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  • kachaffeous - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    So no LTE Verizon or no Verizon period? Does that CDMA band work for Verizon?
  • jeffkibuule - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    No Verizon period. CDMA stuff won't work unless initially provisioned to Verizon from the OEM.
  • Travk06 - Friday, September 13, 2013 - link

    There may still be a glimmer of hope (see the update at the bottom), http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/12/4723138/lg-nexus...

    ...at least that's what I'm telling myself.
  • fokka - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    "no sd slot" ...aaand i'm out.
  • bakedpatato - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    it's been like that since the Nexus S...
  • jeffkibuule - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    Seriously, Google's shown ZERO indication to want to deal with microSD cards. Why do you think this phone will be different?
  • fokka - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    a man can dream, can he?
  • Mavatar - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    A man should move on.
  • RocketChild - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    That's right, and a man does move on, to a different competitor which helps someone else's profit margins and market share.
  • hrrmph - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    +1. Yep, no point in wasting time or money on an inferior product. Reward only those who build what we want.
  • flyingpants1 - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    32gb is not too bad. 64gb will be the tipping point, where you can hold 20gb music, 20gb music, and 20gb apps/games.

    I wish they'd stop increasing the PPI and screen size. And increase battery life instead.
  • ooooo - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    It needs a totally different technology. Why is the battery technology lacking so far behind? Oil companies is why.
  • flyingpants1 - Sunday, September 8, 2013 - link

    There's nothing wrong with battery technology, it's advancing at a nice rate.

    The problem is that manufacturers jump at the chance to make their phone thinner instead of adding more battery capacity or features.

    Battery life is probably the #1 complaint regarding Android phones. Then UI lagginess/confusion.

    For every 8mm phone out there, there should be a 10mm version with more battery life. Like the Droid MAXX phones. I do not want to carry around a charger or external USB recharging pack just to use my phone.

    Wireless charging should be standard.
  • Silenus - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    I couldn't agree more. Hey thin is great...but I'd rather have a phone that can truly last a full day under heavy use than one that will slice my finger because it's so razor thin.
  • Davidjan - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Why don't use this tiny reader to extend storage:
    http://goo.gl/U6IyY
  • DanNeely - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    1) Drop phone
    2) Lands on dongle
    3) Torque tears uUSB port port off of internal board
    4) Phone destroyed
    5) ???
    6) Profit (for the people selling you a new phone)
  • fokka - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    do you honestly see someone use a dongle sticking out of the phone in a daily scenario? also, my usb-port is on the side so...
  • HaloSern - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    There is no need to support mircoSD cards, since the 16g+ storage is already enough for daily use. Also, microSD with slow reading speed could easily damage the user experience.
  • fokka - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    i just love how people always try to tell me what "enough storage" is. thank you, i will determine that metric myself, if i may.
  • phoenix_rizzen - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    16 GB might be enough for those using their pocket computers as simple texting machines, and maybe for a little web surfing.

    But it's nowhere near enough for those who use their pocket computers to their fullest: music, videos, pictures, apps, backups, documents, etc, etc, etc.
  • piroroadkill - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Of course. Google's own products also lack choice in the same way as Apple's do.
  • Impulses - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    USB OTG's worked on all recent Nexus devices minus the 4...
  • andyo - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    That's a way overdramatic statement to make just cause there's no SD slot.

    Three words that completely negate it: "fastboot oem unlock"
  • BoneAT - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Does it really worth $300 for you? I think it's safe to expect 16/32GB choices and the 32 one should give you about 28 gigs of free space, that's plenty for all sorts of stuff especially the speed the device will offer to move files wirelessly.
  • cubanresourceful - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    I am so ready for this phone, especially since the dimensions are smaller than a N4. :D If this is the next Nexus, and matches the screenshot from the video, then it will be a day one purchase for me. :)
  • psuedonymous - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    "especially since the dimensions are smaller than a N4"
    Huh, so they are! I wasn't considering moving from the Nexus 4 due to not wanting anything larger, but now the Nexus 5 is a serious candidate. I only hope Google (or whoever between LG and Google handled the redesign of the Optimus G PCB) don't screw up USB OTG this time.
  • aryonoco - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    Those dimensions are interesting. It's both shorter and narrower than the Nexus 4. The N4 was too wide for my taste, the HTC One just a bit too tall. If they have indeed managed to fit a 5" screen in a 131.9 mm x 68.2 mm chassis, that's a great achievement, and it could be the perfect size.

