does this driver fix the problem with bonaire based GPU's periodically flicker-refreshing the screen when it is in idle (i.e. not full-screen 3D rendering)?
On my Brazos E2-1800 HTPC (Win 8.1 x64) after installing 13.12 WHQL the Driver Packaging Version is newer, than on previous 13.9 WHQL, but Catalyst writes it's still 13.9 instead of 13.12 (Information -> Software -> Catalyst Version = 13.9). Previous 13.9 was removed completely before installing new 13.12. It's a bug, I suppose.
Driver Packaging Version 13.251-131206a-165817C-ATI
It just looks to me that they missed to update the global version label to 13.12 OR it this formal 13.12 label is missing entirely, as on my desktop HD 7950 machine. It's a minor issue, anyway - don't bother. The new driver itself is working good (for me, at least).
I'm in the same boat, using the Windows 8.1 native driver on a HD 4850 but it's definitely missing out a lot of the optimizations from the Catalyst drivers. So which third party driver are you using?
windows 8 came out 4 years after the 4000 series did. and they continued to sell the 4800 series for over a year. so yes, when my ~3 year old card is no longer supported I'm not happy about it. especially when the competition is still supporting cards that are 7 years old
The 4870 is still no slouch of a card. It beats any integrated including iris and is faster than low end dedicated cards. If I had one I would be pissed if I lost driver support for it.
No trolling - I'm a longstanding Radeon user myself.
I had HD 4870 back in 2008. That was 5 years ago (now I own HD 7950 which is 3.5 times faster; more than that it's GCN - say, like the new consoles).
All Pre-DirectX 11 (DirectX 10/10.1) Radeon cards, such as HD2000/HD3000/HD4000, are now considered legacy products (which they are in fact), and the last driver for them appears to be 13.1. I'm afraid, there probably won't be any considerable updates anymore. Besides, I suppose, all new games ported from/developed simultaneously for PS4/Xbox One will be DX11 only and thus won't run on anything older than HD 5000. HD 4870 is a goode olde historicale boarde, let's face it.
What prevents you from upgrading to something more recent? You can't use every single piece of hardware forever, anyway...
Historical? Give me a break. I still run a 4870 and it plays everything I want just fine. I will not move to windows 8 with this machine anyways so I guess it's a non issue for me. Stop looking down on people who don't have the same priorities as you.
yeah 4870's are very good cards still... I can't complain I just fried mine 2 months ago, didn't realize the fan got stuck, the thing overheated during Stalker I think and I pushed it again and again without knowing the real problem... after a while the screen got dark and the GPU never came back online :|... sad story I know(my old 5 years old card did it's duty dutifully...)... Now I'm going to by a 290x and crossfire it with my next kaveri ... muahahahaa (mandrake laughter)
I figured I'd chime in with my anger at the fact that my 4870 1GiB Crossfire doesn't work in 8/8.1. I had to go back to 7 after I figured that out. And yeah, 4870 x2 is basically a DX 10 5870. Still plenty relevant.
Computer hardware is like a loaf of bread. It only lasts so long on the shelf, regardless of whether or not you eat it. It does not matter if a 4870 is up to the task or not, AMD has moved on to GCN, deal with it. If you and many others were really concerned about it you'd pay AMD to continue to develop drivers for them. If legacy drivers on legacy OS's is not good enough for you, buy a new card that is currently supported. They do not work for free you know, they just develop drivers for the most common hardware out there, and you are being left behind, cheapskates. Have fun playing Pac Man on your 486 and don't worry about updates because you don't need them!
Can anyone comment on the following line from the release notes?
Windows Driver Model (WDM) drivers are no longer bundled in the AMD Catalyst software suite. The WDM drivers install bundle can be downloaded independently through the AMD website.
I'm not seeing any separate downloads other then a Hydravision package, so what exactly are these missing WDM drivers?
Still no mention of the memory leak issue with 5XXX and 6XXX cards in BF4 in Win 8.1. After playing awhile, the game suddenly fills up all memory with the nonpaged memory pool, that only clears on full reboot.
This has been going on since launch, and has several huge threads on the EA forums, but all DICE and AMD seem to do is point fingers at each other.
Is anyone else having really long install times? im at 35 minutes (it is progressing) it happened with 13.11 as well so its installed the new driver its flickered, restored the video ect. now its moved onto installing the CCC and the indicator is at 75% and the bottom one is still cycling. hasnt hung up. the performance tab is showing its got CPU and memory allocation/ use. just taking fricking ages. have they snuck a bios update in as well or something??
I installed this driver last night, twice. I keep getting a glitch on both monitors that pops up randomly. I am going to revert, these aren't fully baked.
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R3MF - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
does this driver fix the problem with bonaire based GPU's periodically flicker-refreshing the screen when it is in idle (i.e. not full-screen 3D rendering)?Stachybotrys - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
bonair? I thought that was the new pitcarn R9s? My pitcarn R9 270X flickers even with this driver for sure.TiGr1982 - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
On my Brazos E2-1800 HTPC (Win 8.1 x64) after installing 13.12 WHQL the Driver Packaging Version is newer, than on previous 13.9 WHQL, but Catalyst writes it's still 13.9 instead of 13.12 (Information -> Software -> Catalyst Version = 13.9).Previous 13.9 was removed completely before installing new 13.12.
