Well it isn't a great price for a regular consumer-grade 2560x1440 these days, when you can buy a good one for under $400. It is maybe justifiable because 1)120Hz IPS (I'm assuming IPS, doesn't actually say so here, if it isn't, the thing is waaaay overpriced), and 2) G-SYNC. I think G-SYNC is estimated to add about $100 to the price of a monitor and 120Hz will add some too, just because it is a "special feature".
Really though, $600 would be reasonable, the only way they can get away with $800 is because we are conditioned in the "Western" parts of the world to paying a higher price.
If it is an IPS, PLS, or AHVA, then the fact that it built for 120Hz would alone justify the price. Plus, you're paying a little extra for a decent warranty and customer service. There are other benefits, but they really don't matter.
You got it totally wrong, prices for electronics are cheaper in most western countries, especially in the US. As a matter of fact Asus, Acer, HTC, MSI, Gigabyte etc. products are usually more expensive in Taiwan than in the US.
Link to a DIY kit for $200 please. You can buy the first asus monitor with it in it for $100 extra, so it's $100. There are a few places extorting high INSTALL fees to put it in for you, but that's not the product's price. 1st adopters always get killed on any new tech.
No, we are conditioned to pay higher prices for two reasons. The products is actually better, or it's a brand new tech everyone wants (sometimes both reasons I guess, like here).
$600 is reasonable to you, but if it sells out, nobody agrees with you right? Having said that, I'll wait for at least 4-5 brands competing because I refuse to be the 1st adopter that gets raped :) Once the shine wears off (next xmas) I'll have tons of choices and much better NON 1st adopter pricing. I paid $600 for a 24 in 2007 and $900 for my Viewsonic PT813 years before (at OEM pricing, because I bought it to DEMO as a reseller you could do this legally, saved $200 or so). So I'm ok with the price, I just want something else and more models to choose from. I'm hoping for 2560x1600. I hate wide crap for games or web pages. I want 16:10 and maybe a shot at 30in for $1000 for xmas (or I hope top end $700 27in, but I'd pay $800 for 16:10 27in).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub... Lowest price of a brand I recognize (acer) is $500. You'd have to GIVE me a Korean monitor to get me to use one. I don't find that junk appealing, nor will I Ebay a monitor :) I still can't believe Ryan thought that was a good idea in 2012 660ti article...ROFL. Catleap's etc from some guy on Ebay? My Visa# to that guy? ROFL. Whatever...To this day he's still pushing this crap as a res tons of people use (lies) and they still are 2% of the market for 1440p+ combined (all resolutions at or above this). It hasn't changed.
I'm actually a little miffed at Asus for not making Windows phones. I mean, I've spent plenty of money on their products for Windows computers, I'd like them to support me in the rest of their devices as well! (I'm not buying a tablet. Sorry, a smart phone is as close as I ever plan to get there - maybe a solution that happens to be convertible, but no outright tablets for me.)
I'd love to see a serious Asus design of a Windows phone. They don't always hit the mark with their products, but they are always interesting.
I've never heard of a 1440p 27inch panel that wasn't either IPS, PLS, or AHVA, and $800 bucks is pretty average for such a display. The G-sync and 120Hz might make it seem like it should be more, but my guess is that as a gaming monitor, it won't have any fancy features like hardware calibration support or factory calibration presets (because obviously gamers care nothing for image quality, right?). There have also been some 28 inch 4k displays announced for around this price, so I imagine that might have an influence on pricing as well.
Yeah 1440P IPS started at $800 a few years ago, only in the last few years with the cheap Korean panels has this dropped substantially. Like anything, new tech introduces a price spike, there's a lot to like on this panel but I still want to see if there's LightBoost and 3D Vision included.
The ONLY justification for this monitor being $800 is that so many of you are still living in yesteryear's prices. Asus could make a nice profit selling it for $600. And, they would get more buyers, so I don't think they will actually make more money selling it for the higher price. (That being said, it isn't uncommon to release a product at a relatively high price and then bring it down, so that may be their plan.)
What I meant by "selling it for $600" is selling it at a retail price point of $600. Obviously they would actually sell it to a distributor like Newegg or Amazon for less than the retail price. :)
There is no technical reason for it to be a TN panel. There is no technical reason it should cost $800 either. Both in one offering would be is just outrageous, and would knock my opinion of Asus and ROG down several notches. PLS is basically Samsung's IPS, so no reason for it to be one and not the other either (unless Asus just prefers to deal with Samsung over LG).
