Glad to see you guys made it to this one! This way we can get reliable information if Apple has as many streaming issues as they did last month. It'd be nice if you'd announce the live blog a couple days before on the pipeline.
Tegra K1 Denver has binary translation + code optimization/morphing. It's brand new microarchitecture, not just another revision of the same uarch like A8 is of A7.
The trouble the nexus 9 will have is finding anything that really takes advantage of the massive GPU. At least you can count on people writing stuff to the new ipad specs.
This has always been the issue. Developers actually use the specs of iOS tablets for apps and games. Its much harder to find the same on Android tablets, and what little is there is almost always a port.
The Tegra K1 is very good but the platform is still waiting on games that iOS has had for months or years.
It depends on the game. Hearthstone, XCom, FTL, and Civ Rev are all great games for touch. I wouldn't play something like Smash Bros on the iPad, obviously the 3DS is better for that. Shooters also suck, but its all about playing the right games for the platform.
Knocking good tablet hardware because "who plays touch games anyway" is a terrible argument since there is obviously good software on tablets.
Use the tablet or iPhone as a touch controller. Wirelessly stream the video to Airplay over Apple TV. The latency is so low this is viable! You can even have 4 iPhones doing split screen...
Disagree, the difference in smoothness between the iPad 4 and iPad Air was huge.
Also, this is about operating systems and software libraries. It is a massive hit for Blizzard with 20 million players and it still doesn't have a release date for Android.
On a hardware basis, it will be interesting to see how the A8X compares to the Tegra K1. However, I suspect that in most cases, the A7 will meet or beat the Tegra K1 for apps that leverage Metal on iOS 8.
Indeed. Journalists need to call Apple out on it though rather than repeating it.
Of course Apple would probably claim that the Dell Value 8 7000 is not yet available... but that merely puts it in the same category as the iPad Air 2 - announced but not yet released.
If the Dell Venue 8 7000 ships before the iPad Air 2 then you have a point, but we know it's not. Do they even have a ship date yet? Last time I checked Dell simply said, "Coming Soon."
I didn't think Apple would pull the trigger on 5120x2880 panel, thought it would be "regular" 4k. Lots of question whether this will run anything smoothly other than a cursor moving across the screen but props to them. And they ship TODAY while the Dell 5k monitor announced a month and a half ago is still MIA. Color me impressed.
Indeed; it's interesting to know tech specs of this new R9 M295X :)
Anyway, since it's an "M" ("Mobility") part, I suppose it will have TDP below 130 W; if so, this means reduced clocks, so it won't be super fast anyway.
Me too. 980M actually seems to be better from the performance point of view in actual 3D than any current AMD offering.
My guess is AMD sells their GPUs to Apple cheaper than nV may do with their GM204, and/or the situation has to do something with the driver/display support in hardware *specifically* for 5K.
I think Apple's choice probably has more to do with compute (OpenCL) strength. AMD offers a lot of compute strength across all price points whereas Nvidia tries to limit compute to the high end. It fits with Apple's current software development path. I'm also curious if AMD intends to offer Mantle support to OSX... it would certainly be a tremendous benefit to OSX (for games that support it).
I think AMD could also offer a better price thanks to its market position - but it is impressive that AMD has successfully integrated into PS4, Xbone, WiiU, Mac Pro, and now imac. If they offer a compelling-enough X68/ARM hybrid, we might even see them in the next (or next next) ipad.
I thought so too, until I went to their website and saw that they discontinued the "server" variety that came with a "quad" core I7. Now they only offer a "dual" core I7.
I was pretty disappointed by this. I've considered retiring my old Mac Pro, since I have a better desktop PC for gaming at this point. However, I still use a lot of OSX apps and would want a Mini around for that. I don't think I can get myself to buy a dual core Mini.
Until you realize the $500 version has a low voltage CPU, 4GB of RAM, and a 500GB 5400rpm mechanical hard drive. The $700 mid-spec offering is the first decent one, and that still has mechanical storage. The Fusion drive option or a 256GB SSD bring you to $900. Not such a hot deal...
"The $700 mid-spec offering is the first decent one, and that still has mechanical storage. The Fusion drive option or a 256GB SSD bring you to $900. Not such a hot deal..."