    I suspect there will be two SKUs, a North American one and another for the rest of the world. Combined with 8974, this is one potent platform. Now I hope they just come out with 32GB for $299 and 64GB for $349 and really shake the market with this.
  • shabby - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    32/64gb options would be nice, if google trolls us with 8/16gb options again i will buy one just to smash it and mail it to google.
  • 3DoubleD - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    +1 Your comment made my day! 32/64GB at a minimum. 128GB would be a nice option, but Google would rather you store your music on their cloud services, so they don't seem in a rush to provide excessive amounts of storage.
  • Gorgenapper - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    32gb / 64gb minimum is what I'm expecting. 8gb / 16gb is an instant no sale, Nexus device or not.
  • shackanaw - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    For reference's sake, the current Nexus 4 is 133.9 x 68.7 with a 4.7" screen, compared to this device's 131.9 mm (-2mm) x 68.2 mm (-0.5mm) with a 4.96" screen. I, too, am impressed.
  • shackanaw - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    Although... Those measurements might be for the front of the Nexus 4, which is wider than the back, and the LG-D820 is for the back. That could make a difference.
  • garypggg - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    wake up dude with only a 2300 miliamp battery for phone like that it's going to get really crappy battery life
  • nevcairiel - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    The Nexus 4 had 2100 mAh, so its an upgrade in capacity at least - i don't expect any worse battery life than the N4 really.
  • tipoo - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Unless other parts are more efficient.
  • raptor102888 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Even 16gb/32gb would be ok.
  • michael4man - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    They included the Verizon LTE band in the Nexus 7 2013 LTE model, why couldn't they do that here. This is so annoying and I'm sure it is all Verizon's fault, I bet this phone is going to be awesome and I'm going to miss out on it now.
  • kachaffeous - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    Yeah my VZW GNex is getting long in the tooth. Guess we can hold on to the rumor of a Moto Nexus. https://plus.google.com/u/0/110694450299661318989/...
  • thesavvymage - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    On a tablet it makes sense. On a phone, not so much. You can't call and text over LTE on Verizon, so itd be pointless to include data only bands on a smartphone.
  • johnsonx - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link

    earlier today I almost pulled the trigger on a Nexus 4 16GB for the low price of $249. now I think I'm holding out for the Nexus 5 (or whatever it actually gets called...). I'm pretty sure though if the 8GB Nexus 4 shows up again for $199 I won't be able to resist.
  • hfm - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Nexus are always launched in late november.. you literally have 2 months and change to wait..
  • Alketi - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    The Nexus 4 sold on November 13, 2012 and was announced before that.

    I'd expect we should hear news on this sometime in October, possibly sooner.
  • cynosure4sure - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Is no one paying attention to the "2300 mAh" battery size......if it has a screen of 5 inch with a probable Resolution of 1080p combined with a snapdragon 800 probably clocked to 2.2GHz won't it be too little? on top its not replaceable
  • garypggg - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    I totally agree that is way too small of a battery for this phone. My Nexus 4 gets crappy battery life as it is I don't think this is going to get any better
  • phoenix_rizzen - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    Upgrade it to Android 4.3. Your battery life will increase at least 15%. Many people are reporting screen-on times over 4 hours on auto-brightness, and over 5 hours manually set to low values. Much better than the 2-2.5 hours the N4 gets on Android 4.2.
  • phoenix_rizzen - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    Go read the review for the LG G2. The S800 is a heck of a lot more efficient than the S4 Pro in the Nexus4. Even if the battery is only slightly larger in the N5, it will still last several more hours than the N4.
  • dalingrin - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    2300mah battery.... while the LG G2 has 3000mah. Why must Google always screw something up? If I'm going to get a phone with such a high end SoC wouldn't it be great to make use of it beyond saving the battery for phone calls?
    When will the thinness war ever end?
  • garypggg - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    you're right Google should pay more attention to put in a good size battery this thing is destined to get crappy battery life.
  • UpSpin - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    You're free to buy the LG G2 whenever you want if you prefer it.

    I think it's less because of thinness, but because of the price, which greedy people like you always forget.
    Why do people expect a $300-$400 phone being comparable in every way with a $700-$800 phone?

    The HTC One also 'only' has a 2300mAh battery, yet it scores above average battery life numbers. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/...
    8h constant Web Browsing is a full day of intensive usage. So two days on moderate usage. I doubt that it will be that much different with the Nexus 5 even if it has a larger screen and more powerful SoC.

    The Nexus line never was and never will be a Swiss Army knife. It's a reference smartphone using the latest common! hardware, sold for a more than affordable price.

    If you want special features like SD-Card, extended battery life, high quality camera, whatever, you better buy a normally priced high end smartphone. They also exist, but you should expect to pay a premium for premium features (just as it is everywhere), because a larger battery costs the manufacturer more, than a smaller one.

    Google could build such a device, but then they wouldn't be able to sell it for such a low price, causing greedy people like you complain again.
  • Impulses - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Meh, those $700 phones are also earning theirmanufacturer (and the carrier, indirectly) much higher margins than a Nexus device does... The difference in build of materials betweena G2 and even a Nexus 4 is definitely nowhere near $400. I agree the Nexus line is a finely tuned balancing act, but a lot of it does boil down to choice and politics rather than mere economics.