There certainly is no technical reason to use VA either, and IPS is a more responsive technology, so I would also be surprised if it were VA. Not sure what AU Optronics is doing with their MVA solutions, but Samsung appears to be moving away from VA (PVA).
This monitor is using a TN pannels. IPS simply can not switch fast enough to go above 60htz without making the picture look like garbage. ATM TN pannels offer the best price/performance. As nice looking as IPS pannels are they are not the best for gaming and are certainly not responsive enough to handle 120+htz.
I don't think it's even (currently) possible to make a 120hz IPS monitor. *Some* of the korean 27" panels will accept a 120hz signal, but none of them will reproduce it as well as a TN 120hz. The pixels just transition too slowly.
That said, manufacturers should really be looking to VA for these kinds of monitors, not just continue the TN crap -- Something like the Eizo FG2421 with it's *amazing* black levels(which are more important than color accuracy for media viewing and gaming, I would argue) at 2560x1440 is what we want.
This *VA panels are better for gaming and video playback, IMO. IPS/PLS monitors have worse contrast and are slower (but I still have one for graphics work).
I've never seen a 2560x1440 TN panel out in the wild and I doubt a panel manufacturer would make one for a niche monitor. So I'm still hopeful that it won't be TN.
Yeah, that is a huge omission. $800 TN, hell no. I had a 28" TN panel before. Once the panel gets so large on a TN display, the terrible view angle disrupts the picture even when sitting directly in front of it. No thanks. I could definitely do a PLS though. I'll cross my fingers.
It really depends on the quality of the panel, I have a 27" VG278H TN and it really isn't any worst in terms of color shifting than a 24" P-MVA Gateway and Dell U2410 I have in the same room. All 3 are MUCH better than the a 23" Dell Alienware AW2310 I have. Definitely something you need to see in person before buying though to make sure it's something you can live with.
It still means something, maybe not to the die hard IPS fans, but there's certainly plenty in the market for high-res, high refresh, G-Sync capable monitors that would prefer the crisp frame transitions and lack of motion blur on this TN compared to a 60Hz IPS panel.
Agreed: "1 ms response time" is very very likely TN and hence worthless for me. Well, Asus thinks it needs this "super gamer" tag, so anything else than TN is out.
Actually with GSync you shouldn't need 120 Hz at all. And it could not only be used for games: I would love to use GSync with an IPS panel to get rid of stutter due to frame rate mismatch in videos (files, streaming.. everything).
Edit: some will say they want 120+ Hz for snappier input response. But this really a dumb brute force solution: just decouple inputs processing from display refresh in software and you're done!
Ah, no mention of the Fonepad? I was hoping that product could get a few more iterations and thinner bezels. Maybe I'll have to pick up the current one to play with.
Not useless, it's good for using as an HDTV in an office or whatever from a cable box set top box or if you want to hook up your console to it. Adapters are hit or miss, in my experience.
Damnit, I'm going to have to pay $800 to upgrade to this display, aren't I? Which means I will probably need to upgrade my GPUs too as 2GB VRAM won't be enough. Any word on 3D Vision support?
First off, can you show me your data where this specific panel is "sh*tty"? I don't mean in general, I want hard data on this monitor since thats what we are talking about.
Freesync is in its infancy and we have NO way of knowing when or if it will come out. You want to know how young Freesync is, take a look at how they did the testing. They used those tablet things to demonstrate it. If it was near prime time, they'd have monitors running it. Second, there is NO list out for what monitors will and won't support it, claiming its just a "minor firmware update" is false. First the monitor would have to support it. Then the manufactor would have to update the firmware, then push it out. Again, we aren't even close to that stage as there is no demos on actual monitors yet. Laptops/Tablets and the like normally have this tech built in because it saves battery life. The other thing to keep in mind is we know G-Sync is on the market right now, AMD is in a race so to speak, now that they unveiled this. If they wait even 6 months, its too late, they've kinda shot themselves in the foot.
Yes, its a TN Panel. If you tune a TN panel like I have, you can get it darn close to an IPS panel. Is it the same, no. IPS is better, but this is a compromise until the manufactures can come up with a 120hz IPS panel. To date there is no true 120hz IPS panel. And $800 is about right actually when you think about what you are getting all told. You nor I may think it is steep or not, but it is about right for the marketplace.
