But Samsung is the better choice compare to Xiaomi Note, in my opinion and I don't think Xiaomi Note will stand a chance to some of the really good phones that are already available (like http://www.consumerrunner.com/top-10-best-phones/ for example...)
It's the big one :) Chinese phone makers are calling their big phones ( 5.5 or larger ) "Note" while their others aren't really called anything, you'll have plain "Mi4"
You guys need to say if a phone is a US model up front. I'd rather not waste my time reading a review of something that's only available in Asia/Europe.
I agree but for the exact opposite reason. But on the bright side the non-availability of subsidised US versions means that we we non-US readers don't have to have to look up the unsubsidised prices elsewhere to actually get a feel for the real price...
I've no idea what you're trying to say. I applaud every attempt at providing comparable data: When AT reviews a laptop they'll tell you the MSRP (and street price), when they look at a phone they'll typically tell you some bullshit subsidised price which has only a meaning in the US and nowhere else in the world (and also only if you're actually looking to buying the device on contract).
I really wish they'd stop doing that. Because of stuff like that, I'm sure most people don't realize their phones are worth more than a few hundred dollars.
Instead of being ass, you could just look up the available bands on a site like gsmarena. Not every product reviewed on Anandtech is going to be applicable to you. In this case, the phone does not support LTE on any US carriers but should support HSPA+ on ATT and T-Mobile.
I agree. They very rarely review anything that isn't for consumption in the US. I would also rather not waste my time reading about something that isn't available. Yes, it's a waste. There isn't anything here that's ground breaking tech wise, so nothing to "learn". It's just a matter of how they put the package together. if isn't nothing I can use, why would I care?
Xiamomi is about to start trials with some products in the Us and other countries. You could end up having acces to this phone or its successor before long...
Or do like the people who bought those korean screens early on and import.
I live in Europe and most of the products reviewed here are not directly avaiable to me, even less at the same relative price, 1€=1$ over here, but I still like to read about new product tendencies, at the minimun it lets me evaluate the products I can get in another light.
How are phones any ground breaking nowadays? There have been 0 phones in the past few years that are groundbreaking, with maybe the exception of the S6 Edge with the curved screen. And if it's fair to whine about something you can't use, then 1) Verizon/Sprint customers will be whining more than 50% of the time here, and 2) Who said you can't use it? Does the lack of LTE make it unusable? BS.
You don't have to care but I very very much do. Not all of their products are only applicable to the US, some of them apply to other countries as well.
Also, you can buy a Xiaomi phone from the US. Much like I can buy US phones from here. The iPhone 6+ I'm using to type this comes directly from the US (a T-Mobile to be exact). Just because Xiaomi doesn't sell it directly doesn't mean you can't buy it.
That's the worst thing one could ever do really. You should buy a product that has proper support in your country. Good luck finding parts or repairing the device. And good luck if you get a lemon.
Actually I bought an LG Optimus G made for Korea ( F180L ) which I've flashed with the ROM for E975 but keeping the modem part of the F180L .... I have all the 2G and 3G bands working perfectly here in the EU and the phone has been doign well for 2 years now.
It is true that it's a risk you're going to make when buying without a local warranty but the seller might still honor your warranty if you send it back. Also yes you need to carefull look at the supported bands but some might just work out fine and be what you need in your country too.
Xiaomi does make phones which have all the right bands for the EU ( including LTE ) so I'm OK with reading reviews about Xiaomi phones such as this.... this isn't a US only website you know. Maybe folks from China read it too for instance ... Also many Xiaomi phones are available in India where they speak EN so ...
You just don't get it. No-one said they shouldn't review non-US phones. Just put a blurb in the beginning saying it doesn't support US bands. Why is that one simple thing so hard for people to comprehend?
>I'd rather not waste my time reading a review of something that's only available in Asia/Europe.
Why not? I'm a tech head, I'm happy to read reviews of droids only available on Verizon even though I'm in Europe because its great to see what competition ithere is.
Anandtech is an International website with only 40% of the readership coming from USA and Xiaomi already caters to the largest smartphones markets that is China, India, Brazil, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia and Philippines. So, your redneck 'Murican pride is misplaced here.
This is getting blown out of proportion! all he asked for is an indication as to whether this is available in the US. It's 1 line from AnandTech, is useful to know, and could save some readers from reading a review they're not interested in.
Such lines should be better placed in Verision only etc Droids which the International readers which make up the majority of this website have to endure, not to forget the totally illogical pricing like 199, 299 etc. Loads of 'Muricans hurt here to see something they can't get in the gimme gimme culture. Learn to Deal with it just like the International readers do for most USA only products and pricing.
You're not the only one, but you're the only one that's anal about it. Most people read it for knowledge and info, then if they're interested, go find out if it works for them, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FOR EACH COUNTRY AND EACH NETWORK. Geez, do you have to be spoon fed?
Ever heard of international models? Some might not support LTE in the U.S. but most support HSPA which is plenty fast to me. As for availability, check Newegg. I'm sure they have it. Also BH Photo where I usually got my electronic devices and camera stuff. BH has the best customer service in the country, competitive price and no tax :-)
I read all AT articles/reviews doesn't mean I might purchase the product written about. Reading about other products I will never buy give me better comparisons/perspectives on the ones I want to buy. Reading is entertaining and knowledgable, not waste of time like you said.
Kinda sad that Americans always try to seize every English written webpage as their own. But also speaks volume of their ignorance. Well, You didn't invented the language, You're not the only country that speaks it. Get on with it, yankee. Those Chinese phones are actually starting to appear in Europe, outperform Western competition for half the price. New Nexus 5 may endup as a failure. A day will come when You will have only Apple to choose from in Rednecktown, TX, USA.
It's not that we claim every page as our own, but this is an American based site. How many other phones have you seen reviewed that weren't based around the US? Have you seen many reviews quoting other currencies? Have you seen any other tech that has been reviewed that is only for other countries?
Here's a hint, the answer's: 0, no, no.
A lot of the tech details from articles are correct no matter where you live, which is cool, but if the reviews and recommendations are based on USD, who do you think the reviews are for?
