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  • xilience - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Any thoughts for why there is such a large difference in FPS in GRID:Autosport versus the Clevo?
  • SpaceRanger - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    From the looks of it.. The Clevo is sporting a true 4790k(84w), while the Gigabyte's using a 4710HQ(47w) CPU. Apples and Oranges comparison in my eyes.
  • nerd1 - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    It's as slow as razer blade with 970M - which means the whole system throttles a lot under pressure, even compared to razer blade (which is not well known for great cooling)
  • Brett Howse - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    That's not what it means at all. It means that GRID Autosport is more CPU bound. The Clevo with the desktop CPU is way ahead. Razer has a faster CPU and slower GPU, but it's still behind.
  • xKrNMBoYx - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Okay so some of the benchmarks include the MSI GT72 Dominator Pro with basically the same CPU and GPU. Yet all those benchmarks show the P35X beating the GT72 even though they are similar. So if a thin P35X can beat a more roomy GT72 with better cooling how is the P35X suffering from throttling issues?

    The next thing to come to mind logically would be the comparison of the CPUs as the Clevo is using a full 4790K that can run all cores on 4GHz and then the 4720HQ (Razerblade) which is better than the 4710HQ (P34X). Every benchmark here shows the 980M in the P35X beating the 970M by at least ~10FPS and you look at one benchmark where the difference is less than 10FPS and say they perform the same?
  • Frumious1 - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Different drivers would be the reason. GT72 was tested when GTX 980M was practically brand new. NVIDIA had several driver updates that provided substantial increases to performance since last October/November. Too bad AnandTech can't go back and retest some of their previous laptops and update performance with the latest drivers.
  • xKrNMBoYx - Monday, April 27, 2015 - link

    You're right. I was hoping/expecting they did those tests over again. The lastest driver update did boost the desktop Maxwell GPU performances. Seeing that I do have a GT72 Pro with a 980M I should be able to try running a few of these game benchmarks to see if I get similar numbers.
  • nerd1 - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    This review looks extremely shallow - it almost skipped over its main concern (thermal). A single 3D game for thermal testing? Seriously? Since when Anandtech review became like this?
  • hfm - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    At least the system cooling solution noise was mentioned, which sounds like a deal-breaker in my eyes.
  • nerd1 - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Games rarely utilize CPU at all, and many games do not push GPU either. Most other hardware sites uses synthetic tests designed to really push the hardware, and then tests a number of demanding games too.

    And face it, you cannot cram x80M GPU and quadcore CPU inside 20mm thin body and expect it to run cool and silent. Even 17 inch gaming rigs sometimes throttle.
  • Darkstone - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    If a 17" gaming rig throttles, than i suggest sending it back to wherever it came from. These systems are build for maximum performance, and i expect no less of them. Do not forget that the situation grows worse over time when the system builds up dust.

    I'm honestly amazed that throtteling is seen as even remotely acceptable. All the manufacturer has to do is follow the TDP guidelines of the components in question. If they pair an 45W CPU with cooling specced for 35W, its their fault.
  • nerd1 - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Now most systems throttle under 100% CPU and GPU load because a) people want slimmer and lighter machine b) typical gaming scenario are not that demanding. Most games are developed for multi-platform and consoles are notorious for having crappy CPU power.
  • wykd - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Go play some GTA5 and take a look at CPU usage. It will easily max out all cores on my i5-3570k.
  • xKrNMBoYx - Monday, April 27, 2015 - link

    That's one game and so far it seems to happen to CPUs that have only 4-Threads. The game seems to use more than 4 threads a bit better than older games plus the game did put some serious load on CPUs (which was supposedly fixed with a patch) but wasn't as much of a problem with CPUs with more threads.
  • Kutark - Tuesday, April 28, 2015 - link

    Agreed. Honestly if you're looking for that level of gaming in a notebook you should be looking at the 8-10lb 1-2" thick ones, you're basically using it as a desktop replacement at that point. Going for a super thin notebook with top end hardware is a recipe for disaster as far as thermals.

    Hell i have a ~1" thick 17" with an 860m and it will occasionally throttle, and it has a very well designed cooling system.

    Whats the point of having a superbadass CPU/GPU if its throttling it every time you load a game up.

    Thats like having a Porsche that limits you to only 5 seconds of 100% throttle then backs it down to 60% throttle because of heating issues. Nobody in their right mind would buy a porsche that can't perform at the tops of its game all the time.
  • DCide - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Your statement looks weird to my ears.
  • Ikas - Sunday, May 3, 2015 - link

    It truly is a shame such a great overall package is ruined by the extremely loud fans, sure gaming laptops run hot and loud but this takes it to a whole other level.
  • kyuu - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Why do you need to use more than one game to test the thermals?
  • meacupla - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    I, for one, wouldn't mind trading off battery size for better and quieter cooling in a system like this.

