seriously rob, you state you want this as a generic standard and that fine and good, but why does intel and the others OC refer to the likes of charles supermicro as "the customer" , while its true he gets through a mass of product, at the end of the day you forget the the unwashed/consumers on mass go to Charles because he stocks your products and wraps it in lots of excess redundant steel (once it's in the rack it pretty much stays there) and calls it professional grade etc....
do you both have ANY thought to the mass consumer that wants a 10GbE NAS and related routers that comes with professional options (generic x2+ v-ethernet bonding ,at a good consumer price for the world home/SOHO markets crying out for better than 1Gbe for more than a decade...
hell even your basic empty steel 4 drive NAS is way over priced for the home SOHO markets, i want to buy products but you are pricing Even the base package Cost of ownership way to high after more than a decade ....
and while im at it rob/charles id really like to see a cost reduced (make your profit up on bulk kit sales for simple silicon-photonics dasychaining ) 2 and 4 port version of your Intel-based Optical PCI Express* (OPCIe*) http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/research/in... , preferably with a virtual device driver that both carries Ethernet over Si photonics AND pools all the RAM (and collective cores)on all OPCIe* connected x86/64 PCs in to one virtual x264 highest visual quality pro encoder for instance, you can sell lots into the up and coming UHD web streaming stations around the world and subsidize the little guy at home/SOHO advocating your products by word of mouth because they work and are affordable, not because they are just about good enough until next quarter/cycle.
anyway consider the worlds consumers before you sell exclusive to apple etc if you want a mass market to grow into the 10Gbit/12Gb/40Gb+ world consumer LAN markets
I don't really fell comfortable with you, Anand, doing some kind of infomercial video like that, which doesn't tell us much about NVMe (the review still does a good job, but some could question your integrit) and for which you probably got paid by Intel to do so.
Right on the same day you publish the review (it does seem like a very good product), but some could question your integrity. I myself, even though I still find the review to be partial (it is a great SSD after all) feel like this is a bit shady.
i dont see a problem here , sure intel want to get some coverage on a ipay day , so anand gets to read a pre interview we are asking this and giving that answer , stay away from x , what matters is if intel and supermicro are going to read this and answer the real questions you might add here as i did, theres lots more i want to ask but for now the above is fine...
I have a question for Intel, now that we will start seeing PCIe based storage in masse, can we expect to see more PCIe lanes, especially on the consumer lines that have essentially always only had 16 lanes? I could even see needing more than 40 lanes with several drives in an enterprize setup.
+10 - I'm freaking sick and tired of figuring out how to buy a system with enough PCIe lanes. Yes a basic desktop for web surfing gets by on what they are doing already, but that desktop market is shrinking or gone. PCIe lanes are where the desktop market needs to be. All the review Z97 boards have awful complications with M2 and SATAExpress because Intel was being cheap on PCIe. PLX is a shatty solution for anything going forward. X79 chipset at $300+ motherboards with a single proc is not a solution for 5 years. Intel goes and produces Thunderbolt and any meaningful growth for that is held back bya lack of PCIe lanes in desktop and mobile.
If AMD wasn't also 3 years behind in CPU performance, I would not complain and just buy from them. Pick your poison.
I really think you guys should get someone to help run the AnandTech podcast because I really think they are great and it's fun and insightful to listen to you guys talk about what's currently happening in the Computer and CPU / GPU industry. Even if it's just Anand and Brian (is he still around?) or whoever, spit-balling on the week's industry news and analysis. You could even make a business out of it by getting a few sponsors!!