It's a bug, I suppose.
matagyula - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
Seems like I'm in the same boat :S is this really just a typo from their side, or are we stuck with the old driver? :OTiGr1982 - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
The actual video driver version is new:Driver Packaging Version 13.251-131206a-165817C-ATI
It just looks to me that they missed to update the global version label to 13.12 OR it this formal 13.12 label is missing entirely, as on my desktop HD 7950 machine. It's a minor issue, anyway - don't bother. The new driver itself is working good (for me, at least).
matagyula - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
You're right :) everything working well on my end, tooJimmaDaRustla - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
Same here!tipoo - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
Soo, how are Radeon HD 4000 series drivers looking for Windows 8.1? I'm still running a third party driver.ky4h - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
I'm in the same boat, using the Windows 8.1 native driver on a HD 4850 but it's definitely missing out a lot of the optimizations from the Catalyst drivers. So which third party driver are you using?skiboysteve - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
the fact that they dropped 4000 support for win 8+ upset me so much I went back to nvidia. such a lame mooveZefram0911 - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
Because they dropped support for a 5 year old card? Laughable.skiboysteve - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
windows 8 came out 4 years after the 4000 series did. and they continued to sell the 4800 series for over a year. so yes, when my ~3 year old card is no longer supported I'm not happy about it. especially when the competition is still supporting cards that are 7 years oldKhenglish - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
The 4870 is still no slouch of a card. It beats any integrated including iris and is faster than low end dedicated cards. If I had one I would be pissed if I lost driver support for it.TiGr1982 - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
No trolling - I'm a longstanding Radeon user myself.I had HD 4870 back in 2008. That was 5 years ago (now I own HD 7950 which is 3.5 times faster; more than that it's GCN - say, like the new consoles).
All Pre-DirectX 11 (DirectX 10/10.1) Radeon cards, such as HD2000/HD3000/HD4000, are now considered legacy products (which they are in fact), and the last driver for them appears to be 13.1. I'm afraid, there probably won't be any considerable updates anymore. Besides, I suppose, all new games ported from/developed simultaneously for PS4/Xbox One will be DX11 only and thus won't run on anything older than HD 5000. HD 4870 is a goode olde historicale boarde, let's face it.
What prevents you from upgrading to something more recent?
You can't use every single piece of hardware forever, anyway...
jkostans - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
Historical? Give me a break. I still run a 4870 and it plays everything I want just fine. I will not move to windows 8 with this machine anyways so I guess it's a non issue for me. Stop looking down on people who don't have the same priorities as you.Makaveli - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
While I agree AMD should still be doing driver updates for the 4xxx series.A 4870 playing everything is subjective and your personal opinion.
It wouldn't be good enough for me and I know this because I have an 4890 in my HTPC that was replaced by a 6950 and that was replaced by a 7970 Ghz.
If you actually play any newer games it won't cut it. Then again playing with low frame rate may be acceptable to you.
tcube - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
yeah 4870's are very good cards still... I can't complain I just fried mine 2 months ago, didn't realize the fan got stuck, the thing overheated during Stalker I think and I pushed it again and again without knowing the real problem... after a while the screen got dark and the GPU never came back online :|... sad story I know(my old 5 years old card did it's duty dutifully...)... Now I'm going to by a 290x and crossfire it with my next kaveri ... muahahahaa (mandrake laughter)lmcd - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
Bro, the 4870 ~= 5770 ~= 7750That's still quite relevant, in my opinion.
And DX11 only? That isn't hitting quite as fast as you think...
freedom4556 - Tuesday, December 24, 2013 - link
I figured I'd chime in with my anger at the fact that my 4870 1GiB Crossfire doesn't work in 8/8.1. I had to go back to 7 after I figured that out. And yeah, 4870 x2 is basically a DX 10 5870. Still plenty relevant.ky4h - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
Agreed, my 4850 is still capable of handling most of my games and there's no real incentive to upgrade.'nar - Friday, January 3, 2014 - link
Computer hardware is like a loaf of bread. It only lasts so long on the shelf, regardless of whether or not you eat it. It does not matter if a 4870 is up to the task or not, AMD has moved on to GCN, deal with it. If you and many others were really concerned about it you'd pay AMD to continue to develop drivers for them. If legacy drivers on legacy OS's is not good enough for you, buy a new card that is currently supported. They do not work for free you know, they just develop drivers for the most common hardware out there, and you are being left behind, cheapskates. Have fun playing Pac Man on your 486 and don't worry about updates because you don't need them!Mr Perfect - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
Can anyone comment on the following line from the release notes?I'm not seeing any separate downloads other then a Hydravision package, so what exactly are these missing WDM drivers?
andysexton - Thursday, December 19, 2013 - link
Still no mention of the memory leak issue with 5XXX and 6XXX cards in BF4 in Win 8.1. After playing awhile, the game suddenly fills up all memory with the nonpaged memory pool, that only clears on full reboot.This has been going on since launch, and has several huge threads on the EA forums, but all DICE and AMD seem to do is point fingers at each other.
Reference: http://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/BF4-PC-Memo...
And here: http://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/INFO-REQUES...
Gigaplex - Saturday, December 21, 2013 - link
Considering the massively long list of issues with BF4 right now, I'd be comfortable at this stage to point the finger at DICE.nunya112 - Friday, December 20, 2013 - link
Is anyone else having really long install times? im at 35 minutes (it is progressing) it happened with 13.11 as well so its installed the new driver its flickered, restored the video ect. now its moved onto installing the CCC and the indicator is at 75% and the bottom one is still cycling. hasnt hung up. the performance tab is showing its got CPU and memory allocation/ use. just taking fricking ages. have they snuck a bios update in as well or something??'nar - Friday, January 3, 2014 - link
I installed this driver last night, twice. I keep getting a glitch on both monitors that pops up randomly. I am going to revert, these aren't fully baked.'nar - Friday, January 3, 2014 - link
oh, and I use an Asus ROG Matrix 7970 on Win7 Pro. I upgrade every 1-2 years to keep the hardware current and in support.