thank you for covering this anandtech i know not everyone watercools but for some of us enthusiasts this is news we are actually interested in more than a lot of other things most websites cover (mobile stuff and tablet stuff)
im really interested in the new MCP50X pump if it is quiet (hopefully quieter than the 35X) as i have been adding quite a few things to my loop lately and i think it could probably do with some more pumping power
Yes, it is definitely quieter than the MCP35X -- I couldn't say how much quieter precisely, as there was too much noise in the suite, but all indications are that the new pump is better in every way.
Thanks Jarred for covering this, a news post that's going back to Anandtech's overclocking roots :-) I have one small correction though: The H220 does not use quick disconnect valves, but just the standard tubing and fittings that are used in custom watercooling loops. Unlike the Asetek and CoolIT coolers sold by Corsair, Antec etc. whose turnings aren't removable, the Swiftech (and Coolermaster Glacer, which is a rebrand) can thus relatively easily be expanded to also cool graphics cards using standard parts. Real quick disconnects that prevent coolant from spilling when opening up the loop would increase the price of the kit too much and most people wouldn't really need them.
Swiftech is the one of the worst companies I have ever dealt with. Their MCP35X pumps have quality control issues, And I have a couple burned out within less than 48 hours. They will find all sorts of excuses to deny your RMA.
Those in the pictures are not quick disconnect / compression fittings either, They are just tubbing over barbs with metal clamps, Which is pretty outdated in the water cooling community.
Click on a picture and scroll further back to see the black chrome Swiftech Lok-Seal quick disconnects. The H220X has G1/4" swivel barbs, which can be removed to install G1/4" fittings. The only other AIO that does this is the Cooler Master Eisberg, which is more expensive and generally louder.
Maybe "outdated" in $300+ water cooling loops, but for AIOs price is a concern and using $20+ retail worth of compression in a $149 AIO thus making it $165+ just doesn't make sense since the fittings have absolutely no impact on performance. Having custom watercooling-like performance at the lowest possible price is the point of the H220(X), so their decision to go with "outdated" barbs and clamps is exactly right. These units aren't about maximum bling but value.
The point of H220 is customizable or even expandable, With barb and clamps it's a pain on the butt. You might as well get AIO like H80i/H100i to save all the trouble, Cheaper and more compact.
I don't know who you dealt with in your RMA process, the situation at the time, or when it was done, but this certainly isn't my experience with Swiftech at all. I have dealt with them on numerous occasions for various questions, issues, etc., and always got a swift response and resolve. This is also the case for lots of people who have had issues with the H220s, as seen in the H220 owners' club on OCN, which I've observed every post and responded to many since its inception.
If you are in the water cooling community for a while, You'd know way too many MCP35X died prematurely for no good reasons. You can even go check on reviews on frozencpu.com. Mine died overnight during leak testing, Called tech support and spoke to some Indian guy, gave serial number and was told it was not covered under warranty because of shelf time. Seriously?
I've had Swiftech stuff before, but with this it seems as if they haven't fixed the issue that these things suffer from.. Pump noise, again it looks like (from that image) as if the pump is just simply hard mounted into the radiator with no dampening at all even. It's just going to be loud and create vibrations.
In future i will likely just get a mini case and house all watercooling gear in it externally where the pump can properly be decoupled, and with quick disconnects.
Really surprised Swiftech hasn't seem to have done anything different with the pump.. Low noise is a #1 benefit of watercooling. I know the RPM's of the pump can be changed, but the fact that it is mounted directly to metal means you'd have to basically set the pump to minimum speeds at least.. even then it wouldn't be as quiet as a properly decoupled pump.
Swiftech is the worst company i know . Send a broken item RMA and they tell you it can't be replaced because of improper use . So turning a little knob for higher rpm on a MCP655 Vario is improper use accrding to them and they tell me this after 4 months . I won't buy any of their things again .