What's funny is you refer to G-Sync in fantasy in a news bit about....a monitor launching soon with G-Sync.
And in exchange, you offer a free solution that has no backing from any actual panel makers, isn't in every panel contrary to what you have claimed, and is just now being pushed by an IHV (AMD) that has a long history of overpromising and underdelivering.
Sorry, but if you haven't figured it out by now, some people are willing to pay more for ACTUAL products and features available and usable TODAY. Not for some words, promises and slidedecks for sometime in the distant future. What were you saying about fantasy again?
First off, Free-Sync is ONLY possible with laptops right now, and even then only certain models that have the ability to adjust monitor frequency on the fly. It is a laptop technology that is designed to reduce power consumption when nothing is changing on the screen. It also comes with increased lag.
Second, the only technology that can produce 1ms total latency AND 120hz AND zero screen tearing AND be within the budget of even an enthusiast gamer is TN, so you are stuck with either a fantasy idea that won't come to light for several years, or to get the best possible "GAMING" monitor available in a few months.
Third, you even stated yourself that 1440p, 120hz, and 1ms are impossible with IPS.. so why are you complaining? If you really don't want TN, even a very high quality one, then don't buy it, but don't expect to find anything even remotely close to a better GAMING monitor than this.
Fourth, even if you could reduce lag to 2 or 3 ms on an IPS, and still use frequency synching, you would be limited to 60hz, which means 60fps.. What kind of enthusiast gamer wants to limit their games to 60 fps?
The bottom line is, if you are OK with 60hz and don't have a problem paying a monster premium for an eizo screen that has 3ms latency, then this is NOT the monitor for you.
One more thing, if you read up on G-sync, you will see that on top of G-sync, all the monitors with G-sync will have the new version of LightBoost as an option. Unfortunately it won't work WITH G-Sync, but if you run into a game that G-sync doesn't work on, you could enable LightBoost and reduce motion blur to the point where your game is enhanced tremendously already. You run the risk of screen tearing again, but it is a pretty good tradeoff when you don't have another option.
I for one would buy this today if it were out, and I might very well buy it in a few months when it releases. I am still using my first gen 24" dell ultrasharp from about 10 years ago, and it suits me very well for gaming. Sure, the color isn't anything like my IPS's at work, but then I am not doing photo editing at home, I game. If I want better color and more of an experience at the cost of response time and blurriness, I will game on the 100" in my theater..
You can very easily tell this monitor has a TN panel because of the 1ms response time, no ips/pls can do that atm. So yeah, TN is a shitty panel no matter how you look at it, and the bigger the TN screen is the lower the quality of panel is. 800$ for TN? rip-off
Not all TN’s are made the same: the premium panel used in the PG278Q is of very high quality. IPS panels (and their derivatives like PVA/MVA etc) are not suitable for a multitude of reasons: 1) the response rate is simply not fast enough to react to the active change in refresh rate and 2) They cannot reliably achieve >60Hz without significantly affecting the quality of the image. IGZO technology (and LTPS – low temperature polysilicon – likewise) – yields 100′s of times faster electron mobility versus standard amorphous silicon panels – and thus can provide a response rate comparable to TN (up to 60Hz currently), but, however desirable this technology is, it is still currently cost prohibitively for many PC gaming enthusiasts in 2014, which is why ROG has used a better price:performance, high quality TN panel.
high quality and TN cannot take part in the same sentence. Because inherently TN tech is bad so no matter how much "high quality" you make it it'll still be bad. TN will ALWAYS have that horrendous shift when you're off-center. And guess what, the larger the TN screen is the more off-center the user will be. So that's ultra bad. Asking 800$ for that is plain rude. But probably there'll be enough fools to take the bad pill.
IPS is a lot better than TN in pretty much every aspect. IPS has much better color accuracy and color depth, and much better viewing angles. Most 1440p monitors employ the use of IPS technology. TN panels have a faster response time-which allows them to refresh faster and react to your input faster. That being said, the quality of TN panels does vary and a select few are actually not bad. We will have to see what reviewers think. I currenly own a Dell 1440p IPS but this monitor is something that i have been waiting for so i will definitely be taking the "bad" pill as you call it regardless if its a TN panel or not.
I really like the PadFone concept. But why are there only options "large phone + large tablet" or "small phone + small tablet"? If I have the option to dock my phone into a 10" tablet when ever I need it, I wouldn't need my phone screen to be as capable as I'd otherwise want it.