    At the end of the day, I'm just glad this kind of choice exists, in stark contrast to the hardware ecosystem of iOS and even WP. Personally I couldn't care less, USB OTG solves most of my storage needs when traveling etc and I've gotten used to USB batteries to the point of even preferring it (no power cycling, removing the case, etc). I also don't need to use those on a daily basis tho, if I did I'd own Samsung phone and three spare batteries. :P
  • ruzveh - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    LG might be good but they are very slow in Distribution
  • ilkhan - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Damnit. I'll have to purchase my...(GNexus, N4, N7, N7 (2013)) 5th Nexus device in 18 months.
    How sad.
    :D
  • rd_nest - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Another Nexus phone full of compromises and pathetic batterylife. Did nexus manage to get 0.1% marketshare?
  • UpSpin - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    You have to make compromises at this price point.
    For people like you, who don't like compromises, get a normal priced flagship smartphone (HTC One, Samsung Galaxy S4, LG G2, Sony Xperia Z1), but please don't expect a price similar to the Nexus.
  • hughlle - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    all we've seen is a potential photo and some pages form the FCC and people are already complaining about battery life. what kind of usage are you seeing atm? Oh that's right, noone knows. Why not wait till it is released before making such statements. You never know, it could even be the case that LG have tested their hardware and deemed that this battery is suitable.
  • tipoo - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    If it's still 300 bucks, I'll take some compromises. I can't even find used 4Ss below that locally.
  • Impulses - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Having a Nexus on Sprint again would belovely!
  • djc208 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    I find it interesting that while Sprint supports Google Voice (one of the reasons I stuck with their service) and Google Wallet, and the fact that the current Nexus 4 is based off the LG Optimus G, the Optimus G itself doesn't support Google Wallet?
  • st_7 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Brian, I would like you to reply to this, why is TDD LTE(with 63%, don't know what that percentage indicates) is been shown in 'Duty Cycles' part in the image of "7.2 Wireless Technologies", does it mean that this phone has or capable of TDD LTE also?. And can you elaborate Antenna Tuning or switching thing(referred as tuning elements)? does that mean all the bands(frequencies) are supported in every phone and phone automatically switches to the frequence CDMA/GSM/LTE? or is it simply some frequencies are hard blocked as usual?
  • djw39 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Sprint will have FDD-LTE on 1900 PCS/800 SMR, and also TDD-LTE on 2500, this phone will support all three bands
  • BoneAT - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Sounds awesome! Hoping for Nexus 4 price match. Hoping for that big time, $350 or $400 would make me consider the Mi-3, also a spectacular device.
  • code65536 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    So the Nexus 4 was "Mako", and the new Nexus is "Hammerhead", huh? There are lots of other shark species that they could've chosen; perhaps they were fans of a certain video game franchise? ;)
  • dbann - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    I will be eager to see what the "Tiger", "Great White" and the "Megalodon" would be like! :D
  • willis936 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    Verizon customers are really feeling the pain here. It's just blow after blow in terms horribly delayed updates, flagship handsets being months late or passed up entirely, and it all culminates in being the only carrier that doesn't have a nexus option. There is no decent off contract choice for Verizon at all. I think VZW likes it that way but I now have little option to but to sit on three year old hardware and pray that google eventually uses it's motorola/VZW diplomacy to nudge through a device that would redefine "hero".
  • DParadoxx - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link

    I left Verizon for T-Mobile after they ruined the Galaxy Nexus. I couldn't be happier.
  • willis936 - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    Well I'm in the interesting position of having an LTE phone with an unlimited data plan: something that isn't offered anywhere period. Upgrading means losing that which I'm not super keen on as it's quite useful with WiFi hotspots and there's no guarantee it will be coming back anytime soon for any reasonable price.
  • thesavvymage - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    T-Mobile has LTE with fully unlimited data, so it is still offered. Their plans also include tethering. I cant name any markets off the top of my head with LTE other than Austin and Seattle though...
  • Ed T Duck - Sunday, September 8, 2013 - link

    No. T-mobile has 'unlimited'. Verizon has UNLIMITED!
  • Impulses - Sunday, September 8, 2013 - link

    T-Mobile does have a fully unlimited option with no throttling, as does Sprint.
  • dyc4ha - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    So is it reasonable to assume they are only gong to have 1 model across the board? I always thought they would make several variations for different markets needing different LTE bands, but seeing how they are trying to fit even CDMA into one model, I guess they truly want a world-wide phone like the Nexus 4 but with LTE.
  • mfmx - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    There is nothing global about these LTE bands, they are for North America only. Europe and Asia uses completely different LTE bands.
  • dyc4ha - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link

    Well the reason I ask is because going off with the Nexus 7 LTE bands, the US has their own and the rest of the world (Canada included) got a different set of bands. In Canada we need B4/7, so I just thought that IF they do indeed include band 7 (and 1) then it would be a global phone. Pardon my limited knowledge on EU/APAC bands.
  • Ed T Duck - Sunday, September 8, 2013 - link

    Can someone clarify. When a FCC filing mentions both CDMA and gsm does that mean there will be one model that works on both networks or two models? If the former, then that is a very important development for eventually cracking the stranglehold on competition the US carriers have.
  • Gorgenapper - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link

    Hmmm.... is this my next phone? I'm more interested and excited by this than by the LG G2.
  • anxyandy - Monday, October 14, 2013 - link

    I found a preview of the wallpaper!! Not that exciting, but nice:
    http://versus.com/nexus-5-wallpaper.html

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