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f0d - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
thank you for covering this anandtechi know not everyone watercools but for some of us enthusiasts this is news we are actually interested in more than a lot of other things most websites cover (mobile stuff and tablet stuff)
im really interested in the new MCP50X pump if it is quiet (hopefully quieter than the 35X) as i have been adding quite a few things to my loop lately and i think it could probably do with some more pumping power
JarredWalton - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Yes, it is definitely quieter than the MCP35X -- I couldn't say how much quieter precisely, as there was too much noise in the suite, but all indications are that the new pump is better in every way.Nickel020 - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Thanks Jarred for covering this, a news post that's going back to Anandtech's overclocking roots :-)I have one small correction though: The H220 does not use quick disconnect valves, but just the standard tubing and fittings that are used in custom watercooling loops. Unlike the Asetek and CoolIT coolers sold by Corsair, Antec etc. whose turnings aren't removable, the Swiftech (and Coolermaster Glacer, which is a rebrand) can thus relatively easily be expanded to also cool graphics cards using standard parts. Real quick disconnects that prevent coolant from spilling when opening up the loop would increase the price of the kit too much and most people wouldn't really need them.
JarredWalton - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Fixed, thanks!Whitereflection - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Swiftech is the one of the worst companies I have ever dealt with. Their MCP35X pumps have quality control issues, And I have a couple burned out within less than 48 hours. They will find all sorts of excuses to deny your RMA.Whitereflection - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Those in the pictures are not quick disconnect / compression fittings either, They are just tubbing over barbs with metal clamps, Which is pretty outdated in the water cooling community.Phelan_z06 - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
Click on a picture and scroll further back to see the black chrome Swiftech Lok-Seal quick disconnects. The H220X has G1/4" swivel barbs, which can be removed to install G1/4" fittings. The only other AIO that does this is the Cooler Master Eisberg, which is more expensive and generally louder.Nickel020 - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
Maybe "outdated" in $300+ water cooling loops, but for AIOs price is a concern and using $20+ retail worth of compression in a $149 AIO thus making it $165+ just doesn't make sense since the fittings have absolutely no impact on performance. Having custom watercooling-like performance at the lowest possible price is the point of the H220(X), so their decision to go with "outdated" barbs and clamps is exactly right. These units aren't about maximum bling but value.Whitereflection - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
The point of H220 is customizable or even expandable, With barb and clamps it's a pain on the butt. You might as well get AIO like H80i/H100i to save all the trouble, Cheaper and more compact.Phelan_z06 - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
I don't know who you dealt with in your RMA process, the situation at the time, or when it was done, but this certainly isn't my experience with Swiftech at all. I have dealt with them on numerous occasions for various questions, issues, etc., and always got a swift response and resolve. This is also the case for lots of people who have had issues with the H220s, as seen in the H220 owners' club on OCN, which I've observed every post and responded to many since its inception.Whitereflection - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
If you are in the water cooling community for a while, You'd know way too many MCP35X died prematurely for no good reasons. You can even go check on reviews on frozencpu.com. Mine died overnight during leak testing, Called tech support and spoke to some Indian guy, gave serial number and was told it was not covered under warranty because of shelf time. Seriously?Reznov - Saturday, February 1, 2014 - link
100 % right !! Excuses to deny your RMA. Better throw away your broken things instead of sending them RMA , waste of money .Perfect_chaos - Sunday, January 12, 2014 - link
I've had Swiftech stuff before, but with this it seems as if they haven't fixed the issue that these things suffer from.. Pump noise, again it looks like (from that image) as if the pump is just simply hard mounted into the radiator with no dampening at all even. It's just going to be loud and create vibrations.In future i will likely just get a mini case and house all watercooling gear in it externally where the pump can properly be decoupled, and with quick disconnects.
Really surprised Swiftech hasn't seem to have done anything different with the pump.. Low noise is a #1 benefit of watercooling. I know the RPM's of the pump can be changed, but the fact that it is mounted directly to metal means you'd have to basically set the pump to minimum speeds at least.. even then it wouldn't be as quiet as a properly decoupled pump.
Reznov - Saturday, February 1, 2014 - link
Swiftech is the worst company i know . Send a broken item RMA and they tell you it can't be replaced because of improper use . So turning a little knob for higher rpm on a MCP655 Vario is improper use accrding to them and they tell me this after 4 months . I won't buy any of their things again .Apnea - Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - link
Having the pump in that location doesn't block the airflow of one of the two fans?