That monitor stand though… Why does gamer gear always mean it has to be as ugly as possible? Wouldn’t gamer buy sophisticatedly designed stuff as well?
That'd be my only gripe about the thing. I'm hoping there is a way to turn off that red lighting. That'd just be distracting as hell in my opinion. I know others may like it, so there is no true way to really moan about it. Its personal preference after all.
The price might be high but I bought mine and I'm pretty happy with it! It's amazing! If anyone in Portugal wants this monitor I would advise to buy in http://www.clickplus.pt/p72647 , also, this is eye candy, really gorgeous on my desk with my black and red setup !!
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blanarahul - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I just love the new G-SYNC display!A5 - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Don't love the price tag, though. $800!klmx - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
That's a great price for a 2560x1440 display, especially one with g-sync.Sabresiberian - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Well it isn't a great price for a regular consumer-grade 2560x1440 these days, when you can buy a good one for under $400. It is maybe justifiable because 1)120Hz IPS (I'm assuming IPS, doesn't actually say so here, if it isn't, the thing is waaaay overpriced), and 2) G-SYNC. I think G-SYNC is estimated to add about $100 to the price of a monitor and 120Hz will add some too, just because it is a "special feature".Really though, $600 would be reasonable, the only way they can get away with $800 is because we are conditioned in the "Western" parts of the world to paying a higher price.
iLovefloss - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
If it is an IPS, PLS, or AHVA, then the fact that it built for 120Hz would alone justify the price. Plus, you're paying a little extra for a decent warranty and customer service. There are other benefits, but they really don't matter.susuman - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
You got it totally wrong, prices for electronics are cheaper in most western countries, especially in the US. As a matter of fact Asus, Acer, HTC, MSI, Gigabyte etc. products are usually more expensive in Taiwan than in the US.Tim S - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
The G-Sync module set costs ~$200TheJian - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
Link to a DIY kit for $200 please. You can buy the first asus monitor with it in it for $100 extra, so it's $100. There are a few places extorting high INSTALL fees to put it in for you, but that's not the product's price. 1st adopters always get killed on any new tech.cap10 - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
https://store.nvidia.com/store?Action=DisplayPage&...Tasc - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
It's a TN panel, not IPSTheJian - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
No, we are conditioned to pay higher prices for two reasons. The products is actually better, or it's a brand new tech everyone wants (sometimes both reasons I guess, like here).$600 is reasonable to you, but if it sells out, nobody agrees with you right? Having said that, I'll wait for at least 4-5 brands competing because I refuse to be the 1st adopter that gets raped :) Once the shine wears off (next xmas) I'll have tons of choices and much better NON 1st adopter pricing. I paid $600 for a 24 in 2007 and $900 for my Viewsonic PT813 years before (at OEM pricing, because I bought it to DEMO as a reseller you could do this legally, saved $200 or so). So I'm ok with the price, I just want something else and more models to choose from. I'm hoping for 2560x1600. I hate wide crap for games or web pages. I want 16:10 and maybe a shot at 30in for $1000 for xmas (or I hope top end $700 27in, but I'd pay $800 for 16:10 27in).
TheJian - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub...Lowest price of a brand I recognize (acer) is $500. You'd have to GIVE me a Korean monitor to get me to use one. I don't find that junk appealing, nor will I Ebay a monitor :) I still can't believe Ryan thought that was a good idea in 2012 660ti article...ROFL. Catleap's etc from some guy on Ebay? My Visa# to that guy? ROFL. Whatever...To this day he's still pushing this crap as a res tons of people use (lies) and they still are 2% of the market for 1440p+ combined (all resolutions at or above this). It hasn't changed.
euler007 - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
Don't mind the price tag, will order as soon as it is in stock.WaitingForNehalem - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
This is my dream monitor! Could not care less about the dime-a-dozen mobile products.Sabresiberian - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I'm actually a little miffed at Asus for not making Windows phones. I mean, I've spent plenty of money on their products for Windows computers, I'd like them to support me in the rest of their devices as well! (I'm not buying a tablet. Sorry, a smart phone is as close as I ever plan to get there - maybe a solution that happens to be convertible, but no outright tablets for me.)I'd love to see a serious Asus design of a Windows phone. They don't always hit the mark with their products, but they are always interesting.