The real question is why is AT changing what they review, and who their audience is for.
Maybe now that they are owned by a different company their marketing department is branching out and trying for revenue from other countries now.
It is kind of logical for Anandtech to support and review International products when the USA audience for this website is at 40% which is less than half of the total readership, I know it is tough for the redneck 'Muricans to swallow this but facts are facts.
Weather it makes sense or not isn't the point. The point is that AT has been a US based review site. If they are going to start changing that policy, then it is reasonable and realistic for readers who are reading it for purchase decisions to be informed at the start of the review that AT is reviewing something out of the ordinary.
Now, I can tell how much it has bothered you that AT has been, and as far as I can tell is still mostly US focused.
Perhaps you should seek therapy to help you deal with your feelings of jealousy and inadequacy. Just a thought.
that doesn't make sense at all. AT goes to tons of international trade shows that show products that will not even be in the US. Should they not report on those products at all then? Granted it's not a review, but the logic is still the same.
Only an idiot will say that facts don't matter, the point that most of Anandtech readership is International is a fact and there is no denying it and it is only logical that they will cover even more International products in the future to the utter chagrin of Redneck, bigoted 'Muricans. Also, LOL at being jealous of redneck 'Muricans, guys like you humour me :)
I checked the "About Anandtech" page, nothing there remotely even says that it only focus on US-based things. If anything it didn't single out any country. If you have the impression that it's US-based then it was your mistake as its not part of their goal.
A bitter, bigoted and uninformative rant that projects all your prejudices onto Americans.
You seem to think "westerners" give a toss about what's selling in Europe or anywhere else. Most people just want to know what they can buy for themselves. That doesn't mean they're bad people.
I have to admit I'm surprised by some of the comments here, but at the end of the day it's good feedback to have.=)
We went into phones with an international mindset from the start. It's why we have mobile editors like Andrei located outside of North America. The good news is that most phones are available worldwide, but we're also not going to hesitate to review phones that don't get an NA release. Someone can still put out a good product and not formally release it in NA, and that certainly is worth a look.
In any case I do appreciate the feedback. We'll work on finding a way to make it clearer what regions a phone is available in for future articles.
Sorry about the late arrival... but perhaps someone could create a region primer article/chart that could then be linked in each phone review? Doesn't really matter to me, since anything international means "Not on Verizon." I do still like reading about new phones though... I've been thinking about branching out from Verizon for a secondary, work related phone.
i happy that your looking at giving more detail key parts are is it USA (maybe even Verizon's CDMA network phones are rarer outside the USA), EU or HK/China/Asia phones
as most HK/China/Asia phones Lack band 20 on 4G and lack 3g900 so are useless on vodafone and O2 in the UK and for 4G most parts of the EU and the USA , where as USA phones norm lack 4G compatibility at all in the EU due to odd bands used (i assume by mobile operators to make sure you can only buy a USA phone) please also list supported 3g/4G bands and their frequencies, in the EU its needs to support Band 20 (800), 3 (1800), band 7 (2600)
in the USA unknown to me (uk me) as seems to be a miss match of bands that are used and thats just for AT&T and T-mobile (for CDMA phone i probably would only buy a subsidized phone if i was on Verizon)
but 4G is a mess (something like 20-30+ 4g bands) compared to 3G and 4G as most EU phones support most networks in the world (quadband phones) even AT&T or t-mobile real 3G network (not fake 4g dc-hspa+ which is 3G)
Ah, my bad. I was supposed to those data points out and leave them for the its own review. We're doing some analysis on the OPT results and will update in time.
They might as well redo the OnePlus One display measurements, because cyanogen has removed François Simond's excellent calibration with an update long ago. It has a very bluish white point now.
Actually, XiaoMi has been VERY good with updates. They update biweekly IIRC. Since MIUI is a complete overhaul of Android (even more than TouchWiz), they can't jump to the latest version of Android as quickly. They also support MIUI on a variety of phones other than their own, and that takes some of their efforts.
Thanks for the review Josh, will like to see you review other Xiaomi phones which are incredible value for money like Redmi 2 ($90) and Mi 4 ( $220). These phones are available officially at almost similar pricing in the largest smartphones markets that is China, India, Brazil, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia and Philippines.
Thanks for a detailed review. I have the Note for 6 months now and use it on Tmobile in the US (no LTE) and Vodafone in Italy. It works very well. The review mirrors my experience down to the slippery and now cracked glass back. The advice on a cover came too late. My biggest challenge has not been the battery, the good camera, the video playback, or the google play services. It has been trying to get the change to the Mi Account for the auto sign in. It wants to use my now defunct Italian number and not the new number. It constantly tries to sign in. I have changed the browser based credentials for Mi Account but it cannot be accessed from the mobile. Claims by Xiaomi that they will get back to me within 3 days based on a "lost password" on the device results in nothing. It still works but is constantly trying to signin. This speaks to tech support away from the mothership. Thanks for this review and the constructive comments.
I have a slight beef here regarding fast charge support. I own the Mi Note (non-Pro) and its charging time is more or less in line with what is shown in this review. But as for it not supporting fast charging, my Mi Note came bundled with the MDY-03-EB charger which is rated for 5V/2A as well as 9V/1.2A. According to the Qualcomm website on Quick Charge, both the charger and the Mi Note is certified for Quick Charge 2.0. given that it "just" supports 9V/1.2A, I think it doesn't charge that fast, but that doesn't mean it doesn't support QC, unless of course Qualcomm is lying to us.
It seems the hardware is definitely there for the support, but they may have disabled it as a way to differentiate between it and the Pro. Kind of an odd thing to do, but oh well.
The best selling Android phones have always been those that look and feels like an iPhone except cheaper and with dual-SIM and SD card. It is no wonder the Biggest and 2nd biggest Android OEMs releases phones that's basically iPhone 6.5
As for Mi Note. I like it but feel $470 is getting too expensive for a phone that's not spectacular. $400 for the Pro model would be more app.
