I hope that the compassion software is smart enough to recognize when a file is already compressed (movies, music, JPEG images etc.) since the gains would be so small to the point of not being worth it.
What happens if you let PlexCompressor compress a bunch of data on your drive, say 60% of it, and then you fill the drive up and then you all the sudden start accessing all the data that was compressed?
Unless you have an E processor you're limited by the number of PCI lanes, no? Even M.2 disables a PCI slot and couple of SATA ports on my board. With two video cards there isn't much left to play with and E platform is expensive.
Not true. On the non-X platforms, the chipset provides usually 4 or 8 lanes on its own in addition to the 16 on the CPU. You can have M.2 and 2-way SLI simultaneously.
I addition, the upcoming skylake chipsets will be upgraded to PCIe 3 and have significantly more lanes available. x4 PCIe SSDs will be much easier to implement without needing a PLX in the near future.
And room for a sound card? I'm holding unto my Xonar STX for the foreseeable future... I imagine I'll be upgrading my 2500K before going with a PCIe SSD anyway.
what's the point of releasing the m7e six months after the kingston hyperx predator, being way slower than the intel 750 and samsung sm951 (already in market) and by the time it will be released , silicon motion sm2260 and phison PS5007-E7 will be available which will also be faster ?
There are always a place for lower-priced solutions. While this is nowhere near the speed of the PCIe 3.0 x4 solutions, it's still way faster than SATA SSDs. If it's fast enough and cheap enough, there's definitely a place for it - just not at the top pricing tier. I hope _they_ realize that, anyway.
It'd be tempering at 75% of the 750's price... Something like $300 for half a TB, I imagine 1TB SATA SSD will be at the same price point by then so you get to pick speed or space (or one of each!).
I figure I'll pick up an sm951 when xeon-d shows its face in a little more volume at more reasonable price points. That will be the trigger that lefts me shift hardware around to different tasks (it's a little convoluted). I expected it to happen by now, but if it takes much longer, the sm951 may no longer be the best bet around. At best, maybe the nvme version of the sm951 will be it, but I don't know that it'll be meaningful for client workloads (on x99, so spare cpu cycle abound).
man the price , all is about the pric e.. because in real use there will be no difference .. using these high end PCI-e SSDs .. In windows use it will be just no difference AT ALL
I wonder if the compression can increase the effective bandwidth, since the data is going through the controller and PCIe bus compressed, only being decompressed on the CPU?
It's stored uncompressed originally, so there's no bandwidth savings there. When the file stagnates, the software will compress it, requiring a decompressed read, a compressed write, and a delete/TRIM. That will consume bandwidth, hopefully when idle. When reading the file, that's a compressed read, followed a decompressed write, so there's no bandwidth savings there either.
'Barrier' Who said that 1TB was not possible? That it was a "barrier?" The sound barrier was actually thought to be just that. Scientists and Engineers thought that Chuck Yeager's X1 might break up before ever crossing the sound barrier. The sound waves create a wall that they did not know how, or if it could be breached.
More and more in recent times technical milestones have been characterized as barriers. They are not. Milestones, Thresholds, Limits(as in former limits), these are all reached, breached, or surpassed. Not barriers.
Barriers are used like metaphors. They are lies that give the sentence a stronger impact. Unlike metaphors, this is not a comparison. Metaphors add feeling, flair, and substance. But again, who ever said that 1TB was not possible? Where is the wall? Where is the technical limitation? That description is inaccurate.
But I guess kids these days just think that it is "sick."
Agreed. Apple has had a 1tb M.2 style drive for two years, and both 2.5 and msata drives had 1tb versions. Sounds to me like OEMs are trying to come up with reasons to charge more...