dragonsqrrl - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Looks like THE g-sync monitor to get. It's everything everyone's been asking for.Jodiuh - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Ummm...no mention of panel type? 1400P + 120hz + Gsync mean nothing if this is a TN.Friendly0Fire - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Precisely. If this is IPS, it's my dream panel. If it's TN, it better have fantastic picture quality and viewing angles or you just lost me.efeman - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Very unlikely that it'll be IPS. Maybe VA or PLS, either of which would be nice. But more than likely it's TN, for a product like this at that price.sandineyes - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I've never heard of a 1440p 27inch panel that wasn't either IPS, PLS, or AHVA, and $800 bucks is pretty average for such a display. The G-sync and 120Hz might make it seem like it should be more, but my guess is that as a gaming monitor, it won't have any fancy features like hardware calibration support or factory calibration presets (because obviously gamers care nothing for image quality, right?). There have also been some 28 inch 4k displays announced for around this price, so I imagine that might have an influence on pricing as well.chizow - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Yeah 1440P IPS started at $800 a few years ago, only in the last few years with the cheap Korean panels has this dropped substantially. Like anything, new tech introduces a price spike, there's a lot to like on this panel but I still want to see if there's LightBoost and 3D Vision included.Sabresiberian - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I don't know why people are stuck on $800 being an average price for a consumer grade 1440p 27" IPS monitor these days, it simply isn't true -http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub...
The ONLY justification for this monitor being $800 is that so many of you are still living in yesteryear's prices. Asus could make a nice profit selling it for $600. And, they would get more buyers, so I don't think they will actually make more money selling it for the higher price. (That being said, it isn't uncommon to release a product at a relatively high price and then bring it down, so that may be their plan.)
Sabresiberian - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
What I meant by "selling it for $600" is selling it at a retail price point of $600. Obviously they would actually sell it to a distributor like Newegg or Amazon for less than the retail price. :)Sabresiberian - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
There is no technical reason for it to be a TN panel. There is no technical reason it should cost $800 either. Both in one offering would be is just outrageous, and would knock my opinion of Asus and ROG down several notches. PLS is basically Samsung's IPS, so no reason for it to be one and not the other either (unless Asus just prefers to deal with Samsung over LG).There certainly is no technical reason to use VA either, and IPS is a more responsive technology, so I would also be surprised if it were VA. Not sure what AU Optronics is doing with their MVA solutions, but Samsung appears to be moving away from VA (PVA).
Tha Blob - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
This monitor is using a TN pannels. IPS simply can not switch fast enough to go above 60htz without making the picture look like garbage. ATM TN pannels offer the best price/performance. As nice looking as IPS pannels are they are not the best for gaming and are certainly not responsive enough to handle 120+htz.Sancus - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I don't think it's even (currently) possible to make a 120hz IPS monitor. *Some* of the korean 27" panels will accept a 120hz signal, but none of them will reproduce it as well as a TN 120hz. The pixels just transition too slowly.That said, manufacturers should really be looking to VA for these kinds of monitors, not just continue the TN crap -- Something like the Eizo FG2421 with it's *amazing* black levels(which are more important than color accuracy for media viewing and gaming, I would argue) at 2560x1440 is what we want.
althaz - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
This *VA panels are better for gaming and video playback, IMO. IPS/PLS monitors have worse contrast and are slower (but I still have one for graphics work).r3loaded - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
I've never seen a 2560x1440 TN panel out in the wild and I doubt a panel manufacturer would make one for a niche monitor. So I'm still hopeful that it won't be TN.Tha Blob - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
No mate it is a TN pannel. Altough Asus have stated that it will be a premium TN pannel.Tha Blob - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2014/01/07/a...Subyman - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Yeah, that is a huge omission. $800 TN, hell no. I had a 28" TN panel before. Once the panel gets so large on a TN display, the terrible view angle disrupts the picture even when sitting directly in front of it. No thanks. I could definitely do a PLS though. I'll cross my fingers.chizow - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
It really depends on the quality of the panel, I have a 27" VG278H TN and it really isn't any worst in terms of color shifting than a 24" P-MVA Gateway and Dell U2410 I have in the same room. All 3 are MUCH better than the a 23" Dell Alienware AW2310 I have. Definitely something you need to see in person before buying though to make sure it's something you can live with.Razorbak86 - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Looks like it is a TN panel...http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/CES-2014-AS...
chizow - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
It still means something, maybe not to the die hard IPS fans, but there's certainly plenty in the market for high-res, high refresh, G-Sync capable monitors that would prefer the crisp frame transitions and lack of motion blur on this TN compared to a 60Hz IPS panel.MrSpadge - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
Agreed: "1 ms response time" is very very likely TN and hence worthless for me. Well, Asus thinks it needs this "super gamer" tag, so anything else than TN is out.Actually with GSync you shouldn't need 120 Hz at all. And it could not only be used for games: I would love to use GSync with an IPS panel to get rid of stutter due to frame rate mismatch in videos (files, streaming.. everything).