How do you guys get the close ups of the screens like that? I want to try that with my phone. I've always thought that was so cool. It was one of the reasons I stayed around with you guys since the launch of the Note 2. I like the thorough way you do the phone reviews and the close up on screens to check for changes to sub-pixel placement and changes from year to year of the same line. So cool.
This review leaved out a very important area: call quality and data support. I am not keen on LTE. I am fine as long as I can use 3G on my Rogers network.
Another Chinese government supported company. It would be nice if web sites reviewing these devices from Chinese companies did a bit of research as why their prices are where they are
WTF is wrong with you people? Is capitalist better than communist? How about Saudi Arabia - our "ally"? Stop mixing politic and nationality with tech. FYI more than 80% of products in the U.S. are made in China that included the beloved iPhone. Oh iPhone which costs ~$210 to make but priced at $650. How's that capitalism for you? So please keep the politic bs and racial comments at CNN, Fox or whatever fake news site you like. This is a tech site for God's sake.
I'm not a big fan of the a Chinese government and some of their internet policies.......but so what? It's a review of a product not some geopolitical analysis.
Also while it's nowhere near the same level, the US government DO give subsidies companies (though tech industry isn't one of them). All goventments gives out subsidies to one degree or another.
Also, where do you think a lot of tech companies manufacturer their products? Those savings from the cheap labor, where do the profits goes? Back to US tech companies.
I don't see what's up with all the whining, these devices are not sold in Europe by retailers and distributors or by operators. Through their sales in China it's one of the big five brands though. Nobody whines when it comes to Oppo or OnePlus reviews.
'for those who don't spend their whole lives reading about this'--LOL
another good review, thanks. impressive phone...bit worried about where my data gets stored (Chinese Clouds are polluted with government eyes), no microSD, and thankfully this doesn't have NFC or Qi so I'm less tempted to purchase, but wow does that have a refined look or what...
Mi cloud is opt-in and Xiaomi has migrated its Mi cloud servers to Singapore and India for the International customers and it is handled by Amazon Web Services, here is the link to AWS itself talking about Mi cloud: https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/xiao...
I'm pretty sure they have removed the option to sync app data to MI Cloud any how. No need to sync contacts, calendar or photos to the Mi Cloud if you don't want to either.
AT nice to see a review of a xiaomi phone, with the usual in depth perspective. You do have a lot of readers here in India, and we are glad you covered for the region. I don't understand the north American contempt for anything Chinese, especially since everything they use is made in China. Xiaomi is a good brand so far, as Joshua pointed out having the attention to detail that is lacking in Android world. I think you could have covered the audio bit more in detail as note pro shines in that department.
Most of it was not contempt for anything Chinese. Most of the complaining is simply because you have read thru lots of pages of details and reviews before you find out that this phone will not work with any carrier in the USA. That is the problem. Somebody asked for them to put a sentence in saying this at the beginning and then the comments fill up with arrogant Europeans screaming about "muricans" and their entitlement attitude. This is, and always was an American website. So if they start reviewing things that won't work in America, it's pretty simple to just say that at the beginning so that people don't waste their time reading about something that they can't use.
They can also do the same if they review something for America that won't work in Europe or Asia so that people from those areas don't have to waste their time if they don't want to.
FYI my Note works in the USA and Canada with my US T-Mobile account. No LTE but HSPA and 3G. The same speeds that I got in Italy where it was purchased. The Bands in the Note is missing for LTE at least in the version I have. I think 1700. Also the slowness to update from Kitkat is a limitation. Overall a great phone and well priced.
Android 4.4 KitKat? Really? I wouldn't even consider the Note because of this. I have the Honor 6 and it's taking ages for them to bring their first OS update ever to the phone: apparently we got Lollipop late this month, around the time Marshmallow comes out! Definitely the last phone I buy from Huawei.
don't worry. They re updating the firmware fast. you can choose nightly every week update. I have oneplus that came with Lollipop CM12s still has the 3 stagefreight bugs, Xiaomi miui patched them fast with kitkat firmware. The Lollipop Cm12s Oneplus is killing batteries faster than Kitkat Cm11s
Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus reviews are everywhere. I've checked them out and they are super fast, I've never used an Android device that smooth and fast before. I definitely think those are the phones to beat in 2015. However I don't want them because like the iPhone 6 they are due to get refreshed next year when Samsung can finally figure out how to get microSD working. I can do without battery swap but I need ext storage.
I doubt Samsung will bring back MicroSD storage. They're targeting the high end premium market with those phones and they rather charge you extra money for extra internal storage like Apple does.
Tell you someting you don't know: In permissions management system, It will automatically scan all your files background and "tell" you how much crash you need to clean.And XiaoMi UI will give you ads push everyweek,you can't find anyplace to turn it off. The last thing is google it: "XiaoMi backdoor".
Yes. An important reason for the unexpected success of the company Xiaomi were designed both hardware and firmware that runs on the open source software of Android. Xiaomi MIUI interface of speed and design equivalent to the operating system of the iPhone or the Samsung's high-end products but with only half the price. Most Android phone vendors are dependent on similar designs by the third party manufacturers like Foxconn provide.
Xiaomi phones are not optimized for the US. I bought the Redmi Note 2 and when I got it found it would only do 2G in the US no matter the carrier. For every model number there are numerous sub versions of the same model number for different Countries and for the most part the vendors don't tell you which one they are selling. Mine (from Gearbest) was the China version even though it was stated "worldwide". Doesn't have the right bands or the right bands activated for US use.
Did you even research the product you wanted before getting it? Did take time to check what bands were supported for the product? Did you have knowledge that not all out of state phones might not work within the US? Lastly did you research to see what data speed your carrier provided for the product you were planning to buy? I'm using a Mi Note Pro right now and have no complaints about my data speed since I know for sure at best right now its HSPA+ on T-Mobile or ATT, currently on the GoSmart mobile prepaid network available in NYC. Like someone mentioned earlier majority of our products sold in the US is produced from China for cheap labor and production cost. The design of a certain product can be from US but was not produced in US but from another country mainly China hence the term "Made in China". Leather goods from India or Italy. Surely US is not at a point where it's just stealing credit for the manual labor? I mean Apple has already been stealing credit for where it should be given.
