Mice, in general, come down to user preference of which compromise they are willing to make.
Some are plagued with sluggish and buggy software (Roccat & Razer) Some are plagued with junk clicker switches (Logitech & Razer) Some are just poorly designed for the average hand (Corsair & Mad Catz) (You'll probably like them if you have ginormous hands) Some don't offer enough buttons (Microsoft) Some are just ridiculously priced for what they offer (Mad Catz & Razer)
And, by process of elimination, I'm using a Roccat Kone. Their software is sluggish and buggy when setting up, but it works just fine if I don't have to edit the settings.
As for Cougar, I'll try them out when the current mouse I am using breaks.
I bought a Redragon Mammoth andit has been surprisingly good for a cheap, chinese gaming mouse. Good size, weight, options, fit, plenty of buttons, decent software controls (in windows)... There are way more options than the major players if youre willing to try them out.
Junk clicker switches? That's the easiest to fix, learn how to solder, change the junk switches with high quality Omron ($1-2/switch) and you're fixed with the mouse for life until the sensor dies.
FYI, I did fix one Logitech G300 that I had by doing just that, after I got tired of having to RMA every 3 to 4 months and going through my 5th one.
After that ordeal, logitech has lost me as a customer. There's no reason for such shoddy quality switches being used in the first place, and I should not, in fact no one should, have to tamper with the internals, were it done right to start with.
Yeah, I gave a list of what I hate about other mice from major players, or what I think spoils the experience with them.
The main reason for considering smaller players is because the major players are not offering a good product, so I said I'll try Cougar out, didn't I?
Why or how do you expect anyone who is reading a review to already have the product being reviewed already, when the main reason to read the review, in the first place, is to make an informed purchasing decision?
I'm not an FPS gamer (and as someone who mouses left handed often end up doing extensive changes to default keyboard layouts if I need to keep a hand on the mouse anyway); but my immediate to WASD vs ESDF is To-MAY-to To-MAH-to. Can someone fill me in on why this is actually relevant?
I'm glad to see that they didn't remove any standard keys in order to add new ones. So many manufacturers do that, it becomes almost impossible to find a board with all the normal keys on it.
BTW, what's the spacing on the first row? It looks like the left side CTRL/Win/Alt are larger then normal. Is the spacebar smaller? That would make it almost impossible to put aftermarket caps on there.
It certainly looks that way. By my rather crude estimates, the spacebar looks like 5.5x as wide as a normal key, which is significantly shorter than a typical 6.25x spacebar. Now, a lot of keyboards also use 6x spacebar (Black widow, G710+, etc), so anti-aftermarket boards aren't uncommon.
"Eight programmable buttons" Many companies do NOT define what programmable buttons actually are on their product. E.G.: programmable is the keys/buttons from my g700 mouse, it means that I program them to behave in a certain way.(I do not need to have any s/w to use my mouse. ) All razer products on the other hand, programmable mean the software definition of a key stroke on their product. That is not programmable, it's just software redifinable (if I can stretch english a bit). So, does this keyboard have programmable keys, or software redifinable keys? (sorry if I missed it in the article)
Is there any advantage of being able to switch between six-key and n-key rollover modes? I would have thought that n-key, by its' very nature, is superior, so there wouldn't be any point in six-key rollover. Apologies if I'm being ignorant by the way.
Call me picky, but I think centi is supposed to be a small c, as in cm, and Newtons are definitely supposed to be a capital N, so shouldn't it be cN, not Cn?
In other news, I guess the authors meant to write, in the conclusion: "The major issue here is that despite all those functionality reductions, the retail price of the Cougar 600K ***is not*** significantly lower than the full-featured 700K."
Nice one on the damn keyboard jest. And it's indeed rather sloppy to leave out a chunk of a sentence..
But as for the content: seeing this keyboard is a bit of a disaster as it is, I expect the price will soon become more competitive as it's tossed in the 'last ones, no refunds' bargain bin.
Hey guys! I just found this fancy device: www.indexmouse.com Seems to be a real game changer to me. It's a wireless finger mouse. You move the cursor just by pointing with your index finger. I definitely want one.
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TheSlamma - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
Playing with Cougars.. nice B-)der - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
Dam it feels good to be a gangstaneoresin - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
I just wish there was Linux support for Cougar's mice...meacupla - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
Mice, in general, come down to user preference of which compromise they are willing to make.Some are plagued with sluggish and buggy software (Roccat & Razer)
Some are plagued with junk clicker switches (Logitech & Razer)
Some are just poorly designed for the average hand (Corsair & Mad Catz) (You'll probably like them if you have ginormous hands)
Some don't offer enough buttons (Microsoft)
Some are just ridiculously priced for what they offer (Mad Catz & Razer)
And, by process of elimination, I'm using a Roccat Kone. Their software is sluggish and buggy when setting up, but it works just fine if I don't have to edit the settings.
As for Cougar, I'll try them out when the current mouse I am using breaks.
