If the price is right, it is a great "smart" portable monitor. Decent specs for content consumption, could be a decent terminal device as well. Will probably be useful for education and demonstration, the larger size will allow for more spectators than a typical size tablet device.
No one saw a market for Samsungs 12+ inch tablets two years ago. Today everybody focuses on 12+ inch tablets. "I don't see a market for this" is one of the most common comments on new Samsung device releases, I think. I remember when tech blogs had readers who were progressive. Today everybody "interested" in tech are so afraid of innovation.
Considering we are using a tablet for playing games, downloading and watching movies, I must say Samsung Galaxy Note Pro is a recommended one. Best display ever because of it's Extra Large HD Display. See from: http://www.consumerrunner.com/top-10-best-tablets/
Apple used to ship iMacs with 15" and 17" displays. I think the potential market for cheap computer still exists, they just normally get laptops instead of desktops.
Speaking of which, if this thing were an 18" laptop I don't think anyone would blink (other than being Android powered).
Yeah but you can get a nice Lenovo or HP AIO running Windows 10 for $500-$600 with the same size or larger screen than this. I just don't see a market for an android "AIO" because Android apps just aren't designed for this environment.
This could have a pretty significant market if, and I mean IF, the price is right. It would be great in the kitchen, office, showrooms, and other places where an 18" media player is needed.
However, if the rumored $599 price is true, then I don't see it succeeding that much.
This is most likely going to stay on a table, and that's not a bad thing. Even if Sammy says otherwise, I don't see people carrying this around, even if it was lighter.
Yep. Pretty much for anyone who wants the simplicity of a tablet but doesn't need the portability and could benefit from a larger screen. May it be due to weak eye sight, clumsy fingers or just to have a larger screen.
Carrying it around wouldn't be so bad.. it's not too long ago that laptops used to weight this much. But holding it in the hands for longer times may be considered a good workout and won't appeal to most people, obviously.
I think it would be pretty good for demonstrating Android apps at tradeshows. It's not a big market but it would make demoing apps for a small croud pretty easy. I'm pretty sure Samsung just made this because they can, just to see if it sells.
If it had a rear camera (preferably a poor quality one like most tablets have), it would have been ideal for those people who like to make themselves look utter fools by taking photos on a tablet. The larger the tablet, the more stupid they make themselves look.
1080p display on a 18" tablet... what? And only 2GB RAM? Yes, yes, I know, 2GB is enough now, but what about in 2 years? People don't tend to upgrade tablets as often as phones.
"The battery also looks very small if you assume a 3.85V chemistry" ... It's much more likely that they have more than 1 cell in series rather than a different chemistry. 2-3 5700mAh cells are still just 5700mAh, but have much higher total power (watt/hours) since W/h = (V1+V2+V3)*Ma/h.
The traditional measure of battery size is the Watt-Hour, which is the same as 1 Joule/sec * 1 hour or 3600 Joules. Joules would make more sense since a Joule is a measure of energy whereas the Wh is a measure of power multiplied by time.
I think Wh or Mah make a lot more sense considering most people don't seek the measure of energy, but the amount of time a battery will last at a given power draw. This is why they are used.
Joules are good for measuring current, typically in AC environments. I've never seen joules used for DC measurement unless it was for surge protection.
Well, a Wh measure actually makes more sense. Simply because it is homogenous to an energy (as you said, it's only a dimension-less constant between Wh and Joules). And while giving a capacity rating in Joules may be analogous to giving a non-American a distance in feet (wtf does that mean anyway?), Wh give a pretty human-centered, easy to understand estimation of the battery capacity (in a rough estimation, the battery can give X W for a whole hour, or X/2W for 2 hours, or....)
Of course, this is only a first order approximation, nowhere near representing the subtleties of how batteries work. But still.
Are large digitizers expensive or why we don't have 30+ inch android tablets/tv's?
I think there would be use in classrooms, meetingrooms and in many places for big and thin touchscreens running android or these days even windows thanks to decent touch gui.
I don't see how it comes close to the Panasonic 4K 20 inch tablet released 2 years ago and recently updated, but it may be shooting for a lower price point?
I would prefer just a big touchscreen with no battery, just Displayport - that can receive video and can carry touchscreen data over the Aux channel - and a power-in for either AC or battery supply. Then you could just plug in whatever you felt like carrying with you, be it a smartphone, a small form factor PC, a computer-on-a-stick, and - if you need to be on battery - a big slab that can power the whole lot, maybe in the form of a keyboard.
We need to modularize portable computing rather than creating more landfill devices that cannot adapt to enough scenarios to be worth carrying.
Priced right, I can see myself buying one to read recipes off in the kitchen.
Knowing that it's Samsung, it probably won't be priced low enough for that purpose though. But hopefully it will succeed and create a viable ecosystem so in a couple of years we have lots of cheap Chinese $100 20" tablets for me to use in the kitchen!
