Can you and the other members of the AMD-hate circle jerk kindly stop infesting the comment section here? Anandtech is a site for people who want to read about tech, not indulge in mindless dickery. Thanks.
Probably when you can actually get a carrizo powered laptop / 2in1. Have you seen any for sale yet? I haven't, and I've been looking. I really want a laptop with 18Gbps HDMI (2.0) and hardware H.265 decode. They were supposed to be available by now....
About the 2 in 1 aspect... I feel the problem of this market niche is the harsh competition from windows 8.1 (soon to be 10) "Tabletbooks" (2 - 1 tablet + netbook devices like the asus T100). Those are really common and you can get very good models around 200-300€. You can really put the keyboard to full use with the (almost) full-fledged Windows compatibility. If you're gonna buy a not-so-good tablet just because it can make an awesome netbook when you need it, those models kick in and ass.
The Sony Z4 tablet is arguably the best 10" Android tablet on the market. It also comes with a keyboard doc, and does a much better job then the Dell with it. Just because Dell did a poor job of implementing the idea, does not make it a bad idea.
What were you expecting? We all know that last generation ATOM's iGPUs suck (and the current x7 sucks a little less). Wait for a $499 Core M tablet if you want something "interesting", and make sure it doesn't go above 1080p if you want 10+ hours of battery life...
The elephant in the room here is that this is a $500 Android tablet. $500. Starting price. If it were running Windows this would be a legitimate competitor to the Surface 3.
The reality is you can buy two really decent Android tablets for the same price as this, specifically the Asus Transformer. This is basically a $200 Nextbook Ares (includes keyboard) for triple the price. I don't know what Dell is doing here. Covering something in Aluminum doesn't triple its value.
When I was young in markets have gadgets namely "netbook" It's prices were between $150 - $400 as more expensive than they were a much better parameters of the model presented in the article. Definitely for the past few years the company DELL was walking backward with technology, at the expense of increased prices of the models.
Thanks for pointing that out. I thought I had updated the results with the ones that I found to be faster during my Metal testing. What I'll do is run them on iOS 8.4 right now and use those results since that will be the most recent iOS version.
It's too bad. I started out with the old Dell Venue 7 (3740?) and eventually 'progressed' to the Asus Mx173 - based off of the old Nexus device. I was much more impressed with the lateral shift to Asus and my opinion of Dell has been that of a lower tier maker striving to punch up with limited resources and ability. The looks are nice on the Venue, I did appreciate their stylings (esp the Aluminium parts) of their tablet chassis more than the all plastic Asus. It's too bad that something which, IMHO, seems to want to be a flagship product for Dell, in the Venue 10, does't make the grade for the price/quality equation.
What a disaster. When are these Z3xxxx chips going to go away? Cherry trail isnt even that much better really. Intel is just fumbling the ball horribly. They have to be deliberately crippling these chips to make Core M look good. But in so doing, they are steadily removing themselves from the mobile market.
It's pointless to bother now with Fury X review. It's been out everywhere already. You will not learn anything new anyway. Fury X is decent but nothing extremely impressive. 980 ti performs slightly better in most games. Both cards suck as single GPU solution for 4k. Wait for 14/16nm next year...
Maybe this site guys could do Fury Nano Review as soon as possible to save reputation....
and yeah, this Atom $499 Android tablet is a joke. Anything with Atom should not cost more than $250-300 max. Give me $499 hybrid with W10, core M, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD,12'' 1080p touch screen ,than we talk.
"This is made even more obvious by the fact that the barrel on the end is actually made of metal, and frequently has a lower surface temperature than the rest of the chassis."
This is a common misconception. The surface temperature of a metal surface is exactly the same as the temperature of a plastic surface. It feels colder because metal is a very good heat conductor, draining the heat away from your body faster. So the right term would actually be: "feels colder" because the surface temperature is the same.
My wording was definitely not very good in a scientific sense so I've updated it. I've actually seen that Veritasium video before. Thanks for pointing that out though, it's always good to stay on the side of proper terminology.
Whoa, I thought this is a 2 in 1 Windows 8.1 which looks great if this were a Windows device with a quad core Atom. The implementation is quite poor too, weaker than the Zenfone2.
T300 would be totally worth it at that price if it had 16:10 or 3:2 screen and better battery life (around 4-5 hours apparently). Oh well, it's still miles better than this Dell.
By the way, the review is commenting on the weight of the keyboard. But of course the keyboard is quite heavy. It has to be, otherwise it'd tip over at even the shallowest of opening angles. I wouldn't be surprised if they stuffed a steel plate in there or something like that.