    If I had one of these, most likely, I'm just going to play games on it when it's hooked up to a wall outlet, so I really don't see much point in having good battery life over better cooling and acoustics.
  • nikaldro - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Then just buy a desktop AND a low power notebook?
  • meacupla - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    That's exactly what I have right now, with an mITX RVZ01 and Surface Pro, but I would much rather have something lighter and doesn't require a separate monitor.

    The alternatives are gaming AIO or something like an Asus GR8 + monitor.
  • Venturello - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    From the battery life I am not sure... does it support/use Optimus to turn off the nVidia GPU when running non-gaming applications? I have a laptop with this and its great to optimize power. If it is pulling out 5 hours with the GPU enabled, color me impressed!
  • Brett Howse - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Yes it does use Optimus.
  • Venturello - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Thanks - that is great to limit heat, fans, power usage while off the grid. Good review!
  • bennyg - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Optimus has allowed top end gaming notebooks to get 4+ hours for a few years now, since it was implemented with some GTX 680M's. There was hate on it early on but I've had absolutely zero issues with mine for the last two years. I've had to manually select 'open with Nvidia processor' maybe, twice ever?
  • nerd1 - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Some of old MMORPG games (developed long ago) are terrible with Optimus/enduro. And I never use those as I need linux on my machines (which has terrible driver support to begin with, even without optimus)
  • jabber - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Wow...a gaming laptop an adult could dare to be seen with! Well done Gigabyte! At least one company recognises that not everyone is into aliens and dragons.

    Just go easy with the case stickers okay!
  • bennyg - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Clevo has been making laptops with the fastest of fast components in a business looking notebook shell since forever.
  • darkfalz - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Continuing the stupid trend of notebook GPU parts inexplicably having twice the video memory, except much lower speed, of desktop parts for absolutely no reason.
  • meacupla - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    I'm pretty sure the lower speed has always been like that for mobile parts, so I would hazard a guess and say it has something to do with power consumption and heat output.
    Probably using ULV chips.
  • Hubb1e - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    If you like the idea of this laptop but are not sold on the total execution, the Clevo p650se should be on your radar. It has a thin design that is only a little larger than the Gigabyte but lacks the optical drive and adds more cooling performance. Build quality is comparable and quite good. I just got a Clevo p650se (from Sager np8651) with the 970m and it is decently portable for a gaming laptop with a top tier GPU. At idle it is almost completely silent with only a very slight hum from the CPU fan. The 2nd HD spinning is noisier than the fan in my Clevo and that turns off after a minute of use anyways. As an early member of SilentPCReview.com idle noise was important to me. Less important to me was load noise and this Clevo exceeded my expectations with only a mild hum from the exhaust (vsync is on reducing load). I can game easily without headphones on and don't notice the noise at all once in the game. As a Clevo notebook you can get it from several vendors which opens up displays from bad TN 1080p panels to full 4k IPS displays. I opted for the Sager which came stock with a pretty good 1080p IPS panel. Mine has some light bleed in the lower left corner, but is otherwise one of the best displays I've used on a Windows laptop. I wanted this Gigabyte in this review but after reading other reviews on it I decided I didn't want a noisy laptop. My Clevo has been great and I recommend it. Hopefully Anandtech can get their hands on one.
  • Dr_Orgo - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    I have this laptops little brother, the Gigabyte P34G-V1. I've been quite happy with it. Howerver, these thin and light gaming notebooks aren't for everyone. I was looking for a work laptop that was small enough to bike to work with, but powerful enough to run modern games at 1920x1080 with good settings. I already have a gaming desktop that I use as my primary machine. I wanted a laptop to play co-op pc games with my wife at good enough quality. It serves that purpose quite well.
  • Darkstone - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Are you really sure you've interpreted the cooling/frequency graph correctly? From the way i see it, the CPU is throtteling at 800mhz. 30 seconds into the test.

    This can mean 2 things, either the benchmark does not utilize the CPU beyond a very basis level, or the system is really throttling. In either case, the benchmark is completely unrepresentative.

    I suggest running prime95 on a low priority alongside any game, carefully monitor the TDP of the CPU and the clock speeds of the GPU. The temperature can be, imo, mostly ignored. The clock speeds of the cpu can be completely ignored.
  • Brett Howse - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    The CPU Load is only 30%, so the CPU clocks down to keep temps down.
  • Jon Tseng - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    The Gigabyte P35X v3 Review: Slim GTX980M Gaming Laptop

    "Slim" and "GTX980M" - two words I never thought I'd see in the same sentence! :-p
  • bennyg - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Slim, powerful, cool, quiet, reasonably priced. Pick a maximum of three.
  • BMNify - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    Excellent Slim gaming laptop, cheaper and better than Razer Blade too, And not to forget the most important point: Gigabyte actually sells their laptops worldwide whereas Razer is USA only !! Can't take any laptop manufacturer seriously who sells only in one country.
  • meacupla - Sunday, April 26, 2015 - link

    Well, razer does sell to Canada, but with expensive shipping + duties.
    I'm sure razer could prepay duties, like newegg does, but nope.
  • erple2 - Thursday, April 23, 2015 - link

    I've been waiting a bit for this review. It looked like it checked all of the right boxes, and could be the replacement for my aging Envy 15t, at least as a portable gaming computer. I was hoping for better battery life than what this gives (just under 5 hours seems low), and a better keyboard. The trackpad on my Envy 15 is pretty bad (then again, every non-macbook pro trackpad has been pretty terrible IMO), but the keyboard is reasonable. It's battery life is terrible though at a whopping 90 minutes at idle on the desktop.