On the other hand, minis are one of the few remaining Macs that can be upgraded with only modest effort. Assuming they still have dual SATA connectors inside, you can upgrade the mid-range offering to have a fusion drive for less than $100 and a couple hours of your time.
OTOH, they may have finally deleted the second SATA port, in which case, DIY upgrading just got more complicated -- you'd need to source a compatible PCI-e SSD, and it probably won't be cheap.
"not a fusion drive, but just only SSD with no HDD at all, as for recent MBPs."
ON a laptop, I can see sacrificing lots of storage for the speed of an SSD, or paying through the nose for a 1tb SSD if you really need to have a big fast drive. On a desktop, paying $400 (more if you're getting it from Apple) for a huge SSD makes no sense whatsoever -- the fusion drive gives you 90% of the speed of an SSD for less than half the cost.
I fully agree with you from the price/performance point of view; I just guessed what was meant in the Live Blog by its author (Ryan). For the desktop (here: big all-in-one iMac 27 inch), of course, it makes much more sense to combine SSD and HDD.
That's all you would need for a desktop. I'm have 2 systems at home using Seagate Momentus XTs, with 4GB SSD caches, and they work quite well. I think a 128GB SSD cache should perform pretty close to an SSD.
I had a laptop with Seagate Momentus XT 750 GB with 8 GB cache (it still works, just gave it away to friends); indeed, this storage type (now called SSHD by Seagate) is a reasonable compromise between speed, storage capacity and price.
Very disappointed that the iMac comes with AMD radeon graphics. With the release of the NVIDIA GTX 980M I was hoping Apple would switch; however, the max resolution of the 980M is 3840x2160 and the new iMac is 5120x2880 so that may have been the deciding factor.
I'd prefer they put a desktop grade GTX 980 in the iMac instead of a mobile part, though I think they care more about acoustics than performance. Probably too loud to keep it cool.
Right, but, talking 3D gaming, iMac is not really a gaming solution in the first place, AFAIU, so this GPU choice should be OK, probably. But no CUDA this time (since the GPU is from AMD) may be a downside for some amount of people, probably.
Another integration win for AMD. I don't know how they're doing it. I am glad they are winning somewhere. Again, they're graphics unit is keeping them relevant. I am curious about the AMD M295X.
Though I am surprised that Nvidia is not getting any wins with GPUs outside of laptops. Would love to see a mobile GPU comparison of performance red vs. green in the 4K+ segment. Maybe we can find an answer there.
so a 3 billion transistors SoC on 20nm process that is barely same level as 1b Tegra K1 on 28nm ? In other words, 3 times more transistors on a better process for this "little" performance ? Where all this silicon is used for ? color me unimpressed...
Not much known about either SoCs at this point. There's a Geekbench result for the HTC Volantis, maybe a pre-production version of the Nexus 9, with pretty impressive results. Looks like the A6X effectively will nuke Denver K1 buzz as top dog if the 1.4x CPU and 2.5x GPU marketing holds.
It does mean that Nvidia has to move faster if they want more wins in the phone and tablet space. They are competing against Qualcomm and Samsung and MediaTek and who knows who else, not Apple. If Denver is really good, we should see them in more tablets soon.
The extra silicon is used for a variety of other things, hardware video decoders, camera ISP, encrypted storage for TouchID. Most likely about half the transistors are not dedicated to the processor/GPU. When you look at the A8 pictures, that's the way it is. Also, Apple purposefully keeps a low clock rate on their CPUs to try and allow them to run closer to max capacity without throttling down so much.
Maybe an full sRGB color gamut ? That would be a nice upgrade...
But even then, this iPad mini 3 looks like tha iPad 3 which quickly brought up an improtant feature and then being replaced 6 months later. An 6,1 mm iPad mini with ~300 g weight, A8X full sRGB and super low reflectivity screen is just too tempting idea.
I don't get it! Why not just announce a price cut for the iPad Mini 2 and iPad Air and make it a Mac event. My iPhone 6 plus can do everything the Mini 3 can do and ditto my iPad Air less the Gold ionization! Nothing to see here..