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Kevin G - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
I hope that the compassion software is smart enough to recognize when a file is already compressed (movies, music, JPEG images etc.) since the gains would be so small to the point of not being worth it.Shadowmaster625 - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
What happens if you let PlexCompressor compress a bunch of data on your drive, say 60% of it, and then you fill the drive up and then you all the sudden start accessing all the data that was compressed?nevcairiel - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
It might decompress it on the fly, and keep it compressed on the disc.Zak - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
Unless you have an E processor you're limited by the number of PCI lanes, no? Even M.2 disables a PCI slot and couple of SATA ports on my board. With two video cards there isn't much left to play with and E platform is expensive.patrickjp93 - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
Not true. On the non-X platforms, the chipset provides usually 4 or 8 lanes on its own in addition to the 16 on the CPU. You can have M.2 and 2-way SLI simultaneously.DanNeely - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
I addition, the upcoming skylake chipsets will be upgraded to PCIe 3 and have significantly more lanes available. x4 PCIe SSDs will be much easier to implement without needing a PLX in the near future.Impulses - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
And room for a sound card? I'm holding unto my Xonar STX for the foreseeable future... I imagine I'll be upgrading my 2500K before going with a PCIe SSD anyway.eddieobscurant - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
what's the point of releasing the m7e six months after the kingston hyperx predator, being way slower than the intel 750 and samsung sm951 (already in market) and by the time it will be released , silicon motion sm2260 and phison PS5007-E7 will be available which will also be faster ?tyger11 - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
There are always a place for lower-priced solutions. While this is nowhere near the speed of the PCIe 3.0 x4 solutions, it's still way faster than SATA SSDs. If it's fast enough and cheap enough, there's definitely a place for it - just not at the top pricing tier. I hope _they_ realize that, anyway.Impulses - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
It'd be tempering at 75% of the 750's price... Something like $300 for half a TB, I imagine 1TB SATA SSD will be at the same price point by then so you get to pick speed or space (or one of each!).icrf - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
I figure I'll pick up an sm951 when xeon-d shows its face in a little more volume at more reasonable price points. That will be the trigger that lefts me shift hardware around to different tasks (it's a little convoluted). I expected it to happen by now, but if it takes much longer, the sm951 may no longer be the best bet around. At best, maybe the nvme version of the sm951 will be it, but I don't know that it'll be meaningful for client workloads (on x99, so spare cpu cycle abound).Ethos Evoss - Sunday, June 21, 2015 - link
man the price , all is about the pric e.. because in real use there will be no difference .. using these high end PCI-e SSDs .. In windows use it will be just no difference AT ALLstephenbrooks - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
I wonder if the compression can increase the effective bandwidth, since the data is going through the controller and PCIe bus compressed, only being decompressed on the CPU?Gigaplex - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link
It's stored uncompressed originally, so there's no bandwidth savings there. When the file stagnates, the software will compress it, requiring a decompressed read, a compressed write, and a delete/TRIM. That will consume bandwidth, hopefully when idle. When reading the file, that's a compressed read, followed a decompressed write, so there's no bandwidth savings there either.'nar - Sunday, June 14, 2015 - link
'Barrier' Who said that 1TB was not possible? That it was a "barrier?" The sound barrier was actually thought to be just that. Scientists and Engineers thought that Chuck Yeager's X1 might break up before ever crossing the sound barrier. The sound waves create a wall that they did not know how, or if it could be breached.More and more in recent times technical milestones have been characterized as barriers. They are not. Milestones, Thresholds, Limits(as in former limits), these are all reached, breached, or surpassed. Not barriers.
Barriers are used like metaphors. They are lies that give the sentence a stronger impact. Unlike metaphors, this is not a comparison. Metaphors add feeling, flair, and substance. But again, who ever said that 1TB was not possible? Where is the wall? Where is the technical limitation? That description is inaccurate.
But I guess kids these days just think that it is "sick."
TheinsanegamerN - Monday, June 22, 2015 - link
Agreed. Apple has had a 1tb M.2 style drive for two years, and both 2.5 and msata drives had 1tb versions. Sounds to me like OEMs are trying to come up with reasons to charge more...