Most shocking to me is how I actually felt like I could do more using this Android tablet with a keyboard than I could with the Chromebook Pixel running Chrome OS, which is something that's actually designed to be a laptop."
THIS. Except that it's not at all shocking to me..I've commented many times that Android just seems like a vastly more capable OS overall, than Chrome is.
It really just baffles me how Google is failing to see that. Missing such a critical opportunity by pushing chrome instead of Andromium-like version of Android.
I recently bought a Venue 11 Pro for around the same price with 3x the specs. Why would anyone get this? For the same price you can have a full Windows 8.1 laptop.
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tsk2k - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
When is the Carrizo review coming out?DigitalFreak - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
I'll save you 8 pages of reading.It sucks.
Hulk - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
Thanks you just saved me 15 minutes. And I'm being totally serious.kyuu - Thursday, July 2, 2015 - link
Can you and the other members of the AMD-hate circle jerk kindly stop infesting the comment section here? Anandtech is a site for people who want to read about tech, not indulge in mindless dickery. Thanks.maglito - Monday, July 6, 2015 - link
Probably when you can actually get a carrizo powered laptop / 2in1. Have you seen any for sale yet? I haven't, and I've been looking. I really want a laptop with 18Gbps HDMI (2.0) and hardware H.265 decode. They were supposed to be available by now....nightbringer57 - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
About the 2 in 1 aspect...I feel the problem of this market niche is the harsh competition from windows 8.1 (soon to be 10) "Tabletbooks" (2 - 1 tablet + netbook devices like the asus T100). Those are really common and you can get very good models around 200-300€. You can really put the keyboard to full use with the (almost) full-fledged Windows compatibility. If you're gonna buy a not-so-good tablet just because it can make an awesome netbook when you need it, those models kick in and ass.
JeremyInNZ - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
The Sony Z4 tablet is arguably the best 10" Android tablet on the market. It also comes with a keyboard doc, and does a much better job then the Dell with it. Just because Dell did a poor job of implementing the idea, does not make it a bad idea.zimanodenea - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Intel + PowerVR. I'd rather eat dog poop than buy into this combination again.lilmoe - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
What were you expecting? We all know that last generation ATOM's iGPUs suck (and the current x7 sucks a little less). Wait for a $499 Core M tablet if you want something "interesting", and make sure it doesn't go above 1080p if you want 10+ hours of battery life...Samus - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
The elephant in the room here is that this is a $500 Android tablet. $500. Starting price. If it were running Windows this would be a legitimate competitor to the Surface 3.The reality is you can buy two really decent Android tablets for the same price as this, specifically the Asus Transformer. This is basically a $200 Nextbook Ares (includes keyboard) for triple the price. I don't know what Dell is doing here. Covering something in Aluminum doesn't triple its value.
kyuu - Thursday, July 2, 2015 - link
The new Atom GPUs do not suck. They're quite competitive with current ARM offerings.SniPerfidy - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
I have two of these, they both have issues, especially when trying to use a "Dell Cast" adapter.Save yourself a headache and wait for version 2, or until they fix the bugs.
der - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
8th comment.kspirit - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Needs more Windows and less Android TBHXpl1c1t - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Poorly timed competitor to the Lenovo Yoga Tablet 2 with an inferior price tag.grrrgrrr - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Its really resembles yoga tab 2, it would be interesting to have a comparison.Pork@III - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
When I was young in markets have gadgets namely "netbook" It's prices were between $150 - $400 as more expensive than they were a much better parameters of the model presented in the article. Definitely for the past few years the company DELL was walking backward with technology, at the expense of increased prices of the models.Daniel Egger - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Atom? I'll pass.darkich - Thursday, July 9, 2015 - link
It pretty much killed this devicefroozeball - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Ontario! GO GO GO!Brandon Chester - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
Heh, what gave it away?lucam - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Dear Anand, you should update the GFX results on the iPad Air 2 with the IOS 8.3, that are much faster. Not mentioning the Metal version..Brandon Chester - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Thanks for pointing that out. I thought I had updated the results with the ones that I found to be faster during my Metal testing. What I'll do is run them on iOS 8.4 right now and use those results since that will be the most recent iOS version.froozeball - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
It's too bad. I started out with the old Dell Venue 7 (3740?) and eventually 'progressed' to the Asus Mx173 - based off of the old Nexus device.I was much more impressed with the lateral shift to Asus and my opinion of Dell has been that of a lower tier maker striving to punch up with limited resources and ability.
The looks are nice on the Venue, I did appreciate their stylings (esp the Aluminium parts) of their tablet chassis more than the all plastic Asus.
It's too bad that something which, IMHO, seems to want to be a flagship product for Dell, in the Venue 10, does't make the grade for the price/quality equation.