So now their 218 PPI screen is "Retina"? It's a dumb name anyway, since retinas sense light, and the screen isn't doing any sensing!
Is that box really the "world's most efficient"? What about an Atom-based box like an EEE? And does their box even have any USB ports? What's the video port?
"Retina" is a factor of both PPI and distance. People don't sit as close to their desktop as they do with their phones. Also, you seem to have an issue with the price. Yet, can you demonstrate an alternative that matches that display size / quality for the same or less? Go ahead... even try to build your own for that kind of money. Let's see what you come up with.... ...crickets....
Apple has a 5K display option for $2,500 iMac which you irrational shit on and your replay to techconc's reasonable reply is to mention a $250 Dell display without any consideration of potential uses for a 5K display or Dell's very own $2,500 display (only) that has yet to ship. Pathetic.
And btw Dell already has a 4K $2500 display shipping. It's 32"; 40% larger than the iMac's 27".
Most people probably buy an iMac because it's an all-in-one, and not because of its unique screen. Most people probably also sit the display far enough back from their eyes that the extra PPI doesn't make that much of a difference.
"Most people probably buy an iMac because it's an all-in-one, and not because of its unique screen."
Do you have any data to support this? It seems to me that iMacs are targeted towards people in visual design professions. Apple is giving people a bonus computer for the same price as a Dell 5k monitor.
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caleblloyd - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Glad to see you guys made it to this one! This way we can get reliable information if Apple has as many streaming issues as they did last month. It'd be nice if you'd announce the live blog a couple days before on the pipeline.doggghouse - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Wonder what's new on the iPad... guessing it'll be another very small iteration (new processor, new OS, new number after it).caleblloyd - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I can't wait to see the A8X (or whatever they end up calling it) go head-to-head with the Tegra K1 Denver on the Nexus 9FATCamaro - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
At this stage, It is about the software. Apple has had class leading CPUs or GPUs (sometimes both!) for a long time now.caleblloyd - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Tegra K1 Denver has binary translation + code optimization/morphing. It's brand new microarchitecture, not just another revision of the same uarch like A8 is of A7.kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
But there is still one question: how much RAM iPad Air 2 has? 1GB or 2GB?WinterCharm - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
2GB. Leaks confirmed this.Midwayman - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
The trouble the nexus 9 will have is finding anything that really takes advantage of the massive GPU. At least you can count on people writing stuff to the new ipad specs.KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
This has always been the issue. Developers actually use the specs of iOS tablets for apps and games. Its much harder to find the same on Android tablets, and what little is there is almost always a port.The Tegra K1 is very good but the platform is still waiting on games that iOS has had for months or years.
edsib1 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Who plays games on a tablet anyway? - to play proper games u need a controller - touch screen is not repsonsive enough or is awkward to use.Something like a 3DS or a Vita is much better.
KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
It depends on the game. Hearthstone, XCom, FTL, and Civ Rev are all great games for touch. I wouldn't play something like Smash Bros on the iPad, obviously the 3DS is better for that. Shooters also suck, but its all about playing the right games for the platform.Knocking good tablet hardware because "who plays touch games anyway" is a terrible argument since there is obviously good software on tablets.
techconc - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
You should try something like World of Tanks Blitz on the iPad. This is one of the main titles that has changed my opinion of gaming on tablets.WinterCharm - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
Use the tablet or iPhone as a touch controller. Wirelessly stream the video to Airplay over Apple TV. The latency is so low this is viable! You can even have 4 iPhones doing split screen...kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
What games exactly?KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Mostly Hearthstone these days. Blizzard still doesn't have a release date for Android.I played a lot of XCom too. Took a year but 2K finally ported that over.
kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Hearthstone isnt a gpu-heavy game. You don't need that much power for it.KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Disagree, the difference in smoothness between the iPad 4 and iPad Air was huge.Also, this is about operating systems and software libraries. It is a massive hit for Blizzard with 20 million players and it still doesn't have a release date for Android.
kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Now, it's definitely should be GX6650 and it's actually can compete with Tegra K1. But Apple's chip will be less power hungry because it's 20nm.techconc - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
On a hardware basis, it will be interesting to see how the A8X compares to the Tegra K1. However, I suspect that in most cases, the A7 will meet or beat the Tegra K1 for apps that leverage Metal on iOS 8.kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I don't think so. Did you try Asphalt 8 or Modern Combat 5 with Metal? It's just a bit more particles and effects, performance is the same.techconc - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
What one developer chose to do is not necessarily representative of what the technology is capable of.edsib1 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
This tech events have become a bore - nothing "new" comes out of them - everything is just a slight update on last years.They should change the venue to Yawnsville, Tennessee
Intervenator - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
01:41PM EDT - iPad Air 2NO WAY
AnandTechUser99 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
"18% thinner.World's thinnest tablet"The Dell Venue 8 7000 is 6.0 mm thick, so I don't think that claim is appropriate (not that it really matters).
Khato - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Indeed. Journalists need to call Apple out on it though rather than repeating it.Of course Apple would probably claim that the Dell Value 8 7000 is not yet available... but that merely puts it in the same category as the iPad Air 2 - announced but not yet released.
solipsism - Sunday, October 19, 2014 - link
If the Dell Venue 8 7000 ships before the iPad Air 2 then you have a point, but we know it's not. Do they even have a ship date yet? Last time I checked Dell simply said, "Coming Soon."Achtung_BG - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Apple A8X vs Nvidia Tegra DK1 is very intrasting comaprison. I wait for die shot from Chipworks :)aoshiryaev - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I wonder if it will run in Target Display Mode with 2013 MBA. If it will, it's an instant buy. Not at native resolution, of course, but still.ddarko - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I didn't think Apple would pull the trigger on 5120x2880 panel, thought it would be "regular" 4k. Lots of question whether this will run anything smoothly other than a cursor moving across the screen but props to them. And they ship TODAY while the Dell 5k monitor announced a month and a half ago is still MIA. Color me impressed.Qwertilot - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Well, it probably explains why the Dell has gone MIA :)raghu78 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
So a fully enabled Tonga R9 M9 295X is most likely driving the new Retina Machttp://videocardz.com/50737/amd-radeon-r9-m295x-to...
nathanddrews - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
R9 M295X1. Most likely the long-rumored Tonga-XT
2. Needs m0AR numberz and letterzz!
TiGr1982 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Indeed; it's interesting to know tech specs of this new R9 M295X :)Anyway, since it's an "M" ("Mobility") part, I suppose it will have TDP below 130 W; if so, this means reduced clocks, so it won't be super fast anyway.
kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I just wonder why not Nvidia's 970M/980M. They're more powerful and has less TDP.Tikcus9666 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
MONEY, AMD will have put a better bid in and potentially availabilityTiGr1982 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Me too. 980M actually seems to be better from the performance point of view in actual 3D than any current AMD offering.My guess is AMD sells their GPUs to Apple cheaper than nV may do with their GM204, and/or
the situation has to do something with the driver/display support in hardware *specifically* for 5K.
nathanddrews - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
I think Apple's choice probably has more to do with compute (OpenCL) strength. AMD offers a lot of compute strength across all price points whereas Nvidia tries to limit compute to the high end. It fits with Apple's current software development path. I'm also curious if AMD intends to offer Mantle support to OSX... it would certainly be a tremendous benefit to OSX (for games that support it).I think AMD could also offer a better price thanks to its market position - but it is impressive that AMD has successfully integrated into PS4, Xbone, WiiU, Mac Pro, and now imac. If they offer a compelling-enough X68/ARM hybrid, we might even see them in the next (or next next) ipad.
bleh0 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
The new Mac Mini seems like a decent deal.Eidigean - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I thought so too, until I went to their website and saw that they discontinued the "server" variety that came with a "quad" core I7. Now they only offer a "dual" core I7.weevilone - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I was pretty disappointed by this. I've considered retiring my old Mac Pro, since I have a better desktop PC for gaming at this point. However, I still use a lot of OSX apps and would want a Mini around for that. I don't think I can get myself to buy a dual core Mini.Bob Todd - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Until you realize the $500 version has a low voltage CPU, 4GB of RAM, and a 500GB 5400rpm mechanical hard drive. The $700 mid-spec offering is the first decent one, and that still has mechanical storage. The Fusion drive option or a 256GB SSD bring you to $900. Not such a hot deal...Glaurung - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
"The $700 mid-spec offering is the first decent one, and that still has mechanical storage. The Fusion drive option or a 256GB SSD bring you to $900. Not such a hot deal..."On the other hand, minis are one of the few remaining Macs that can be upgraded with only modest effort. Assuming they still have dual SATA connectors inside, you can upgrade the mid-range offering to have a fusion drive for less than $100 and a couple hours of your time.