After reading this review I decieded to buy an Xiaomi Note Pro for 500€ including all shipping costs and taxes. Today I own an Xiaomi Note Pro for over seven months now and while using it daily, I can assure you the following :
1. Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 has different versions (check here http://www.anandtech.com/show/9388/comparing-snapd... Xiaomi Note Pro has one of the best version (v.2.1), if not the best version. Therefore the main overheating issue does not exist. From my real-world testing, I assure you that it's not getting warm at 30 degree Celsius room temperature when doing basic tasks (messaging, calls, browsing and so on). When playing taxing games, it will get warm (not hot!) at 30 degree Celsius room temperature. When watching movies for many hours with hardware-acceleration (mandatory in my opinion) your phone will get warm (not hot!). So basically if your room-temperature is about 20 degree Celsius your phone will not even get warm. Were is the overheating issue? If you are gaming 24/7h on max brightness without hardware-acceleration, you might experience throttling. All other scenarios have 0 overheating issues. In my opinion Xiaomi Note Pro is not optimal for heavy daily gaming.
2. Camera It's okay for most people, but nothing special. Shooting is very quick. Like SNAP (1sec) and picture is taken :). It's true that the low-light performance is not good, but which phone has good low-light performance? Oh, yea you are right, flaghship phones which STARTS at 500-700$.
3. Storage Non-expandable storage is not always to be seen negatively. Xiaomi Note Pro is 6.9mm thick and it was released at a date were micro-SD slot was not implemented on flagship phones for various reasons. And still to-date there is only a handful phones e.g. Samsung Galaxy S7 which incorporate flagship design with an micro-SD card slot. For the vast majority of users 64GB is more than enough. And those who want more, shouldn't buy this phone.
4. Battery Life You cannot call battery life: subpar. Why not? This phone is only 6.9mm thick (!!!) and comes with an 1440p display (!!!). And they were able to implement an 3000mah battery, which is huge. But it's also true that it's powerdraw ratio is not that good. Battery lasts about one whole day for most tasks including watching videos (hardware accelerated). You can drastically optimize your battery life with xposed modules e.g. amplifiy, greenify and so on. If you want even more battery life, you can buy Xiaomi Note (non-pro) edition. If you want to do heavy gaming over multiple hours, you shouldn't buy this phone. Games, especially not hardware-accelerated on max brightness will drain your battery fairly quickly. If the battery capacity would be about 2000mah, I would call that sub-par, not 3000mah. Do not forget that this phone is supporting Quick Charge 2.0, your charging time is not that long compared to other phones.
5. Gaming in general If you are like me and play games on your phone occasionally on the way to work or school or whatever, your battery life will be fine. But if you are sitting down on breaks or e.g. in a park with super nice sunlight playing 3-5 hours at max. brightness your favorite JRPG, your battery won't last a whole day. If you are me, you would solve this issue by connecting an sleek powerbank from Xiaomi :)
If you have any questions, feel freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to ask meeeeeeeeeee.
I would like to end this write-up with the following:
Xiaomi Mi Note Pro is the best 1440p 5.7" smartphone in the world. Only Galaxy Note 5 can compete. (summer 2016)
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HanakoIkezawa - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Is the note 5 review anytime soon?ddriver - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
What does the Mi note have to do with a "note"? Does it have a stylus? Or maybe with some other way of taking notes? What makes it a "note"?lilmoe - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
It's basically an attempt at trolling Samsung really....LoganPowell - Friday, November 27, 2015 - link
But Samsung is the better choice compare to Xiaomi Note, in my opinion and I don't think Xiaomi Note will stand a chance to some of the really good phones that are already available (like http://www.consumerrunner.com/top-10-best-phones/ for example...)mforce - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
It's the big one :) Chinese phone makers are calling their big phones ( 5.5 or larger ) "Note" while their others aren't really called anything, you'll have plain "Mi4"HanakoIkezawa - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
They get to piggyback off of samsungs marketing, it's pretty standard fair for Chinese manufacturers.name99 - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
It's REALLY hard to feel sorry for anyone piggybacking off Samsung's marketing...snarfbot - Thursday, September 17, 2015 - link
fareJoshHo - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
It's next.As a sneak peek, if you check some of the still image performance galleries... :)
SAAA - Monday, March 28, 2016 - link
WE HAVE XIAOMI Mi 5 HITTING THE MARKET ON APRIL 6. LOOK OUT DETAILS<a href="http://http://www.upcomingmobile.com/2016/03/giaonee-mi-5... style="color: #b01a38; font-size: 11px;" target="_blank">XIAOMI Mi 5 spec</a>
DigitalFreak - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
You guys need to say if a phone is a US model up front. I'd rather not waste my time reading a review of something that's only available in Asia/Europe.Daniel Egger - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
I agree but for the exact opposite reason. But on the bright side the non-availability of subsidised US versions means that we we non-US readers don't have to have to look up the unsubsidised prices elsewhere to actually get a feel for the real price...Jimbo - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Yet your eventual cost for the very same hardware is always more, so how is that a "bright side" again?Daniel Egger - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
I've no idea what you're trying to say. I applaud every attempt at providing comparable data: When AT reviews a laptop they'll tell you the MSRP (and street price), when they look at a phone they'll typically tell you some bullshit subsidised price which has only a meaning in the US and nowhere else in the world (and also only if you're actually looking to buying the device on contract).mkozakewich - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
I really wish they'd stop doing that. Because of stuff like that, I'm sure most people don't realize their phones are worth more than a few hundred dollars.duploxxx - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
order this phone through web so available everywhere. reading something on technology is wasting time? time for you to stay in the apple store......DigitalFreak - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
I'm the furthest thing from an Apple fan you'll find, moron. I'm not interested in buying a phone that most likely won't work on many of the US bands.You, on the other hand, should spend less time reading about technology and focus on learning the basics of the English language.
jordanclock - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Instead of being ass, you could just look up the available bands on a site like gsmarena. Not every product reviewed on Anandtech is going to be applicable to you. In this case, the phone does not support LTE on any US carriers but should support HSPA+ on ATT and T-Mobile.DigitalFreak - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
As a service to their readers, all AT needs to do is add one sentence. As for the rest, when someone attacks me they get it right back.Have a wonderful day.
