Better grab one while it's still at MSRP. Cheapest price for an R9 270 in stock is $229.99. I don't doubt the R7 265 will also creep up from $150.00 once the initial batch sells out.
No doubt! It does represent a pretty good value for a budget gaming rig. Err, or it did until they sold out. Hopefully for those interested more will ship out shortly.
Its sad that we have to rush to buy these GPUs, not because you want to be the first owner anymore its because if you miss a second you might end up paying a lot more than what you should be paying. LTcoin mining has become a huge problem for us gamers.
Just wait till the boom is over, the market will be flooded with 2nd hand GPUs that will either be super cheap or may effect enough of the market to actually lower the prices at the retailers.
Don't worry, it won't be a big problem for much longer. People are buying thousands of the new ASICS for scrypt mining. It's now possible to get a setup that churns out 3mh/s for on the order of $2,500 and 100 watts. When the difficulty goes through the roof it's going to bork the whole GPU mining craze and we'll have plenty of cards available. I just hope that Sapphire waits a little longer to release it's newer R9 290X's.
Search terms like LightningASIC, unicorn hasher, Gridseed 5... Google is your lover. Cost per 100kh/s should drop below $100 with the new firmware that's available. There's also a company called ZoomHash out in California which supplies the Gridseed's stateside.
" It's now possible to get a setup that churns out 3mh/s for on the order of $2,500 and 100 watts."
That's actually not all that impressive. Even at today's inflated prices, you can buy a R9 270 for about $210. That gives ~450 KH/sec when tuned. Add about $500-$600 in supplies (mobo, CPU, powered risers, PSUs) and you've got a setup that does 2.7 MH/sec for about $1800. That's ~67 cents per KH/sec. The ASIC setup you describe costs ~81 cents per KH/sec. Yes, the power costs are lower, but if your electricity rates are not that high, it might take quite some time to pay back the difference. The ASICs aren't outclassing the GPUs by orders of magnitude, like they do with SHA-256.
Well, definitely the investment to get running up front will be greater but that's part of the cost the first adopters have to pay for miners that use so much less power. Incidentally, they've been able to squeeze anywhere from 450 to 700kh/s from the same ASIC units just by changing the firmware. 5-6mh/s for $2,500 and 100 watts sounds pretty damn good to me. Plus, it's easier to set up than a PC produces far less heat and doesn't even need any fans. For people with special circumstances who don't have to pay for power and have plenty of space I guess it may not be much of an advantage using these but still... I really see this as the beginning of the end and it mirrors what happened with bitcoin. Apparently he is working on a 12mh/s set and if what someone else at bitcointalk forums said about this guy making $600,000 in little more than a month selling these things you better believe it when they say he's working on putting 100 of these gridseeds on a single PCB and selling them in rackmount units. My guess is that there will be a consolidation of the altcoin markets in the next few months and as the joke coins start to die off more and more money and hashing power will flow into the few left standing like Litecoin or Worldcoin. That's when the writing will definitely be on the wall.
I currently have the A10-7850k running without help of a dedicated card. For an iGPU, it's doing an amazing job; especially with my gskill ripjaws z 2400MHz RAM. Combined with an ASUS a88xm-a, this thing is rock solid. The r7 250 would really help to make this the ultimate budget system.
I managed to get a super secret link from amazon(not really), its listed for $170 which i find fine for the extra premium of the aftermarket coolers, its not like we should be expecting them to be exactly at $150...
Yup I expected the 265 to vanish in a day, local store here got 10 units and they all disappeared in a matter of hours. I got a 750Ti for $150 and it's a great card for mid-range with amazing low power consumption, though seems the 265 outshines it in most games but I already have an R9 280X in one PC, suppose the 750Ti ever dies I may look at the 265 or 270.