Glaurung - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
OTOH, they may have finally deleted the second SATA port, in which case, DIY upgrading just got more complicated -- you'd need to source a compatible PCI-e SSD, and it probably won't be cheap.Glaurung - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
"Still no SSD standard"Correction: The retina Imac comes with a 1tb fusion drive standard, so that's a 128gb SSD mated to a 1tb hard drive.
TiGr1982 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I guess, he meant "still no PURE SSD standard" - not a fusion drive, but just only SSD with no HDD at all, as for recent MBPs.Glaurung - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
"not a fusion drive, but just only SSD with no HDD at all, as for recent MBPs."ON a laptop, I can see sacrificing lots of storage for the speed of an SSD, or paying through the nose for a 1tb SSD if you really need to have a big fast drive. On a desktop, paying $400 (more if you're getting it from Apple) for a huge SSD makes no sense whatsoever -- the fusion drive gives you 90% of the speed of an SSD for less than half the cost.
TiGr1982 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I fully agree with you from the price/performance point of view;I just guessed what was meant in the Live Blog by its author (Ryan).
For the desktop (here: big all-in-one iMac 27 inch), of course, it makes much more sense to combine SSD and HDD.
kmmatney - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
That's all you would need for a desktop. I'm have 2 systems at home using Seagate Momentus XTs, with 4GB SSD caches, and they work quite well. I think a 128GB SSD cache should perform pretty close to an SSD.TiGr1982 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I had a laptop with Seagate Momentus XT 750 GB with 8 GB cache (it still works, just gave it away to friends); indeed, this storage type (now called SSHD by Seagate) is a reasonable compromise between speed, storage capacity and price.Eidigean - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Very disappointed that the iMac comes with AMD radeon graphics. With the release of the NVIDIA GTX 980M I was hoping Apple would switch; however, the max resolution of the 980M is 3840x2160 and the new iMac is 5120x2880 so that may have been the deciding factor.kmmatney - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Also, power efficiency doesn't matter so much for the iMac...kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
But 970M/980M not only more power efficient, they're also more powerful.Eidigean - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I'd prefer they put a desktop grade GTX 980 in the iMac instead of a mobile part, though I think they care more about acoustics than performance. Probably too loud to keep it cool.TiGr1982 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Right, but, talking 3D gaming, iMac is not really a gaming solution in the first place, AFAIU, so this GPU choice should be OK, probably.But no CUDA this time (since the GPU is from AMD) may be a downside for some amount of people, probably.
eanazag - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Another integration win for AMD. I don't know how they're doing it. I am glad they are winning somewhere. Again, they're graphics unit is keeping them relevant. I am curious about the AMD M295X.Though I am surprised that Nvidia is not getting any wins with GPUs outside of laptops. Would love to see a mobile GPU comparison of performance red vs. green in the 4K+ segment. Maybe we can find an answer there.
kron123456789 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
AMD's GPUs are just cheaper. It doesn't make them better.ArthurG - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
so a 3 billion transistors SoC on 20nm process that is barely same level as 1b Tegra K1 on 28nm ? In other words, 3 times more transistors on a better process for this "little" performance ? Where all this silicon is used for ? color me unimpressed...Aenean144 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Not much known about either SoCs at this point. There's a Geekbench result for the HTC Volantis, maybe a pre-production version of the Nexus 9, with pretty impressive results. Looks like the A6X effectively will nuke Denver K1 buzz as top dog if the 1.4x CPU and 2.5x GPU marketing holds.It does mean that Nvidia has to move faster if they want more wins in the phone and tablet space. They are competing against Qualcomm and Samsung and MediaTek and who knows who else, not Apple. If Denver is really good, we should see them in more tablets soon.