SilthDraeth - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
I use a Cooler Master Spawn, omron swtches, braided cord, optical sensor with 0 acceleration. They have a few mice worth checking out.Taristin - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
I bought a Redragon Mammoth andit has been surprisingly good for a cheap, chinese gaming mouse. Good size, weight, options, fit, plenty of buttons, decent software controls (in windows)...There are way more options than the major players if youre willing to try them out.
WorldWithoutMadness - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
Junk clicker switches? That's the easiest to fix, learn how to solder, change the junk switches with high quality Omron ($1-2/switch) and you're fixed with the mouse for life until the sensor dies.Alexey291 - Saturday, June 20, 2015 - link
For this much money you'd think I wouldn't have to learn how to solder. Buy tools and buy new switches.So yes I agree with the gentleman above. Junk switches are a thing.
meacupla - Saturday, June 20, 2015 - link
FYI, I did fix one Logitech G300 that I had by doing just that, after I got tired of having to RMA every 3 to 4 months and going through my 5th one.After that ordeal, logitech has lost me as a customer. There's no reason for such shoddy quality switches being used in the first place, and I should not, in fact no one should, have to tamper with the internals, were it done right to start with.
mr_tawan - Saturday, June 20, 2015 - link
Well I quite like clikier, bouncy feel switches. I settled for Logitech mice for that reason.The one I often use is not gaming mouse, by the way, it's Logitech M325.
Chaser - Saturday, June 20, 2015 - link
Thank you for sharing with us your soliloquy of other keyboards and mice but at the end saying nothing of the product and tropic of the topic.meacupla - Sunday, June 21, 2015 - link
Yeah, I gave a list of what I hate about other mice from major players, or what I think spoils the experience with them.The main reason for considering smaller players is because the major players are not offering a good product, so I said I'll try Cougar out, didn't I?
Why or how do you expect anyone who is reading a review to already have the product being reviewed already, when the main reason to read the review, in the first place, is to make an informed purchasing decision?
DanNeely - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
I'm not an FPS gamer (and as someone who mouses left handed often end up doing extensive changes to default keyboard layouts if I need to keep a hand on the mouse anyway); but my immediate to WASD vs ESDF is To-MAY-to To-MAH-to. Can someone fill me in on why this is actually relevant?SilthDraeth - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
Wasd vs esdf gives your fps left hand pinky better access to additional hotkeys that are not such a reach, etc.toyotabedzrock - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
It's hard to find a decent wired keyboard yet there is still this mechanical obsession.meacupla - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
I don't understand how it's "hard" to find a decent wired keyboard.There are, literally, thousands of them out there, mechanical or otherwise.
Mr Perfect - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
I'm glad to see that they didn't remove any standard keys in order to add new ones. So many manufacturers do that, it becomes almost impossible to find a board with all the normal keys on it.BTW, what's the spacing on the first row? It looks like the left side CTRL/Win/Alt are larger then normal. Is the spacebar smaller? That would make it almost impossible to put aftermarket caps on there.
Inteli - Sunday, June 21, 2015 - link
It certainly looks that way. By my rather crude estimates, the spacebar looks like 5.5x as wide as a normal key, which is significantly shorter than a typical 6.25x spacebar. Now, a lot of keyboards also use 6x spacebar (Black widow, G710+, etc), so anti-aftermarket boards aren't uncommon.Yorgos - Friday, June 19, 2015 - link
"Eight programmable buttons"Many companies do NOT define what programmable buttons actually are on their product.
E.G.: programmable is the keys/buttons from my g700 mouse, it means that I program them to behave in a certain way.(I do not need to have any s/w to use my mouse. )
All razer products on the other hand, programmable mean the software definition of a key stroke on their product. That is not programmable, it's just software redifinable (if I can stretch english a bit).
So, does this keyboard have programmable keys, or software redifinable keys?
(sorry if I missed it in the article)
thebadgeroverlord - Sunday, June 21, 2015 - link
Is there any advantage of being able to switch between six-key and n-key rollover modes? I would have thought that n-key, by its' very nature, is superior, so there wouldn't be any point in six-key rollover. Apologies if I'm being ignorant by the way.xnay - Sunday, June 21, 2015 - link
Guys - when the G4 review? ;)sstteevveenn - Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - link
Call me picky, but I think centi is supposed to be a small c, as in cm, and Newtons are definitely supposed to be a capital N, so shouldn't it be cN, not Cn?Mrs. Peacock - Thursday, June 25, 2015 - link
Yes to cNIn other news, I guess the authors meant to write, in the conclusion: "The major issue here is that despite all those functionality reductions, the retail price of the Cougar 600K ***is not*** significantly lower than the full-featured 700K."
Damn keyboards, eh?
Wwhat - Saturday, July 18, 2015 - link
Nice one on the damn keyboard jest. And it's indeed rather sloppy to leave out a chunk of a sentence..But as for the content: seeing this keyboard is a bit of a disaster as it is, I expect the price will soon become more competitive as it's tossed in the 'last ones, no refunds' bargain bin.
Volker - Saturday, August 15, 2015 - link
Hey guys! I just found this fancy device: www.indexmouse.comSeems to be a real game changer to me. It's a wireless finger mouse. You move the cursor just by pointing with your index finger. I definitely want one.