It was just a matter of time; it takes some time to catalog these mobile shows and package them as podcasts. The podcast version (with time indices) has just been published.
Does having the audio only download affect how the metrics work in terms of revenue/popularity? Or will it continue to be provided as a "do the right thing and the people will come" mentality?
I don't want to put words in Anand's mouth, but when it comes to the last couple of mobile shows we've been at said trade show, which makes it difficult to get the time to also push a podcast out the door.
I much prefer video since I like to watch expressions as well as listen, but then I'm rarely mobile when I'm enjoying a podcast.
I don't have either a smart phone or tablet - or any other kind of mobile device - is it really such a problem to play a video on them and just listen to the podcast without watching it? Or is this just a data usage problem, mobile users dipping into their data plan allotment need as small a file as they can get?
The other thing is, a podcast is downloaded beforehand and listened to whenever, unlike a youtube stream, so we can get the podcast on WiFi and listen later. To my knowledge, there is not a video version available as a podcast, so it must be an iTunes/re-editing time issue.
I barely watch TV, let alone watch for "expressions" in a video that is basically just a couple of guys sitting in chairs talking to each other. I listen to my podcasts while working out (jogging, stairs, etc) and download the mp3. Having a video would mean the screen stays on, burning through my battery.
It is only interesting if Intel can implement a super-fast 64bit SoC with cutting edge gpu. For them targetting the mid-range then moving downwards seemed like a losing proposition as ARM keeps edging forward on the high-end mobile and tablet while its Eastern partners eats away the mid-range to low-end phones and tablets. If Nvidia can do a successful comeback this year, the field is going to get much much harder for Intel. Intel should look into licensing the K1 core for its BayTrail chips just to ensure that Android x64 can survive or maybe thrive in future. At the rate Arm is catching up, it has a better chance of leading by a wider margin!.
It's only a matter of power consumption. In this moment BayTrail is well enough for Intel proposals, it has a tiny power draw, a long battery life without many battery cells, a good Cpu performance and a SnapDragon 600 class GPU. It is the perfect SOC for slim Tablets and, in few months from now, slim and well portable phones. The competitors are in a crazy game doing powerful SOCs yes !!! but very power hungry and pretty expensive to manufacture. IMO Snap 800, Snap 805, Tegra K1 all run out of gas in 28nm, their 5-7W power figure is a bad affair in handset and in tablet space too; all devices Snap 800 equipped are a disaster under load, their battery goes to the hell in a short time. Tegra K1 obviously will be another failure for Nvidia, clearly it is a 20nm thinked device done in 28nm because TSMC is very very late....unfortunately, i cannot think about a serious mobile device this this little nuclear reactor in. Intel will do a lot better in 14nm, especially in GPU.
What a huge talent Anand have for that ! Impressive. Welcome to CNN. lol.
I really like how he is able pose follow up questions, and the general speed of it. And an inviting body language :) - just saw 8 min, looking forward to the rest. Could personalle use a more critical approach but thats probably a matter of taste and cultural differences. And i know its a difficult balance.
I don't usually watch much videos instead of reading, but there's something soothing about seeing two guys chatter about computer stuff. And with ties to boot! ;)
The audio was too low, at least on my laptop. It's not the ideal sound machine, but most things are perfectly audible on it.
Like this type of video. Very informative and easier to discuss than trying to type it up with the same kind of details done verbally, IMHO. I would watch more of these kinds of reviews/news if you had them available. I don't usually follow the regular podcasts, but haven't really had too much time to listen to them. This video I just happened to see and had the time to view (at work :)).
Amazing show as always guys. It's nice to see nvidia finally devoting more die space to better suited cores at (hopefully) respective speeds, and hope that all other manufacturers follow suit. Lookinf forward to some real-world usage tests on those Denver and Kepler cores.
With all these claims that SoC GPUs are getting close to or surpassing in some ways the PS360 GPUs, what about the CPU side of it? It seems like CPUs would take longer to get there than GPUs. And I agree that part of the limitation is controls, which is why I wish good wraparound controllers existed, to make phones and tablets a bit like the Wii U tablet controller. I think storage is also a bottleneck, after controls. Console games were hitting the limits of DVD-9 regularly, and tablets and phones still start at 8-16GB.
Really enjoyed this podcast. You guys are like the most knowledgeable out there. There are so many people in the industry but not many of them are as knowledgeable as you guys. So that really makes it interesting when you guys talk. Keep it up! Love the format too! You guys don't overcomplicate things!
We’ve updated our terms. By continuing to use the site and/or by logging into your account, you agree to the Site’s updated Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.
Facebook
Twitter
RSS
25 Comments
Back to Article
Pfffman - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Excellent. Will check out after work.Anand, is there any news/update on getting a audio only version? Are there background reasons why they haven't been made available?
Ryan Smith - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
It was just a matter of time; it takes some time to catalog these mobile shows and package them as podcasts. The podcast version (with time indices) has just been published.http://www.anandtech.com/show/7666/the-anandtech-p...
Pfffman - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
Excellent, thanks very much :DDoes having the audio only download affect how the metrics work in terms of revenue/popularity? Or will it continue to be provided as a "do the right thing and the people will come" mentality?