Vorl - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
I agree. They very rarely review anything that isn't for consumption in the US. I would also rather not waste my time reading about something that isn't available. Yes, it's a waste. There isn't anything here that's ground breaking tech wise, so nothing to "learn". It's just a matter of how they put the package together. if isn't nothing I can use, why would I care?valinor89 - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Xiamomi is about to start trials with some products in the Us and other countries. You could end up having acces to this phone or its successor before long...Or do like the people who bought those korean screens early on and import.
I live in Europe and most of the products reviewed here are not directly avaiable to me, even less at the same relative price, 1€=1$ over here, but I still like to read about new product tendencies, at the minimun it lets me evaluate the products I can get in another light.
menting - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
How are phones any ground breaking nowadays? There have been 0 phones in the past few years that are groundbreaking, with maybe the exception of the S6 Edge with the curved screen. And if it's fair to whine about something you can't use, then 1) Verizon/Sprint customers will be whining more than 50% of the time here, and 2) Who said you can't use it? Does the lack of LTE make it unusable? BS.Yaru - Sunday, October 4, 2015 - link
You don't have to care but I very very much do. Not all of their products are only applicable to the US, some of them apply to other countries as well.Also, you can buy a Xiaomi phone from the US. Much like I can buy US phones from here. The iPhone 6+ I'm using to type this comes directly from the US (a T-Mobile to be exact). Just because Xiaomi doesn't sell it directly doesn't mean you can't buy it.
lilmoe - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
That's the worst thing one could ever do really. You should buy a product that has proper support in your country. Good luck finding parts or repairing the device. And good luck if you get a lemon.mforce - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Actually I bought an LG Optimus G made for Korea ( F180L ) which I've flashed with the ROM for E975 but keeping the modem part of the F180L .... I have all the 2G and 3G bands working perfectly here in the EU and the phone has been doign well for 2 years now.It is true that it's a risk you're going to make when buying without a local warranty but the seller might still honor your warranty if you send it back. Also yes you need to carefull look at the supported bands but some might just work out fine and be what you need in your country too.
Xiaomi does make phones which have all the right bands for the EU ( including LTE ) so I'm OK with reading reviews about Xiaomi phones such as this.... this isn't a US only website you know. Maybe folks from China read it too for instance ... Also many Xiaomi phones are available in India where they speak EN so ...
DigitalFreak - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
You just don't get it. No-one said they shouldn't review non-US phones. Just put a blurb in the beginning saying it doesn't support US bands. Why is that one simple thing so hard for people to comprehend?Pissedoffyouth - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
>I'd rather not waste my time reading a review of something that's only available in Asia/Europe.Why not? I'm a tech head, I'm happy to read reviews of droids only available on Verizon even though I'm in Europe because its great to see what competition ithere is.
menting - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
talk about being self-centered! So they'll have to say if it's going to be on Sprint and/or Verizon too I suppose?DigitalFreak - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Yeah, because I'm the only person who reads through a review only to find out they won't be able to use the device.BMNify - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Anandtech is an International website with only 40% of the readership coming from USA and Xiaomi already caters to the largest smartphones markets that is China, India, Brazil, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia and Philippines. So, your redneck 'Murican pride is misplaced here.maximumGPU - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
This is getting blown out of proportion! all he asked for is an indication as to whether this is available in the US. It's 1 line from AnandTech, is useful to know, and could save some readers from reading a review they're not interested in.BMNify - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Such lines should be better placed in Verision only etc Droids which the International readers which make up the majority of this website have to endure, not to forget the totally illogical pricing like 199, 299 etc. Loads of 'Muricans hurt here to see something they can't get in the gimme gimme culture. Learn to Deal with it just like the International readers do for most USA only products and pricing.tim851 - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
Dude, you should really see a shrink about your issues!Yaru - Sunday, October 4, 2015 - link
Exactly, not everything is US based especially on the Internet which is border less by nature.Notmyusualid - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Like it!menting - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
You're not the only one, but you're the only one that's anal about it. Most people read it for knowledge and info, then if they're interested, go find out if it works for them, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FOR EACH COUNTRY AND EACH NETWORK.Geez, do you have to be spoon fed?
sonny73n - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
@DigitalFreakEver heard of international models? Some might not support LTE in the U.S. but most support HSPA which is plenty fast to me. As for availability, check Newegg. I'm sure they have it. Also BH Photo where I usually got my electronic devices and camera stuff. BH has the best customer service in the country, competitive price and no tax :-)
I read all AT articles/reviews doesn't mean I might purchase the product written about. Reading about other products I will never buy give me better comparisons/perspectives on the ones I want to buy. Reading is entertaining and knowledgable, not waste of time like you said.
Thanks Anandtech for this review.
LeonMoreno - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Kinda sad that Americans always try to seize every English written webpage as their own. But also speaks volume of their ignorance. Well, You didn't invented the language, You're not the only country that speaks it. Get on with it, yankee. Those Chinese phones are actually starting to appear in Europe, outperform Western competition for half the price. New Nexus 5 may endup as a failure. A day will come when You will have only Apple to choose from in Rednecktown, TX, USA.Vorl - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
It's not that we claim every page as our own, but this is an American based site. How many other phones have you seen reviewed that weren't based around the US? Have you seen many reviews quoting other currencies? Have you seen any other tech that has been reviewed that is only for other countries?Here's a hint, the answer's: 0, no, no.
A lot of the tech details from articles are correct no matter where you live, which is cool, but if the reviews and recommendations are based on USD, who do you think the reviews are for?
The real question is why is AT changing what they review, and who their audience is for.
Maybe now that they are owned by a different company their marketing department is branching out and trying for revenue from other countries now.