    Anyway, I wish they'd just get rid of the space the DVD drive takes up, and shrink the chassis more. Also, the more I use laptops, the less I like a number pad. I'd rather connect it up to a KVM switch if I really needed a number pad.

    I dunno, it still looks like a pretty solid laptop, and isn't horribly angled like the kiddie laptops that have similar internals.
  • milkod2001 - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    i wonder if it would help dramatically with noise/thermal issues if they have implemented different notebook design approach: Starting from front very thin(2-3 mm) continuing to thick(up to 25mm).
    This way there would be enough space at the rear to implement better/bigger cooling system.
    Plus it would be better for typing as laptop keyboard would face up the same way as any external keyboard.

    Aslo trackpad completely removed for navigation only touch screen or external mice would be used.
    Keyboard moved to front, made bigger for better typing experience and at the position where keyboard currently is now to have bigger speakers +small sub.

  • nerd1 - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    That's how asus designs their ROG laptops. It has very thick rear side that fits almost two inch thick heat sink there.
  • Valantar - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    "A lot of that comes down to the large body of a 15.6 inch laptop. Although a 14 inch and 15.6 inch laptop sound like they are pretty close in size, in reality a 15.6 inch device is significantly larger in every dimension."

    I can't help but think that has more to do with the inclusion of an optical drive (or the other way around: they include it just because the size allows them to do so easily), at least looking at the size comparison photo. With some decent engieneering and a 14" panel, they should be able to fit every part from this PC except the ODD in a chassis similar to (perhaps sligtly larger than) the pictured Lenovo. In which case, it would become a far more attractive PC, at least for me.
  • Hrel - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    "there is plenty of real estate to add the ports, so it is hard to complain about them being there."

    um, what? More ports is ALWAYS a good thing. If there's room enough put MORE USB ports on it!
  • StigtriX - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Is this also plagued by a horrid design flaw like the v1 and v2?
    I am talking about the lack of proper support around the optical drive, which leads to the keyboard giving in, and the whole chassis becoming bent after regular use. My v1 came with a bent chassis from the store... I immediately returned it and will never tust Gigabyte again. Their "solution" was to add more foam to the packaging, so that by the time the chassis would bend, the guarantee would be out and the problem was then the customers (for countries where the customer does not have proper protection by law).
  • der - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    GAH ALWAYS LATE WITH DIS SHT FOK
  • zqw - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Do any of the video ports bypass Intel/Optimus so they're NVidia only? Maybe the DisplayPort?

    Optimus is bad for VR since it adds latency. And, it currently has many compatibility problems with Oculus Rift DK2.
  • Brett Howse - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    No the IGP is the display controller. See this link http://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/582#3
  • NeoteriX - Friday, April 24, 2015 - link

    Is the bottom of the P35X really metal/aluminum too? I only ask because the bigger brother, the P37 series appears to have a plastic bottom (I just opened mine this morning to add an MSATA drive).
  • FlushedBubblyJock - Saturday, April 25, 2015 - link

    Bezel thickness, keyboard and trackpad are deal breakers.

    Otherwise I'd really want it
  • Ice-Tea - Sunday, April 26, 2015 - link

    Air is not sucked in at the front. It's sucked it at the bottom. As for 99% of all laptops. And 8GB GDDR5? Sure?
  • Ice-Tea - Sunday, April 26, 2015 - link

    Actually, he's probably sure about the 8GB 😄
  • sonicmerlin - Monday, April 27, 2015 - link

    Are there any g sync or freesync laptops planned for release?
  • sonicmerlin - Monday, April 27, 2015 - link

    They spent 0 engineering hours optimizing this laptop for light workloads. That's why the battery life is exactly the same while gaming vs web browsing. Really lame. What's the point of Haswell and Broadwell's power conservation abilities if you won't make use of it?
  • inperfectdarkness - Tuesday, May 5, 2015 - link

    Not bad, but not a compelling reason to pick this over an MSI 3k IPS edition.
  • Sarthak Dahiya - Friday, May 22, 2015 - link

    Sir I am an avid reader of your articles and really appreciate the work you put in. Which is that one laptop you would buy for gaming if you will? I cannot come to a conclusion as to which one to buy right now. Little help would go a long way

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