Ryan Smith - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
I don't want to put words in Anand's mouth, but when it comes to the last couple of mobile shows we've been at said trade show, which makes it difficult to get the time to also push a podcast out the door.Pfffman - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
Yep I can appreciate that Anand is usually pressed for time. Awesome to have it this time around.My question didn't really get answered but I guess that information might not be available to share.
sherlockwing - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Have to say I prefer the audio only version as podcasts, much easier to listen when I am on the move.Sabresiberian - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
I much prefer video since I like to watch expressions as well as listen, but then I'm rarely mobile when I'm enjoying a podcast.I don't have either a smart phone or tablet - or any other kind of mobile device - is it really such a problem to play a video on them and just listen to the podcast without watching it? Or is this just a data usage problem, mobile users dipping into their data plan allotment need as small a file as they can get?
sherlockwing - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
A video podcast is completely frivolous and a waste of space when I am listening to it while driving.freedom4556 - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
Yeah, I listen to these on my commute, and a video version would be a waste (mostly of cellular data, grrrr AT&T).freedom4556 - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
The other thing is, a podcast is downloaded beforehand and listened to whenever, unlike a youtube stream, so we can get the podcast on WiFi and listen later. To my knowledge, there is not a video version available as a podcast, so it must be an iTunes/re-editing time issue.Kimdotno - Thursday, January 16, 2014 - link
Let me fix that for you: download an addon such as "1-click youtube video downloader" and save it as an audio file. Solved.Tanclearas - Monday, January 20, 2014 - link
I barely watch TV, let alone watch for "expressions" in a video that is basically just a couple of guys sitting in chairs talking to each other. I listen to my podcasts while working out (jogging, stairs, etc) and download the mp3. Having a video would mean the screen stays on, burning through my battery.hypopraxia - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
+1 for super-duper-cores.next-next-gen: mondo-mega-super-fast-cores
fteoath64 - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
It is only interesting if Intel can implement a super-fast 64bit SoC with cutting edge gpu. For them targetting the mid-range then moving downwards seemed like a losing proposition as ARM keeps edging forward on the high-end mobile and tablet while its Eastern partners eats away the mid-range to low-end phones and tablets.If Nvidia can do a successful comeback this year, the field is going to get much much harder for Intel. Intel should look into licensing the K1 core for its BayTrail chips just to ensure that Android x64 can survive or maybe thrive in future. At the rate Arm is catching up, it has a better chance of leading by a wider margin!.
Gondalf - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
It's only a matter of power consumption.In this moment BayTrail is well enough for Intel proposals, it has a tiny power draw, a long battery life without many battery cells, a good Cpu performance and a SnapDragon 600 class GPU. It is the perfect SOC for slim Tablets and, in few months from now, slim and well portable phones.
The competitors are in a crazy game doing powerful SOCs yes !!! but very power hungry and pretty expensive to manufacture. IMO Snap 800, Snap 805, Tegra K1 all run out of gas in 28nm, their 5-7W power figure is a bad affair in handset and in tablet space too; all devices Snap 800 equipped are a disaster under load, their battery goes to the hell in a short time.
Tegra K1 obviously will be another failure for Nvidia, clearly it is a 20nm thinked device done in 28nm because TSMC is very very late....unfortunately, i cannot think about a serious mobile device this this little nuclear reactor in.
Intel will do a lot better in 14nm, especially in GPU.
tipoo - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
It ain't hardcore until it's hexacore, son.krumme - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
What a huge talent Anand have for that !Impressive. Welcome to CNN. lol.
I really like how he is able pose follow up questions, and the general speed of it. And an inviting body language :) - just saw 8 min, looking forward to the rest. Could personalle use a more critical approach but thats probably a matter of taste and cultural differences. And i know its a difficult balance.
sheh - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
Thanks.I don't usually watch much videos instead of reading, but there's something soothing about seeing two guys chatter about computer stuff. And with ties to boot! ;)
The audio was too low, at least on my laptop. It's not the ideal sound machine, but most things are perfectly audible on it.
Lunyone - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
Like this type of video. Very informative and easier to discuss than trying to type it up with the same kind of details done verbally, IMHO. I would watch more of these kinds of reviews/news if you had them available. I don't usually follow the regular podcasts, but haven't really had too much time to listen to them. This video I just happened to see and had the time to view (at work :)).tipoo - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
But one question remains unanswered, is Anand wearing the Vibram Five Fingers?melgross - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
I prefer a choice, because sometimes they want to actually show something. I find it's more difficult to see it with just a voice feed.Drunk Muffin - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
Amazing show as always guys.It's nice to see nvidia finally devoting more die space to better suited cores at (hopefully) respective speeds, and hope that all other manufacturers follow suit. Lookinf forward to some real-world usage tests on those Denver and Kepler cores.
tipoo - Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - link
With all these claims that SoC GPUs are getting close to or surpassing in some ways the PS360 GPUs, what about the CPU side of it? It seems like CPUs would take longer to get there than GPUs.And I agree that part of the limitation is controls, which is why I wish good wraparound controllers existed, to make phones and tablets a bit like the Wii U tablet controller. I think storage is also a bottleneck, after controls. Console games were hitting the limits of DVD-9 regularly, and tablets and phones still start at 8-16GB.
Kenneth Qvarfordt - Thursday, January 16, 2014 - link
Really enjoyed this podcast. You guys are like the most knowledgeable out there. There are so many people in the industry but not many of them are as knowledgeable as you guys. So that really makes it interesting when you guys talk. Keep it up! Love the format too! You guys don't overcomplicate things!Polizei608 - Sunday, February 2, 2014 - link
Fantastic video, great to hear about what's on the horizon and love the banter. A+ job as always guys