BMNify - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
It is kind of logical for Anandtech to support and review International products when the USA audience for this website is at 40% which is less than half of the total readership, I know it is tough for the redneck 'Muricans to swallow this but facts are facts.Vorl - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Weather it makes sense or not isn't the point. The point is that AT has been a US based review site. If they are going to start changing that policy, then it is reasonable and realistic for readers who are reading it for purchase decisions to be informed at the start of the review that AT is reviewing something out of the ordinary.Now, I can tell how much it has bothered you that AT has been, and as far as I can tell is still mostly US focused.
Perhaps you should seek therapy to help you deal with your feelings of jealousy and inadequacy. Just a thought.
menting - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
that doesn't make sense at all. AT goes to tons of international trade shows that show products that will not even be in the US. Should they not report on those products at all then? Granted it's not a review, but the logic is still the same.BMNify - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Only an idiot will say that facts don't matter, the point that most of Anandtech readership is International is a fact and there is no denying it and it is only logical that they will cover even more International products in the future to the utter chagrin of Redneck, bigoted 'Muricans. Also, LOL at being jealous of redneck 'Muricans, guys like you humour me :)garbagedisposal - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
You're an idiot. fact.Yaru - Sunday, October 4, 2015 - link
I checked the "About Anandtech" page, nothing there remotely even says that it only focus on US-based things. If anything it didn't single out any country. If you have the impression that it's US-based then it was your mistake as its not part of their goal.prisonerX - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
A bitter, bigoted and uninformative rant that projects all your prejudices onto Americans.You seem to think "westerners" give a toss about what's selling in Europe or anywhere else. Most people just want to know what they can buy for themselves. That doesn't mean they're bad people.
Notmyusualid - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Ridiculous.You can even order your kitchen online from China, why not your phone too?
So we shouldn't hear about cool products anymore, because some people reading this would have to import it? I disagree.
geo2160 - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
You know you can import it, right? I live in Europe and most Xiaomi phones I've seen were ordered online from China.Yaru - Sunday, October 4, 2015 - link
EXACTLY, you can buy phones using this magical thing called the Internet. From worldwide!!!Ryan Smith - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
I have to admit I'm surprised by some of the comments here, but at the end of the day it's good feedback to have.=)We went into phones with an international mindset from the start. It's why we have mobile editors like Andrei located outside of North America. The good news is that most phones are available worldwide, but we're also not going to hesitate to review phones that don't get an NA release. Someone can still put out a good product and not formally release it in NA, and that certainly is worth a look.
In any case I do appreciate the feedback. We'll work on finding a way to make it clearer what regions a phone is available in for future articles.
CrazyBernie - Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - link
Sorry about the late arrival... but perhaps someone could create a region primer article/chart that could then be linked in each phone review? Doesn't really matter to me, since anything international means "Not on Verizon." I do still like reading about new phones though... I've been thinking about branching out from Verizon for a secondary, work related phone.leexgx - Friday, September 25, 2015 - link
i happy that your looking at giving more detailkey parts are is it USA (maybe even Verizon's CDMA network phones are rarer outside the USA), EU or HK/China/Asia phones
as most HK/China/Asia phones Lack band 20 on 4G and lack 3g900 so are useless on vodafone and O2 in the UK and for 4G most parts of the EU and the USA , where as USA phones norm lack 4G compatibility at all in the EU due to odd bands used (i assume by mobile operators to make sure you can only buy a USA phone)
please also list supported 3g/4G bands and their frequencies, in the EU its needs to support Band 20 (800), 3 (1800), band 7 (2600)
in the USA unknown to me (uk me) as seems to be a miss match of bands that are used and thats just for AT&T and T-mobile (for CDMA phone i probably would only buy a subsidized phone if i was on Verizon)
but 4G is a mess (something like 20-30+ 4g bands) compared to 3G and 4G as most EU phones support most networks in the world (quadband phones) even AT&T or t-mobile real 3G network (not fake 4g dc-hspa+ which is 3G)
Archipelago - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
You think the only people who read Anandtech are in the U.S.?user_5447 - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Wow, OnePlus Two display results look really bad. Plus battery life regressions (S810?).Full review coming soon?
Ian Cutress - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Ah, my bad. I was supposed to those data points out and leave them for the its own review. We're doing some analysis on the OPT results and will update in time.darkchazz - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
They might as well redo the OnePlus One display measurements, because cyanogen has removed François Simond's excellent calibration with an update long ago.It has a very bluish white point now.
smartthanyou - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Android 4.4 and 5.0? I think that says all that needs to be said about updates and support.anonymousmonkey54 - Saturday, November 14, 2015 - link
Actually, XiaoMi has been VERY good with updates. They update biweekly IIRC. Since MIUI is a complete overhaul of Android (even more than TouchWiz), they can't jump to the latest version of Android as quickly. They also support MIUI on a variety of phones other than their own, and that takes some of their efforts.i4mt3hwin - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Hmm, one plus two on all the chartsBMNify - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Thanks for the review Josh, will like to see you review other Xiaomi phones which are incredible value for money like Redmi 2 ($90) and Mi 4 ( $220). These phones are available officially at almost similar pricing in the largest smartphones markets that is China, India, Brazil, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia and Philippines.hans_ober - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Still no update on the MotoG 2015 charge time using a powerful charger... seriously?wliles3 - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Please Review The Note 5 And Edge Plus.AussieinUS - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Thanks for a detailed review. I have the Note for 6 months now and use it on Tmobile in the US (no LTE) and Vodafone in Italy. It works very well. The review mirrors my experience down to the slippery and now cracked glass back. The advice on a cover came too late. My biggest challenge has not been the battery, the good camera, the video playback, or the google play services. It has been trying to get the change to the Mi Account for the auto sign in. It wants to use my now defunct Italian number and not the new number. It constantly tries to sign in. I have changed the browser based credentials for Mi Account but it cannot be accessed from the mobile. Claims by Xiaomi that they will get back to me within 3 days based on a "lost password" on the device results in nothing. It still works but is constantly trying to signin. This speaks to tech support away from the mothership. Thanks for this review and the constructive comments.eriri-el - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
I have a slight beef here regarding fast charge support. I own the Mi Note (non-Pro) and its charging time is more or less in line with what is shown in this review. But as for it not supporting fast charging, my Mi Note came bundled with the MDY-03-EB charger which is rated for 5V/2A as well as 9V/1.2A. According to the Qualcomm website on Quick Charge, both the charger and the Mi Note is certified for Quick Charge 2.0. given that it "just" supports 9V/1.2A, I think it doesn't charge that fast, but that doesn't mean it doesn't support QC, unless of course Qualcomm is lying to us.eriri-el - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Reference: https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-de...Xiaomi is at the bottom of the list in the pdf file
extide - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
It seems the hardware is definitely there for the support, but they may have disabled it as a way to differentiate between it and the Pro. Kind of an odd thing to do, but oh well.Peichen - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
The best selling Android phones have always been those that look and feels like an iPhone except cheaper and with dual-SIM and SD card. It is no wonder the Biggest and 2nd biggest Android OEMs releases phones that's basically iPhone 6.5As for Mi Note. I like it but feel $470 is getting too expensive for a phone that's not spectacular. $400 for the Pro model would be more app.