MrSpadge - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
Edit: some will say they want 120+ Hz for snappier input response. But this really a dumb brute force solution: just decouple inputs processing from display refresh in software and you're done!evonitzer - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Ah, no mention of the Fonepad? I was hoping that product could get a few more iterations and thinner bezels. Maybe I'll have to pick up the current one to play with.Hrel - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Too bad it doesn't have HMDI on the monitor, strange.dylan522p - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
HDMI is useless. It couldn't drive this monitor at 120+ HZ. Using HDMI would make this monitor worse.chizow - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Not useless, it's good for using as an HDTV in an office or whatever from a cable box set top box or if you want to hook up your console to it. Adapters are hit or miss, in my experience.chizow - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
Damnit, I'm going to have to pay $800 to upgrade to this display, aren't I? Which means I will probably need to upgrade my GPUs too as 2GB VRAM won't be enough. Any word on 3D Vision support?Lolimaster - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
So you want to pay $800 for a sh*tty tn panel? Freesync is free and supported in basically all monitors or with a minor firmware update.1440p, 120Hz, """"1ms"""", thats impossible for VA/IPS, fastest IPS is the eizo foris @3ms.
http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/CES-2014-AS...
Stop being ripped with g-sync fantasy, now you pay near pro lvl monitor prices for horrible picture quality. LOL
afa7336 - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
First off, can you show me your data where this specific panel is "sh*tty"? I don't mean in general, I want hard data on this monitor since thats what we are talking about.Freesync is in its infancy and we have NO way of knowing when or if it will come out. You want to know how young Freesync is, take a look at how they did the testing. They used those tablet things to demonstrate it. If it was near prime time, they'd have monitors running it. Second, there is NO list out for what monitors will and won't support it, claiming its just a "minor firmware update" is false. First the monitor would have to support it. Then the manufactor would have to update the firmware, then push it out. Again, we aren't even close to that stage as there is no demos on actual monitors yet. Laptops/Tablets and the like normally have this tech built in because it saves battery life. The other thing to keep in mind is we know G-Sync is on the market right now, AMD is in a race so to speak, now that they unveiled this. If they wait even 6 months, its too late, they've kinda shot themselves in the foot.
Yes, its a TN Panel. If you tune a TN panel like I have, you can get it darn close to an IPS panel. Is it the same, no. IPS is better, but this is a compromise until the manufactures can come up with a 120hz IPS panel. To date there is no true 120hz IPS panel. And $800 is about right actually when you think about what you are getting all told. You nor I may think it is steep or not, but it is about right for the marketplace.
chizow - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
What's funny is you refer to G-Sync in fantasy in a news bit about....a monitor launching soon with G-Sync.And in exchange, you offer a free solution that has no backing from any actual panel makers, isn't in every panel contrary to what you have claimed, and is just now being pushed by an IHV (AMD) that has a long history of overpromising and underdelivering.
Sorry, but if you haven't figured it out by now, some people are willing to pay more for ACTUAL products and features available and usable TODAY. Not for some words, promises and slidedecks for sometime in the distant future. What were you saying about fantasy again?
perpetualdark - Monday, January 13, 2014 - link
First off, Free-Sync is ONLY possible with laptops right now, and even then only certain models that have the ability to adjust monitor frequency on the fly. It is a laptop technology that is designed to reduce power consumption when nothing is changing on the screen. It also comes with increased lag.Second, the only technology that can produce 1ms total latency AND 120hz AND zero screen tearing AND be within the budget of even an enthusiast gamer is TN, so you are stuck with either a fantasy idea that won't come to light for several years, or to get the best possible "GAMING" monitor available in a few months.
Third, you even stated yourself that 1440p, 120hz, and 1ms are impossible with IPS.. so why are you complaining? If you really don't want TN, even a very high quality one, then don't buy it, but don't expect to find anything even remotely close to a better GAMING monitor than this.