lucam - Saturday, October 18, 2014 - link
3 billion and it is much power saving than Tegra k1 where the latter has less transistor. Tegra K1 doesn't have an efficient design for sure.renstein - Sunday, October 19, 2014 - link
The extra silicon is used for a variety of other things, hardware video decoders, camera ISP, encrypted storage for TouchID. Most likely about half the transistors are not dedicated to the processor/GPU. When you look at the A8 pictures, that's the way it is. Also, Apple purposefully keeps a low clock rate on their CPUs to try and allow them to run closer to max capacity without throttling down so much.KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
The iPad Mini 3 makes no sense. $100 for TouchID and no other improvements? Terrible.Save your money and get the Mini 2, the Air, or bump up to the Air 2.
GC2:CS - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Maybe an full sRGB color gamut ? That would be a nice upgrade...But even then, this iPad mini 3 looks like tha iPad 3 which quickly brought up an improtant feature and then being replaced 6 months later. An 6,1 mm iPad mini with ~300 g weight, A8X full sRGB and super low reflectivity screen is just too tempting idea.
Bob Todd - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
Agreed. It doesn't even get the new display features of its bigger brother. Phoned in margin maker for Apple.worldbfree4me - Thursday, October 16, 2014 - link
I don't get it! Why not just announce a price cut for the iPad Mini 2 and iPad Air and make it a Mac event. My iPhone 6 plus can do everything the Mini 3 can do and ditto my iPad Air less the Gold ionization! Nothing to see here..Deelron - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
I agree on the Mini, but the iPad Air actually got a notable processor/graphic/memory/camera/screen upgrade. That is definitely something to see.Kutark - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
Thank you for putting the huge apple symbol on the front of this article so i knew not to waste time reading it.dmacfour - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
And then you proceeded to waste time commenting on it. LOLAndrewJacksonZA - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
It must suck to be Dell. They announced this a month ago & no one cared:http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/05/dell-5k-displa...
via @rmaclean - https://twitter.com/rmaclean/status/52284706328621...
AnnonymousCoward - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
So now their 218 PPI screen is "Retina"? It's a dumb name anyway, since retinas sense light, and the screen isn't doing any sensing!Is that box really the "world's most efficient"? What about an Atom-based box like an EEE? And does their box even have any USB ports? What's the video port?
$2500 for that desktop--are you insane?
So there's no new Crapbook Pro in the lineup?
225M iPads--damn, that's over $100B.
SirKnobsworth - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
The Mac Mini has 4 usb 3.0 ports and HDMI and ThunderBolt (DisplayPort) for video.techconc - Friday, October 17, 2014 - link
"Retina" is a factor of both PPI and distance. People don't sit as close to their desktop as they do with their phones.Also, you seem to have an issue with the price. Yet, can you demonstrate an alternative that matches that display size / quality for the same or less? Go ahead... even try to build your own for that kind of money. Let's see what you come up with.... ...crickets....
AnnonymousCoward - Saturday, October 18, 2014 - link
Screen: http://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q2770PQU-27-Inch-2560x14...Box: $250 Dell
There, you have a $700 machine that works just as well as Apple's $2500 for 90% of people. And the screen actually has height and pivot adjustment.
solipsism - Sunday, October 19, 2014 - link
Apple has a 5K display option for $2,500 iMac which you irrational shit on and your replay to techconc's reasonable reply is to mention a $250 Dell display without any consideration of potential uses for a 5K display or Dell's very own $2,500 display (only) that has yet to ship. Pathetic.AnnonymousCoward - Sunday, October 19, 2014 - link
Uh no, I didn't mention a $250 Dell display.And btw Dell already has a 4K $2500 display shipping. It's 32"; 40% larger than the iMac's 27".
Most people probably buy an iMac because it's an all-in-one, and not because of its unique screen. Most people probably also sit the display far enough back from their eyes that the extra PPI doesn't make that much of a difference.
dmacfour - Monday, October 20, 2014 - link
"Most people probably buy an iMac because it's an all-in-one, and not because of its unique screen."Do you have any data to support this? It seems to me that iMacs are targeted towards people in visual design professions. Apple is giving people a bonus computer for the same price as a Dell 5k monitor.
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