I have never understood why someone doesn't make abfull fledged editing Tablet in 18-21 inches. Let it have bad battery life, or have ports for external Sony or Canon batteries. But something with a really fast i7 with atleast a 2Gb dedicated graphics card and 16Gb RAM atleast. If it has touch maybe a separate keyboard won't even be required (though I am not sure how many profess editing softwares have full-fleded touch enabled editing). The new Lenovo 19 inch Tablet is out. But I am guessing it's processing power will be pretty average.
A Joule is a Ws hence the multiple of 3600 to convert hours to seconds for Wh to Ws. I.e. both are energy. Measuring battery size in Joules capacity would produce some preity big numbers.
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Gazzy - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
I don't see a market for this device at all......jgoldeneyes - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Neither do I.ddriver - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
If the price is right, it is a great "smart" portable monitor. Decent specs for content consumption, could be a decent terminal device as well. Will probably be useful for education and demonstration, the larger size will allow for more spectators than a typical size tablet device.theduckofdeath - Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - link
No one saw a market for Samsungs 12+ inch tablets two years ago. Today everybody focuses on 12+ inch tablets."I don't see a market for this" is one of the most common comments on new Samsung device releases, I think. I remember when tech blogs had readers who were progressive. Today everybody "interested" in tech are so afraid of innovation.
AlyssaMayer - Saturday, November 14, 2015 - link
Considering we are using a tablet for playing games, downloading and watching movies, I must say Samsung Galaxy Note Pro is a recommended one. Best display ever because of it's Extra Large HD Display. See from: http://www.consumerrunner.com/top-10-best-tablets/michael2k - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Apple used to ship iMacs with 15" and 17" displays. I think the potential market for cheap computer still exists, they just normally get laptops instead of desktops.Speaking of which, if this thing were an 18" laptop I don't think anyone would blink (other than being Android powered).
Samus - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Yeah but you can get a nice Lenovo or HP AIO running Windows 10 for $500-$600 with the same size or larger screen than this. I just don't see a market for an android "AIO" because Android apps just aren't designed for this environment.lilmoe - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
This could have a pretty significant market if, and I mean IF, the price is right. It would be great in the kitchen, office, showrooms, and other places where an 18" media player is needed.However, if the rumored $599 price is true, then I don't see it succeeding that much.
ThomasS31 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
With almost 3kg???No way please... this is baaad.
lilmoe - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
This is most likely going to stay on a table, and that's not a bad thing. Even if Sammy says otherwise, I don't see people carrying this around, even if it was lighter.Murloc - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
I can see a use for cheap touch terminals in showrooms to flip the pages of a PDF, but this isn't really cheap.MrSpadge - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
Yep. Pretty much for anyone who wants the simplicity of a tablet but doesn't need the portability and could benefit from a larger screen. May it be due to weak eye sight, clumsy fingers or just to have a larger screen.Carrying it around wouldn't be so bad.. it's not too long ago that laptops used to weight this much. But holding it in the hands for longer times may be considered a good workout and won't appeal to most people, obviously.
poohbear - Friday, October 30, 2015 - link
laptops are still 2-3kg. Why are you saying they used to be that weight?Flunk - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
I think it would be pretty good for demonstrating Android apps at tradeshows. It's not a big market but it would make demoing apps for a small croud pretty easy. I'm pretty sure Samsung just made this because they can, just to see if it sells.Mr Perfect - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Yeah, this clip just popped into my mind when reading this. https://vine.co/v/Oa1QQdpvOItHulk - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Niche market. As a working musician I could use this to view two pages of music at a time.PrinceGaz - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
If it had a rear camera (preferably a poor quality one like most tablets have), it would have been ideal for those people who like to make themselves look utter fools by taking photos on a tablet. The larger the tablet, the more stupid they make themselves look.poohbear - Friday, October 30, 2015 - link
people said the same thing for the first tablet & even the smartphone.osxandwindows - Sunday, November 1, 2015 - link
they are saying the same thing for the iPad pro.Shadow7037932 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
1080p display on a 18" tablet... what? And only 2GB RAM? Yes, yes, I know, 2GB is enough now, but what about in 2 years? People don't tend to upgrade tablets as often as phones.nerd1 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
So it's more than 1 pound heavier than Dell XPS 18, which is a windows tablet that can be used for mobile AIO.dave_the_nerd - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
/me sets 18" android tablet on music stand and begins playing tubadave_the_nerd - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
I've basically wanted something like this for 20 years.lilmoe - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
I believe this is using the Exynos 7580:- 8 x A53 @ 1.6GHz
- Mali-T720 MP2 @ 600 MHz
- 28nm HKMG
- 32-bit dual-channel 933 MHz LPDDR3 (14.9 GB/sec)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
Brandon Chester - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
That's stated in the article.lilmoe - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
My bad, just skimmed through the article and found the chart missing.SaberKOG91 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
This would be extremely useful...if it had an s-penYaBaBom - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
"The battery also looks very small if you assume a 3.85V chemistry" ... It's much more likely that they have more than 1 cell in series rather than a different chemistry. 2-3 5700mAh cells are still just 5700mAh, but have much higher total power (watt/hours) since W/h = (V1+V2+V3)*Ma/h.PixyMisa - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Why can't they just state battery capacity in Joules?Samus - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
You mean watts?cmikeh2 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
The traditional measure of battery size is the Watt-Hour, which is the same as 1 Joule/sec * 1 hour or 3600 Joules. Joules would make more sense since a Joule is a measure of energy whereas the Wh is a measure of power multiplied by time.Samus - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
I think Wh or Mah make a lot more sense considering most people don't seek the measure of energy, but the amount of time a battery will last at a given power draw. This is why they are used.Joules are good for measuring current, typically in AC environments. I've never seen joules used for DC measurement unless it was for surge protection.