Fourth, even if you could reduce lag to 2 or 3 ms on an IPS, and still use frequency synching, you would be limited to 60hz, which means 60fps.. What kind of enthusiast gamer wants to limit their games to 60 fps?
The bottom line is, if you are OK with 60hz and don't have a problem paying a monster premium for an eizo screen that has 3ms latency, then this is NOT the monitor for you.
One more thing, if you read up on G-sync, you will see that on top of G-sync, all the monitors with G-sync will have the new version of LightBoost as an option. Unfortunately it won't work WITH G-Sync, but if you run into a game that G-sync doesn't work on, you could enable LightBoost and reduce motion blur to the point where your game is enhanced tremendously already. You run the risk of screen tearing again, but it is a pretty good tradeoff when you don't have another option.
I for one would buy this today if it were out, and I might very well buy it in a few months when it releases. I am still using my first gen 24" dell ultrasharp from about 10 years ago, and it suits me very well for gaming. Sure, the color isn't anything like my IPS's at work, but then I am not doing photo editing at home, I game. If I want better color and more of an experience at the cost of response time and blurriness, I will game on the 100" in my theater..
chizow - Monday, January 6, 2014 - link
TD300 looks awesome too, wish they had some cheaper offerings with Bay-Trail, but it looks like it will be a fine Surface Pro alternative.mobutu - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
You can very easily tell this monitor has a TN panel because of the 1ms response time, no ips/pls can do that atm.So yeah, TN is a shitty panel no matter how you look at it, and the bigger the TN screen is the lower the quality of panel is.
800$ for TN? rip-off
Kronvict - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
Not all TN’s are made the same: the premium panel used in the PG278Q is of very high quality. IPS panels (and their derivatives like PVA/MVA etc) are not suitable for a multitude of reasons: 1) the response rate is simply not fast enough to react to the active change in refresh rate and 2) They cannot reliably achieve >60Hz without significantly affecting the quality of the image. IGZO technology (and LTPS – low temperature polysilicon – likewise) – yields 100′s of times faster electron mobility versus standard amorphous silicon panels – and thus can provide a response rate comparable to TN (up to 60Hz currently), but, however desirable this technology is, it is still currently cost prohibitively for many PC gaming enthusiasts in 2014, which is why ROG has used a better price:performance, high quality TN panel.mobutu - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
high quality and TN cannot take part in the same sentence. Because inherently TN tech is bad so no matter how much "high quality" you make it it'll still be bad.TN will ALWAYS have that horrendous shift when you're off-center. And guess what, the larger the TN screen is the more off-center the user will be.
So that's ultra bad.
Asking 800$ for that is plain rude. But probably there'll be enough fools to take the bad pill.
Kronvict - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
IPS is a lot better than TN in pretty much every aspect. IPS has much better color accuracy and color depth, and much better viewing angles. Most 1440p monitors employ the use of IPS technology.TN panels have a faster response time-which allows them to refresh faster and react to your input faster. That being said, the quality of TN panels does vary and a select few are actually not bad. We will have to see what reviewers think. I currenly own a Dell 1440p IPS but this monitor is something that i have been waiting for so i will definitely be taking the "bad" pill as you call it regardless if its a TN panel or not.
MrSpadge - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
I really like the PadFone concept. But why are there only options "large phone + large tablet" or "small phone + small tablet"? If I have the option to dock my phone into a 10" tablet when ever I need it, I wouldn't need my phone screen to be as capable as I'd otherwise want it.Strulf - Tuesday, January 7, 2014 - link
That monitor stand though… Why does gamer gear always mean it has to be as ugly as possible? Wouldn’t gamer buy sophisticatedly designed stuff as well?afa7336 - Wednesday, January 8, 2014 - link
That'd be my only gripe about the thing. I'm hoping there is a way to turn off that red lighting. That'd just be distracting as hell in my opinion. I know others may like it, so there is no true way to really moan about it. Its personal preference after all.darkfalz - Thursday, January 9, 2014 - link
I want that monitor just not with ROG branding... god damn it.fareed0694 - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - link
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where is it ?!?JoeCosta - Wednesday, September 24, 2014 - link
The price might be high but I bought mine and I'm pretty happy with it! It's amazing! If anyone in Portugal wants this monitor I would advise to buy in http://www.clickplus.pt/p72647 , also, this is eye candy, really gorgeous on my desk with my black and red setup !!