babadivad - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
How do you guys get the close ups of the screens like that? I want to try that with my phone. I've always thought that was so cool. It was one of the reasons I stayed around with you guys since the launch of the Note 2. I like the thorough way you do the phone reviews and the close up on screens to check for changes to sub-pixel placement and changes from year to year of the same line. So cool.edwpang - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
This review leaved out a very important area: call quality and data support. I am not keen on LTE. I am fine as long as I can use 3G on my Rogers network.melgross - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
Another Chinese government supported company. It would be nice if web sites reviewing these devices from Chinese companies did a bit of research as why their prices are where they areprisonerX - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
Why would anyone care about that?Did you just discover that China is a communist/authoritarian?
sonny73n - Sunday, September 13, 2015 - link
WTF is wrong with you people? Is capitalist better than communist? How about Saudi Arabia - our "ally"? Stop mixing politic and nationality with tech. FYI more than 80% of products in the U.S. are made in China that included the beloved iPhone. Oh iPhone which costs ~$210 to make but priced at $650. How's that capitalism for you? So please keep the politic bs and racial comments at CNN, Fox or whatever fake news site you like. This is a tech site for God's sake.Yaru - Sunday, October 4, 2015 - link
I'm not a big fan of the a Chinese government and some of their internet policies.......but so what? It's a review of a product not some geopolitical analysis.Also while it's nowhere near the same level, the US government DO give subsidies companies (though tech industry isn't one of them). All goventments gives out subsidies to one degree or another.
Also, where do you think a lot of tech companies manufacturer their products? Those savings from the cheap labor, where do the profits goes? Back to US tech companies.
Penti - Friday, September 11, 2015 - link
I don't see what's up with all the whining, these devices are not sold in Europe by retailers and distributors or by operators. Through their sales in China it's one of the big five brands though. Nobody whines when it comes to Oppo or OnePlus reviews.soccerballtux - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
'for those who don't spend their whole lives reading about this'--LOLanother good review, thanks. impressive phone...bit worried about where my data gets stored (Chinese Clouds are polluted with government eyes), no microSD, and thankfully this doesn't have NFC or Qi so I'm less tempted to purchase, but wow does that have a refined look or what...
Penti - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
I only saw local and Google as options in the pics. I'm pretty sure you can use it without a MI account, and thus nothing syncing to the "MI Cloud".BMNify - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
Mi cloud is opt-in and Xiaomi has migrated its Mi cloud servers to Singapore and India for the International customers and it is handled by Amazon Web Services, here is the link to AWS itself talking about Mi cloud: https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/xiao...Penti - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
I'm pretty sure they have removed the option to sync app data to MI Cloud any how. No need to sync contacts, calendar or photos to the Mi Cloud if you don't want to either.aces170 - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
AT nice to see a review of a xiaomi phone, with the usual in depth perspective. You do have a lot of readers here in India, and we are glad you covered for the region. I don't understand the north American contempt for anything Chinese, especially since everything they use is made in China. Xiaomi is a good brand so far, as Joshua pointed out having the attention to detail that is lacking in Android world. I think you could have covered the audio bit more in detail as note pro shines in that department.Margalus - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
Most of it was not contempt for anything Chinese. Most of the complaining is simply because you have read thru lots of pages of details and reviews before you find out that this phone will not work with any carrier in the USA. That is the problem. Somebody asked for them to put a sentence in saying this at the beginning and then the comments fill up with arrogant Europeans screaming about "muricans" and their entitlement attitude. This is, and always was an American website. So if they start reviewing things that won't work in America, it's pretty simple to just say that at the beginning so that people don't waste their time reading about something that they can't use.They can also do the same if they review something for America that won't work in Europe or Asia so that people from those areas don't have to waste their time if they don't want to.
AussieinUS - Monday, September 14, 2015 - link
FYI my Note works in the USA and Canada with my US T-Mobile account. No LTE but HSPA and 3G. The same speeds that I got in Italy where it was purchased. The Bands in the Note is missing for LTE at least in the version I have. I think 1700. Also the slowness to update from Kitkat is a limitation. Overall a great phone and well priced.johnny_boy - Saturday, September 12, 2015 - link
Android 4.4 KitKat? Really? I wouldn't even consider the Note because of this. I have the Honor 6 and it's taking ages for them to bring their first OS update ever to the phone: apparently we got Lollipop late this month, around the time Marshmallow comes out! Definitely the last phone I buy from Huawei.realbabilu - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
don't worry. They re updating the firmware fast. you can choose nightly every week update.I have oneplus that came with Lollipop CM12s still has the 3 stagefreight bugs, Xiaomi miui patched them fast with kitkat firmware.