nightbringer57 - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
Well, a Wh measure actually makes more sense.Simply because it is homogenous to an energy (as you said, it's only a dimension-less constant between Wh and Joules). And while giving a capacity rating in Joules may be analogous to giving a non-American a distance in feet (wtf does that mean anyway?), Wh give a pretty human-centered, easy to understand estimation of the battery capacity (in a rough estimation, the battery can give X W for a whole hour, or X/2W for 2 hours, or....)
Of course, this is only a first order approximation, nowhere near representing the subtleties of how batteries work. But still.
zepi - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Are large digitizers expensive or why we don't have 30+ inch android tablets/tv's?I think there would be use in classrooms, meetingrooms and in many places for big and thin touchscreens running android or these days even windows thanks to decent touch gui.
PrayForDeath - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Microsoft already has one. It's called the Surface Hubamdwilliam1985 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Surface Hub is about 10x to 20x more expensive than this product.rocky12345 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
It might be useful if it had Windows 10 on it instead of Andoid on it.rocky12345 - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
Just wanted to add I have nothing against Android but in a device this size it just makes more sense.bernardl - Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - link
I don't see how it comes close to the Panasonic 4K 20 inch tablet released 2 years ago and recently updated, but it may be shooting for a lower price point?V900 - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
Go home Samsung, you're drunk!Klug4Pres - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
I would prefer just a big touchscreen with no battery, just Displayport - that can receive video and can carry touchscreen data over the Aux channel - and a power-in for either AC or battery supply. Then you could just plug in whatever you felt like carrying with you, be it a smartphone, a small form factor PC, a computer-on-a-stick, and - if you need to be on battery - a big slab that can power the whole lot, maybe in the form of a keyboard.We need to modularize portable computing rather than creating more landfill devices that cannot adapt to enough scenarios to be worth carrying.
remosito - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
If it had a 4k screen it would have been an instant buy. Only HD resolution makes it worthless to me.psychobriggsy - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
This is a giant Galaxy S5 Neo.It presumably uses the same octa-core SoC, the Exynos Octa 7480, that has eight A53s and an ARM Mali T720MP2.
psychobriggsy - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
7580 ...Wolfpup - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
*facepalm* for running Android.And not even just Android, but Samsung's "special" already-outdated/insecure-when-you-buy-it-and-it-never-gets-updated Android.
Notmyusualid - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
Nice portable monitor....I hope 18.4" >1080p is on the way...
(on my 3rd 18.4" laptop....)
aryonoco - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
Priced right, I can see myself buying one to read recipes off in the kitchen.Knowing that it's Samsung, it probably won't be priced low enough for that purpose though. But hopefully it will succeed and create a viable ecosystem so in a couple of years we have lots of cheap Chinese $100 20" tablets for me to use in the kitchen!
Wolfpup - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
I use an Alienware Alpha with an i5 + a 24" monitor with built-in speakers and a mechanical keyboard for that (and other) kitchen use :-DSanveer - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
I have never understood why someone doesn't make abfull fledged editing Tablet in 18-21 inches. Let it have bad battery life, or have ports for external Sony or Canon batteries. But something with a really fast i7 with atleast a 2Gb dedicated graphics card and 16Gb RAM atleast. If it has touch maybe a separate keyboard won't even be required (though I am not sure how many profess editing softwares have full-fleded touch enabled editing).The new Lenovo 19 inch Tablet is out. But I am guessing it's processing power will be pretty average.
darkich - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
It's an "AIO' device, not a laptop..basicaly a touch screen monitor with an OS and a chip..darkich - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
.. not a *tablet *, that isJohn225 - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
A Joule is a Ws hence the multiple of 3600 to convert hours to seconds for Wh to Ws. I.e. both are energy. Measuring battery size in Joules capacity would produce some preity big numbers.zepi - Friday, October 30, 2015 - link
SI units. Just use kJ or MJ.That is the beauty of SI
zodiacfml - Friday, October 30, 2015 - link
Pricey picture frame. I'd rather buy a TV.Glideslope - Thursday, November 5, 2015 - link
Is this a joke?