Anyways, just letting Anand and the editors know that I'm going through withdrawals of not receiving any new AnandTech podcasts and it would be great to see it become a regular thing! :-)
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BMNify - Tuesday, June 3, 2014 - link
seriously rob, you state you want this as a generic standard and that fine and good, but why does intel and the others OC refer to the likes of charles supermicro as "the customer" , while its true he gets through a mass of product, at the end of the day you forget the the unwashed/consumers on mass go to Charles because he stocks your products and wraps it in lots of excess redundant steel (once it's in the rack it pretty much stays there) and calls it professional grade etc....do you both have ANY thought to the mass consumer that wants a 10GbE NAS and related routers that comes with professional options (generic x2+ v-ethernet bonding ,at a good consumer price for the world home/SOHO markets crying out for better than 1Gbe for more than a decade...
hell even your basic empty steel 4 drive NAS is way over priced for the home SOHO markets, i want to buy products but you are pricing Even the base package Cost of ownership way to high after more than a decade ....
and while im at it rob/charles id really like to see a cost reduced (make your profit up on bulk kit sales for simple silicon-photonics dasychaining ) 2 and 4 port version of your Intel-based Optical PCI Express* (OPCIe*) http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/research/in... , preferably with a virtual device driver that both carries Ethernet over Si photonics AND pools all the RAM (and collective cores)on all OPCIe* connected x86/64 PCs in to one virtual x264 highest visual quality pro encoder for instance, you can sell lots into the up and coming UHD web streaming stations around the world and subsidize the little guy at home/SOHO advocating your products by word of mouth because they work and are affordable, not because they are just about good enough until next quarter/cycle.
anyway consider the worlds consumers before you sell exclusive to apple etc if you want a mass market to grow into the 10Gbit/12Gb/40Gb+ world consumer LAN markets
gregounech - Tuesday, June 3, 2014 - link
I don't really fell comfortable with you, Anand, doing some kind of infomercial video like that, which doesn't tell us much about NVMe (the review still does a good job, but some could question your integrit) and for which you probably got paid by Intel to do so.Right on the same day you publish the review (it does seem like a very good product), but some could question your integrity. I myself, even though I still find the review to be partial (it is a great SSD after all) feel like this is a bit shady.
My 2 cents,
Gregounech
gregounech - Tuesday, June 3, 2014 - link
Typo in first sentence -> fell = feel.BMNify - Tuesday, June 3, 2014 - link
i dont see a problem here , sure intel want to get some coverage on a ipay day , so anand gets to read a pre interview we are asking this and giving that answer , stay away from x , what matters is if intel and supermicro are going to read this and answer the real questions you might add here as i did, theres lots more i want to ask but for now the above is fine...Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, June 3, 2014 - link
Both links are broken. They point right back to this page.extide - Tuesday, June 3, 2014 - link
I have a question for Intel, now that we will start seeing PCIe based storage in masse, can we expect to see more PCIe lanes, especially on the consumer lines that have essentially always only had 16 lanes? I could even see needing more than 40 lanes with several drives in an enterprize setup.eanazag - Tuesday, June 3, 2014 - link
+10 - I'm freaking sick and tired of figuring out how to buy a system with enough PCIe lanes. Yes a basic desktop for web surfing gets by on what they are doing already, but that desktop market is shrinking or gone. PCIe lanes are where the desktop market needs to be. All the review Z97 boards have awful complications with M2 and SATAExpress because Intel was being cheap on PCIe. PLX is a shatty solution for anything going forward. X79 chipset at $300+ motherboards with a single proc is not a solution for 5 years. Intel goes and produces Thunderbolt and any meaningful growth for that is held back bya lack of PCIe lanes in desktop and mobile.If AMD wasn't also 3 years behind in CPU performance, I would not complain and just buy from them. Pick your poison.
Dman23 - Wednesday, June 4, 2014 - link
When are you guys going to post another AnandTech Podcast?!?!! It's been like FOREVER since the last one.Dman23 - Wednesday, June 4, 2014 - link
I really think you guys should get someone to help run the AnandTech podcast because I really think they are great and it's fun and insightful to listen to you guys talk about what's currently happening in the Computer and CPU / GPU industry. Even if it's just Anand and Brian (is he still around?) or whoever, spit-balling on the week's industry news and analysis. You could even make a business out of it by getting a few sponsors!!Anyways, just letting Anand and the editors know that I'm going through withdrawals of not receiving any new AnandTech podcasts and it would be great to see it become a regular thing! :-)
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Oh my god! What a fantastic discussion it was. I loved the way you speak with me :)Rose,
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