel Skull Canyon NUC with HDMI 2.0a / Thunderbolt 3 support, but that has a slightly bigger footprint compared to the traditional NUC.hubick - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
I was also hoping for HDMI 2.0. Their new Skylake MI551 looked interesting, with it's USB 3.1, but then I saw "M.2 SATA" port and closed their site. Who builds a Skylake platform with an M.2 that isn't NVMe, let alone PCIe?! :-(oskrr1 - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
Do any of them have Intel NICs. I would have purchased a Zbox last generation because they would make a great home Firewall/NAT...If they had Intel NICs.Dobson123 - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
So it seems they don't have AMD models anymore, although Carrizo seems like a good fit. I read that Intel didn't sell them processors anymore after they launched a Kaveri model last year and effectively blackmailed them.Flunk - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
Really? I heard it was because sales of the Kaveri model were terrible.Dobson123 - Sunday, January 17, 2016 - link
That wasn't surprising considering the fact they were released only a few months before Carrizo arrived and a year or so after Kaveri launched.heffeque - Sunday, January 17, 2016 - link
Just saw that there's an AMD in there: the MA760. It's Kaveri isntead of Carrizo. What the heck? Anyway... Zen can't come any sooner.geekman1024 - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
Intel balckmailed Zotac? Do you have any evident? This is a serious accusation on Intel committing crime.JFYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail
Dobson123 - Sunday, January 17, 2016 - link
I tried to look up the source but found nothing, it was just FUD I read in a forum. Sorry.meacupla - Saturday, January 16, 2016 - link
Yeah, that's quite the accusation there...I think you should just take a look at what everyone else has in their lineup.
Gigabyte BRIX hardly has any AMD units in their lineup.
Maybe the Carrizo stuff puts out too much heat to operate at peak performance in those NUC like enclosures? Maybe they cost too much? Maybe the BoM required makes them expensive compared to i5+970m?
Dobson123 - Sunday, January 17, 2016 - link
Carrizo has a configurable TDP from 12 to 35W and should be sufficient, the tests available all paint a decent picture. I also don't think they cost too much, AMD even says they're cheaper than Intel processors. The board should also be simple considering the fact Carrizo is a full SoC. Maybe they just think there isn't much demand, but I'm sure many people would want one.heffeque - Sunday, January 17, 2016 - link
I sure hope Zotac puts a Zen into their lineup whenever Zen are available. Otherwise I'm going to be very mad at Zotac (my brand of choice for mini-PC).phoenix_rizzen - Monday, January 18, 2016 - link
There's 3 AMD models listed in the table in the article.