I don't understand how almost all gaming headsets aren't made with multi-speaker setups. The difference in position perception is huge, and that should make a big difference for competitive situations.
Because VR has kicked everyone into realising "Oh hey, HRTFs still work". A proper HRTF with a single large driver will give MUCH better spatialisation than a bunch of small drivers. It will also provide better audio quality when you are not using spatialisation (e.g. music listening).
Multi-driver headphones are a dirty hack for when a 5.1 output is the only thing you have to work with.
Aureal A3D really had audio positioning down to a science. It was pretty convincing how it tricked the headphone wearer into positioning objects in space.
I really hope they fixed the interference issue from the G930.....it's practically unusable in an office environment or if you're living in an apartment. Sometimes mine would be cutting out ever 30-60 seconds for a few seconds at a time.
Indeed - I'm still struggling on with the G930, but I'm very reluctant to buy another Logitech headset as a result. The wireless freedom is nice for long conference calls (I'm a home worker), but the amount of times I've missed a question directed at myself, or some other important point pretty much outweights it.
What's really sad is I have a Logitech H820E dual headset for work. Uses the DECT standard. I can roam all over the house and office with this thing, sometimes to stupid distances without dropping a word. It's been very reliable despite two years of abuse.
Why they won't move all wireless headsets to DECT I have no idea.
I owned a 5.1 multi-speaker headset years ago, and I can tell that the difference between that and my current G930's spatialization/positioning is pretty much non-existant.
What I can tell you is that the overall sound quality on the G930 is better, mostly because of the drivers. While my old 5.1 multi-speaker had several "tiny" drivers in different positions, the G930's single driver gives a better response on a wider spectrum of the frequencies. And better bass too, for the explosions.
Granted, these are "gaming" oriented headsets, as for pure music listening a Sennheiser would most certainly be superior. I know of some models from other companies that use even bigger drivers (50mm or so), also with spatial virtualization. I've never had the chance to try one, but wonder if there would be big differences.
Why is there always, still, such a massive price premium for wireless models compared to wired? It irks me no end, especially when Logitech decides to include blingy LEDs as well. The damn headphones are gonna sit on my head, WHERE I CAN'T SEE THEM, why in the name of all that is holy would I want LEDs on them?
Is this what the "high-end" PC market has devolved into - products that are designed for the same type of people who put LEDs on the undersides of their cars?
I call this the "bling" segment of the market -- lots of flash, very little substance. If you want genuinely good "gaming" headsets, and you (for whatever reason) do not want to go the ModMic/separate mic + your pick of quality headphones route, then I suggest the gaming entries from Sennheiser (PC 350/360/G4ME) Beyerdynamic (MMX 300), or Audio-Technica (ATH-ADG1 or AG-1). Also, the Skullcandy SLYR gaming line isn't too shabby if you're on a budget (feel funny recommending Skullcandy, but that particular line is actually pretty decent for the price).
I have to disagree. The G930 was an excellent headset, despite it's flaws (constant disconnect/reconnects). I'm sure this headset will be great as well, but i just can't see myself buying another logitech headset unless they move to the 5 ghz band or improve the disconnect/reconnect issue.
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prime2515103 - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
I think Logitech has a corporate saboteur in their midst convincing them to make their headsets as ugly as possible.ddriver - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
Those are ugly indeed. I guess a 5 year old might think they look cool.Inteli - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
No kidding. I can stand their new mice, but those are extremely disgusting.Samus - Friday, August 28, 2015 - link
I'd spend $250 on the Steelseries H before I wasted $200 on some ugly-as-sin Logitech crap.Swiper34 - Thursday, January 7, 2016 - link
Ugly or not, a lot of League of Legends pros seem to be using them. They can't be that bad.Source: http://lolsetup.on-winning.com
ToTTenTranz - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
I don't understand how almost all gaming headsets aren't made with multi-speaker setups. The difference in position perception is huge, and that should make a big difference for competitive situations.edzieba - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
Because VR has kicked everyone into realising "Oh hey, HRTFs still work". A proper HRTF with a single large driver will give MUCH better spatialisation than a bunch of small drivers. It will also provide better audio quality when you are not using spatialisation (e.g. music listening).Multi-driver headphones are a dirty hack for when a 5.1 output is the only thing you have to work with.
Samus - Friday, August 28, 2015 - link
Aureal A3D really had audio positioning down to a science. It was pretty convincing how it tricked the headphone wearer into positioning objects in space.raschmidt - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
I really hope they fixed the interference issue from the G930.....it's practically unusable in an office environment or if you're living in an apartment. Sometimes mine would be cutting out ever 30-60 seconds for a few seconds at a time.PaulMack - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
Indeed - I'm still struggling on with the G930, but I'm very reluctant to buy another Logitech headset as a result. The wireless freedom is nice for long conference calls (I'm a home worker), but the amount of times I've missed a question directed at myself, or some other important point pretty much outweights it.lesbaer45 - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
What's really sad is I have a Logitech H820E dual headset for work. Uses the DECT standard. I can roam all over the house and office with this thing, sometimes to stupid distances without dropping a word. It's been very reliable despite two years of abuse.Why they won't move all wireless headsets to DECT I have no idea.
LordanSS - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
I owned a 5.1 multi-speaker headset years ago, and I can tell that the difference between that and my current G930's spatialization/positioning is pretty much non-existant.What I can tell you is that the overall sound quality on the G930 is better, mostly because of the drivers. While my old 5.1 multi-speaker had several "tiny" drivers in different positions, the G930's single driver gives a better response on a wider spectrum of the frequencies. And better bass too, for the explosions.
Granted, these are "gaming" oriented headsets, as for pure music listening a Sennheiser would most certainly be superior. I know of some models from other companies that use even bigger drivers (50mm or so), also with spatial virtualization. I've never had the chance to try one, but wonder if there would be big differences.
The_Assimilator - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
Why is there always, still, such a massive price premium for wireless models compared to wired? It irks me no end, especially when Logitech decides to include blingy LEDs as well. The damn headphones are gonna sit on my head, WHERE I CAN'T SEE THEM, why in the name of all that is holy would I want LEDs on them?Is this what the "high-end" PC market has devolved into - products that are designed for the same type of people who put LEDs on the undersides of their cars?
tungt88 - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
I call this the "bling" segment of the market -- lots of flash, very little substance. If you want genuinely good "gaming" headsets, and you (for whatever reason) do not want to go the ModMic/separate mic + your pick of quality headphones route, then I suggest the gaming entries from Sennheiser (PC 350/360/G4ME) Beyerdynamic (MMX 300), or Audio-Technica (ATH-ADG1 or AG-1). Also, the Skullcandy SLYR gaming line isn't too shabby if you're on a budget (feel funny recommending Skullcandy, but that particular line is actually pretty decent for the price).eek2121 - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link
I have to disagree. The G930 was an excellent headset, despite it's flaws (constant disconnect/reconnects). I'm sure this headset will be great as well, but i just can't see myself buying another logitech headset unless they move to the 5 ghz band or improve the disconnect/reconnect issue.Talvien - Friday, August 28, 2015 - link
Thats why I'll switch from wireless G930 to wired G633. Also got some horrible sounds on my G930 while playing slightly bassy gamesound or music.stangflyer - Sunday, August 30, 2015 - link
I do agree here. I have had my MMX 300's for about 2 years and they are very good. Mic is great also. Expensive but worth it to me.