Thanks for the great review!
Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
What a disaster. When are these Z3xxxx chips going to go away? Cherry trail isnt even that much better really. Intel is just fumbling the ball horribly. They have to be deliberately crippling these chips to make Core M look good. But in so doing, they are steadily removing themselves from the mobile market.Michael Bay - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
There were like two tablets with Z2xxx two phones, so Intel is in fact gaining ground.Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
So its a tablet attached to a pole? lol. I'll see you on slickdeals in 5 months at a price of $149superflex - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Tablets for retards.yefi - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
lol, you pretty nailed the description.yefi - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
*pretty muchbanner - Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - link
Where is furyx review? What take u so long?milkod2001 - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
It's pointless to bother now with Fury X review. It's been out everywhere already. You will not learn anything new anyway. Fury X is decent but nothing extremely impressive. 980 ti performs slightly better in most games. Both cards suck as single GPU solution for 4k. Wait for 14/16nm next year...Maybe this site guys could do Fury Nano Review as soon as possible to save reputation....
milkod2001 - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
and yeah, this Atom $499 Android tablet is a joke. Anything with Atom should not cost more than $250-300 max. Give me $499 hybrid with W10, core M, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD,12'' 1080p touch screen ,than we talk.Azune - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
"This is made even more obvious by the fact that the barrel on the end is actually made of metal, and frequently has a lower surface temperature than the rest of the chassis."This is a common misconception. The surface temperature of a metal surface is exactly the same as the temperature of a plastic surface. It feels colder because metal is a very good heat conductor, draining the heat away from your body faster. So the right term would actually be: "feels colder" because the surface temperature is the same.
Veritasium has mode a video about this: https://youtu.be/vqDbMEdLiCs
Brandon Chester - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
My wording was definitely not very good in a scientific sense so I've updated it. I've actually seen that Veritasium video before. Thanks for pointing that out though, it's always good to stay on the side of proper terminology.Azune - Thursday, July 2, 2015 - link
Great, the rest of the review was very good, but that sentence just stood out to me like a sore thumb.zodiacfml - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
Whoa, I thought this is a 2 in 1 Windows 8.1 which looks great if this were a Windows device with a quad core Atom. The implementation is quite poor too, weaker than the Zenfone2.techguymaxc - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
Why in the world would anyone but this for $499? Right now you can get an Asus Transformer Book T300 Chi for the exact same price from the Microsoft Store. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pd...asfletch - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link
T300 would be totally worth it at that price if it had 16:10 or 3:2 screen and better battery life (around 4-5 hours apparently). Oh well, it's still miles better than this Dell.Ubercake - Wednesday, July 1, 2015 - link
Very thorough review. I feel like I've tried it without even touching it. Nice job!MamiyaOtaru - Tuesday, July 7, 2015 - link
that barrel would be so much better attached to the keyboard. Extra battery when the KB is attached, and not being an unsightly mass in tablet modeGekkePrutser - Tuesday, July 7, 2015 - link
I totally wish this ran Windows and came with a proper BIOS so I could install Linux on it.I'd LOVE to have a laptop / convertible with AMOLED screen. If it's the same screen as the Tab S 10.5 it's fantastic.
However with Android it's meh... It's such a shame there's no proper machines with AMOLED screens yet.
GekkePrutser - Tuesday, July 7, 2015 - link
By the way, the review is commenting on the weight of the keyboard. But of course the keyboard is quite heavy. It has to be, otherwise it'd tip over at even the shallowest of opening angles. I wouldn't be surprised if they stuffed a steel plate in there or something like that.Brandon Chester - Thursday, July 9, 2015 - link
If the tablet itself wasn't so heavy the keyboard could also be lighter. The tablet itself is just way too heavy even without the keyboard dock.darkich - Thursday, July 9, 2015 - link
Most shocking to me is how I actually felt like I could do more using this Android tablet with a keyboard than I could with the Chromebook Pixel running Chrome OS, which is something that's actually designed to be a laptop."THIS.
Except that it's not at all shocking to me..I've commented many times that Android just seems like a vastly more capable OS overall, than Chrome is.
It really just baffles me how Google is failing to see that. Missing such a critical opportunity by pushing chrome instead of Andromium-like version of Android.
Oyeve - Monday, July 27, 2015 - link
I recently bought a Venue 11 Pro for around the same price with 3x the specs. Why would anyone get this? For the same price you can have a full Windows 8.1 laptop.Oyeve - Monday, July 27, 2015 - link
And tab to boot.ibra727 - Thursday, June 2, 2016 - link
Does the Venue 8 7840 , has the same problem in App drawer animation and FPS ?Thanks
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