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RaistlinZ - Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - link
Better grab one while it's still at MSRP. Cheapest price for an R9 270 in stock is $229.99. I don't doubt the R7 265 will also creep up from $150.00 once the initial batch sells out.JDG1980 - Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - link
Aaaaannnnnd it's gone. Big surprise...Alexvrb - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
No doubt! It does represent a pretty good value for a budget gaming rig. Err, or it did until they sold out. Hopefully for those interested more will ship out shortly.Shrogadunter - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Went to add it to my cart and it decided to become imaginary....fuminers - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Its sad that we have to rush to buy these GPUs, not because you want to be the first owner anymore its because if you miss a second you might end up paying a lot more than what you should be paying. LTcoin mining has become a huge problem for us gamers.Aknosis - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Just wait till the boom is over, the market will be flooded with 2nd hand GPUs that will either be super cheap or may effect enough of the market to actually lower the prices at the retailers.bendermichaelr - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Yeah but who wants a GPU that's already 90% through it's useful life because of being run 24/7Magichands8 - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Don't worry, it won't be a big problem for much longer. People are buying thousands of the new ASICS for scrypt mining. It's now possible to get a setup that churns out 3mh/s for on the order of $2,500 and 100 watts. When the difficulty goes through the roof it's going to bork the whole GPU mining craze and we'll have plenty of cards available. I just hope that Sapphire waits a little longer to release it's newer R9 290X's.extide - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Link to such scrypt asics?Magichands8 - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Here's his main thread (asiabtc/Jack):https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421921.0
And the main Gridseed asic site:
http://www.gridseed.com/main.php
Search terms like LightningASIC, unicorn hasher, Gridseed 5... Google is your lover. Cost per 100kh/s should drop below $100 with the new firmware that's available. There's also a company called ZoomHash out in California which supplies the Gridseed's stateside.
JDG1980 - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
" It's now possible to get a setup that churns out 3mh/s for on the order of $2,500 and 100 watts."That's actually not all that impressive. Even at today's inflated prices, you can buy a R9 270 for about $210. That gives ~450 KH/sec when tuned. Add about $500-$600 in supplies (mobo, CPU, powered risers, PSUs) and you've got a setup that does 2.7 MH/sec for about $1800. That's ~67 cents per KH/sec. The ASIC setup you describe costs ~81 cents per KH/sec. Yes, the power costs are lower, but if your electricity rates are not that high, it might take quite some time to pay back the difference. The ASICs aren't outclassing the GPUs by orders of magnitude, like they do with SHA-256.
Magichands8 - Friday, March 7, 2014 - link
Well, definitely the investment to get running up front will be greater but that's part of the cost the first adopters have to pay for miners that use so much less power. Incidentally, they've been able to squeeze anywhere from 450 to 700kh/s from the same ASIC units just by changing the firmware. 5-6mh/s for $2,500 and 100 watts sounds pretty damn good to me. Plus, it's easier to set up than a PC produces far less heat and doesn't even need any fans. For people with special circumstances who don't have to pay for power and have plenty of space I guess it may not be much of an advantage using these but still... I really see this as the beginning of the end and it mirrors what happened with bitcoin. Apparently he is working on a 12mh/s set and if what someone else at bitcointalk forums said about this guy making $600,000 in little more than a month selling these things you better believe it when they say he's working on putting 100 of these gridseeds on a single PCB and selling them in rackmount units. My guess is that there will be a consolidation of the altcoin markets in the next few months and as the joke coins start to die off more and more money and hashing power will flow into the few left standing like Litecoin or Worldcoin. That's when the writing will definitely be on the wall.boot318 - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
I can smell the Newegg 'morning meeting' right now.... I hope we see this and other models at MSRP when they're in stock.johnny_boy - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
Still waiting for this bad boy to hit Europe. Think I might just drop a few extra bucks for a 270 if the wait becomes too looooooong.bendermichaelr - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
I NEED IT! PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEEEEEEEI currently have the A10-7850k running without help of a dedicated card. For an iGPU, it's doing an amazing job; especially with my gskill ripjaws z 2400MHz RAM. Combined with an ASUS a88xm-a, this thing is rock solid. The r7 250 would really help to make this the ultimate budget system.
bendermichaelr - Thursday, March 6, 2014 - link
SORRY Wrong threadfuminers - Friday, March 7, 2014 - link
I managed to get a super secret link from amazon(not really), its listed for $170 which i find fine for the extra premium of the aftermarket coolers, its not like we should be expecting them to be exactly at $150...http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IU34RNU
grab yours before its late or at least keep an eye on it for when it gets available.
Teknobug - Friday, March 7, 2014 - link
Yup I expected the 265 to vanish in a day, local store here got 10 units and they all disappeared in a matter of hours. I got a 750Ti for $150 and it's a great card for mid-range with amazing low power consumption, though seems the 265 outshines it in most games but I already have an R9 280X in one PC, suppose the 750Ti ever dies I may look at the 265 or 270.Wakalaka - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link
has anyone seen r7 265 on sale since march 5th? never could find them on any site except newegg, and it has been out of stock since.