Lenovo's claims are just wrong. The Asus T300 Chi (1440p version) is 720 grammes, so it is lighter, and it costs 799 dollars, which is considerably cheaper than what Lenovo is offering.
No, YOU are wrong. You are comparing a standalone Asus Chi tablet with Lenovo's clamshell ultrabook. Docked to its keyboard, Asus T300 Chi weighs about 3 lbs.
That's why my question was what is considered a "PC" now? Used to be a PC meant x86 compatible. But tablets have really altered how a traditional PC functions. So do we call tablets that are fully x86 compatible "PC's"?
I assume Lenovo is discussing within their 11-14" premium ultraportable range. Otherwise you could obviously go down as small as that Intel HDMI dongle running Windows.
I'd say with Broadwell that the Y series is now amalgamated into the U series as shown by the stronger emphasis on cTDP and how low they can go which is lower than stock Haswell Y; not sure about cTDP with Haswell Y. Whereas Core M is a separate design on a separate process even if I recall correctly and sits below the Y series TDP.
My 2.3 pound Haswell i7 Sony Vaio Pro gets 8.5 hours of battery life on the Anand medium workload. I'm sure these will be fine with the new broadwell parts.
Agreed. This is getting really stupid. What is more unacceptable than unacceptable? Having 4GB single channel soldered on with no upgrade path was a poor choice for ivy bridge systems. It was unacceptable for Haswell. What do we call this now other than absolute delusion or stupidity. I refuse to buy this for myself or any of my clients. There was even a smoking boxing day deal on one of these 4gb solder jobs a few weeks ago, but it was easy to say no...
Agreed, a little more thickness to have a real battery and 8gb of ram is a tradeoff I think most people would be ok with. But maybe that's what the Yoga line is for and this is meant to be the lightest/most portable possible?
Still think the battery life is going to be questionable.
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westrock2000 - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
I wonder what qualifies as a PC now-a-days. My $60 7" baytrail tablet from Micro Center weighs in at 350g (12.35oz). It's full Windows compliant.Mondozai - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
Lenovo's claims are just wrong. The Asus T300 Chi (1440p version) is 720 grammes, so it is lighter, and it costs 799 dollars, which is considerably cheaper than what Lenovo is offering.Lenovo's gotta step up their game.
arsjum - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
No, YOU are wrong. You are comparing a standalone Asus Chi tablet with Lenovo's clamshell ultrabook. Docked to its keyboard, Asus T300 Chi weighs about 3 lbs.Lonyo - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
Panasonic have a 745g ultrabook in Japan. Clamshell design but can be rotated, so Lenovo are still wrong.http://akihabaranews.com/2014/10/02/article-en/pan...
arsjum - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
Wrong again. Panasonic ultrabook has 10.1 inch screen, while the Lenovo ultrabook has 13.3. So, Lenovo is right.westrock2000 - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
That's why my question was what is considered a "PC" now? Used to be a PC meant x86 compatible. But tablets have really altered how a traditional PC functions. So do we call tablets that are fully x86 compatible "PC's"?Drumsticks - Thursday, January 8, 2015 - link
I assume Lenovo is discussing within their 11-14" premium ultraportable range. Otherwise you could obviously go down as small as that Intel HDMI dongle running Windows.ydeer - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
Are these fanless?ruthan - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
Good question.Novacius - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
They aren't as far as I can tell.IntelUser2000 - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
It shouldn't be, as they are said to be "Core i5s and Core i7s". And the lowest power of that lineup is 15W.smilingcrow - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
The Haswell Y series go to 11.5W for i5 and with Broadwell even lower I think.smilingcrow - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
With cTDP Broadwell goes to 7.5W.ClockworkPirate - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
Broadwell-Y chips are called Core M, not Core i3/5/7. So we could still be looking at a cTDP-down'd part, but not Broadwell-Y.smilingcrow - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
I'd say with Broadwell that the Y series is now amalgamated into the U series as shown by the stronger emphasis on cTDP and how low they can go which is lower than stock Haswell Y; not sure about cTDP with Haswell Y.Whereas Core M is a separate design on a separate process even if I recall correctly and sits below the Y series TDP.
tuxRoller - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
No mention of battery.I'm gonna guess somewhere south of 5 hours.
Omniwar - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
My 2.3 pound Haswell i7 Sony Vaio Pro gets 8.5 hours of battery life on the Anand medium workload. I'm sure these will be fine with the new broadwell parts.SetiroN - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
4GB.For fuck's sake.
nwarawa - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
Agreed. This is getting really stupid. What is more unacceptable than unacceptable? Having 4GB single channel soldered on with no upgrade path was a poor choice for ivy bridge systems. It was unacceptable for Haswell. What do we call this now other than absolute delusion or stupidity. I refuse to buy this for myself or any of my clients. There was even a smoking boxing day deal on one of these 4gb solder jobs a few weeks ago, but it was easy to say no...andrewaggb - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
Agreed, a little more thickness to have a real battery and 8gb of ram is a tradeoff I think most people would be ok with. But maybe that's what the Yoga line is for and this is meant to be the lightest/most portable possible?Still think the battery life is going to be questionable.
piroroadkill - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
They'll just keep shovelling this shit into your mouth whether you like it or not.Nobody wanted 1366×768 either.
FATCamaro - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
Or you could just, you know, buy a macbook Air and run Windows on it if you have to.piroroadkill - Tuesday, January 6, 2015 - link
Well, I'm not saying you have to buy something you don't like - but it's absurd that the mark keeps getting missed so many times in the laptop market.baii9 - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
damn, lenovo polluting and destroying any niche/quality laptop brand out there. First, thinkpad now this ~~Byte - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
So is this a step up or step down from a Yoga 3?Byte - Monday, January 5, 2015 - link
I meant Yoga 3 Pro