The Lollipop Cm12s Oneplus is killing batteries faster than Kitkat Cm11s
vision33r - Sunday, September 13, 2015 - link
Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus reviews are everywhere. I've checked them out and they are super fast, I've never used an Android device that smooth and fast before. I definitely think those are the phones to beat in 2015. However I don't want them because like the iPhone 6 they are due to get refreshed next year when Samsung can finally figure out how to get microSD working. I can do without battery swap but I need ext storage.Yaru - Sunday, October 4, 2015 - link
I doubt Samsung will bring back MicroSD storage. They're targeting the high end premium market with those phones and they rather charge you extra money for extra internal storage like Apple does.NXTwoThou - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
*crosses fingers that WM10 will be available for it or its successor*JimmiG - Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - link
Part of the difference in battery life can also be explained by Android 5.0 vs 4.4.4, since KitKat has superior battery life over Lollipop.hasseb64 - Monday, September 21, 2015 - link
Chinese hardware and STASI software, your personal info is SOLD at least two times...ntgeralt - Wednesday, September 23, 2015 - link
Tell you someting you don't know:In permissions management system, It will automatically scan all your files background and "tell" you how much crash you need to clean.And XiaoMi UI will give you ads push everyweek,you can't find anyplace to turn it off.
The last thing is google it: "XiaoMi backdoor".
pintin - Wednesday, September 30, 2015 - link
Yes.An important reason for the unexpected success of the company Xiaomi were designed both hardware and firmware that runs on the open source software of Android. Xiaomi MIUI interface of speed and design equivalent to the operating system of the iPhone or the Samsung's high-end products but with only half the price. Most Android phone vendors are dependent on similar designs by the third party manufacturers like Foxconn provide.
Mike89 - Thursday, October 15, 2015 - link
Xiaomi phones are not optimized for the US. I bought the Redmi Note 2 and when I got it found it would only do 2G in the US no matter the carrier. For every model number there are numerous sub versions of the same model number for different Countries and for the most part the vendors don't tell you which one they are selling. Mine (from Gearbest) was the China version even though it was stated "worldwide". Doesn't have the right bands or the right bands activated for US use.1010101100 - Thursday, October 29, 2015 - link
Did you even research the product you wanted before getting it? Did take time to check what bands were supported for the product? Did you have knowledge that not all out of state phones might not work within the US? Lastly did you research to see what data speed your carrier provided for the product you were planning to buy? I'm using a Mi Note Pro right now and have no complaints about my data speed since I know for sure at best right now its HSPA+ on T-Mobile or ATT, currently on the GoSmart mobile prepaid network available in NYC. Like someone mentioned earlier majority of our products sold in the US is produced from China for cheap labor and production cost. The design of a certain product can be from US but was not produced in US but from another country mainly China hence the term "Made in China". Leather goods from India or Italy. Surely US is not at a point where it's just stealing credit for the manual labor? I mean Apple has already been stealing credit for where it should be given.irresistible - Thursday, July 7, 2016 - link
After reading this review I decieded to buy an Xiaomi Note Pro for 500€ including all shipping costs and taxes.Today I own an Xiaomi Note Pro for over seven months now and while using it daily, I can assure you the following :
1. Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 has different versions (check here http://www.anandtech.com/show/9388/comparing-snapd...
Xiaomi Note Pro has one of the best version (v.2.1), if not the best version. Therefore the main overheating issue does not exist. From my real-world testing, I assure you that it's not getting warm at 30 degree Celsius room temperature when doing basic tasks (messaging, calls, browsing and so on). When playing taxing games, it will get warm (not hot!) at 30 degree Celsius room temperature. When watching movies for many hours with hardware-acceleration (mandatory in my opinion) your phone will get warm (not hot!). So basically if your room-temperature is about 20 degree Celsius your phone will not even get warm. Were is the overheating issue? If you are gaming 24/7h on max brightness without hardware-acceleration, you might experience throttling. All other scenarios have 0 overheating issues. In my opinion Xiaomi Note Pro is not optimal for heavy daily gaming.
2. Camera
It's okay for most people, but nothing special. Shooting is very quick. Like SNAP (1sec) and picture is taken :). It's true that the low-light performance is not good, but which phone has good low-light performance? Oh, yea you are right, flaghship phones which STARTS at 500-700$.
3. Storage
Non-expandable storage is not always to be seen negatively. Xiaomi Note Pro is 6.9mm thick and it was released at a date were micro-SD slot was not implemented on flagship phones for various reasons. And still to-date there is only a handful phones e.g. Samsung Galaxy S7 which incorporate flagship design with an micro-SD card slot. For the vast majority of users 64GB is more than enough. And those who want more, shouldn't buy this phone.
4. Battery Life
You cannot call battery life: subpar. Why not? This phone is only 6.9mm thick (!!!) and comes with an 1440p display (!!!). And they were able to implement an 3000mah battery, which is huge. But it's also true that it's powerdraw ratio is not that good. Battery lasts about one whole day for most tasks including watching videos (hardware accelerated). You can drastically optimize your battery life with xposed modules e.g. amplifiy, greenify and so on. If you want even more battery life, you can buy Xiaomi Note (non-pro) edition. If you want to do heavy gaming over multiple hours, you shouldn't buy this phone. Games, especially not hardware-accelerated on max brightness will drain your battery fairly quickly. If the battery capacity would be about 2000mah, I would call that sub-par, not 3000mah. Do not forget that this phone is supporting Quick Charge 2.0, your charging time is not that long compared to other phones.
5. Gaming in general
If you are like me and play games on your phone occasionally on the way to work or school or whatever, your battery life will be fine. But if you are sitting down on breaks or e.g. in a park with super nice sunlight playing 3-5 hours at max. brightness your favorite JRPG, your battery won't last a whole day. If you are me, you would solve this issue by connecting an sleek powerbank from Xiaomi :)
If you have any questions, feel freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to ask meeeeeeeeeee.
I would like to end this write-up with the following:
Xiaomi Mi Note Pro is the best 1440p 5.7" smartphone in the world. Only Galaxy Note 5 can compete. (summer 2016)
Coffeemilotea - Saturday, October 8, 2016 - link
Hi is your phone with Android 6.0 Marshmallow or KitKat with MIUI 8? Thanks.