Biggest non-TV OLED display I've seen is the GTab 7.7/Excite 7.7 (at a shocking 7.7"), although I admit to some curiosity as to why nobody is making tablet- or laptop-sized OLED displays. I guess the answer is cost? Those 7.7" AMOLED tablets were on the crazy expensive side when they were introduced.
I don't get why we aren't seeing some high end priced OLED monitors yet. They're rolling out the 50-55" OLED TVs as flagship products, so surely they could do the same in the PC space with 27-30" products at high prices? As for the tablet space, I suppose it might be a price issue.
"Premium feel of metal"??? Really Anand, enough of this "if it's not metal, it's crap" stuff.
They're mobile devices that include radios. Plastic is often a better material. It's generally lighter and unarguably better at allowing the propagation of radio frequencies.
Metal on a 10" tablet just seems like a lot of unnecessary weight... There's plastic and then there's plastic tho. Samsung's typical glossy plastic just feels cheap and even looks cheap (more scratch/smudge prone etc).
There's tons of ways to make some sorta plastic material feel and look far better than Samsung's devices typically do... Look at the One X or any of Nokia's recent phones. Hell, I'd even take something like the original Transformer's textured plastic back over most of Samsung's backs (tho they've done something similar at times, Galaxy Nexus and some carrier specific SGS2 had similar backs IIRC).
Even if you're using glossy plastic for whatever reason, there's always room for improvement... The bonded glossy plastic edge of the Moto X comes to mind, the transition from display to edge feels FAR smoother than on any other phone (and the kevlar or whatever back feels sturdy even if it's not any tougher in the end).
Ho yeah like apple versus Finland re water damage from condensation from ali casing result not fit for purpose. Plastic absorbs/deforms/deflects impacts where as metal don't which then transmits impact to internals or screens. Test one. drop say a SG3 on the floor backs comes off battery drops out few marks on case. Test two try same thing with a sour apple phone(if you have the balls?) result marks and dents all over and crying like a baby that can't find it's dummy when they say it's x amount for screen but you have Y model so Z amount so i'd rather have a plastic case than a £300 odd repair bill for screen etc. So look and learn and most people will have them in a case/cover anyway so never see the main casing like i had to have a white Note 2 as grey out and couldn't get deal in store i got but with black leather flip cover looks good. so be your self and not a sheep following the flock Baaaaaa. Kevlar is stronger if real kevlar lighter than glassfibre but it's in the lay up/make up of how it's done is what makes it work. Also the specs of the plastic varies as sumsung might be shiney but it cleans well and don't scratch alot and Aluminium scratches badly as it's anodised so once you have had a kinky moment from being over come by your "apple" brainwash and worn through it you are down to bare ali and does corrode your sweaty hands contain acids in your sweat which pits aluminium but not plastic(plastic +3 so far or more!) Take a look at a 6 month old iphone then a year old G3 my friends got a G3 over year old now and that gets hammered all day in his shop calls/watching movies etc and his kid plays onit and still looks good his wifes a Sheep (i need an ipad)baaa and follows the flock i mean apple and hers looks like it lost a fight with an earth mover and thats 7 months old.
You are delusional. As an Android fan who plans to get a Galaxy Note 3 next, even I know that a Galaxy S 3 fares far worse in drop tests than an iPhone 5. It's been demonstrated quite dramatically.
What manufacturers need to do is STOP making the entire front out of glass and only make the digitizer area glass. The bezel should be plastic/rubber that isolated the digitizer glass.
I have to agree. I'm tired of the little pissy jabs at any company that is not Apple on this site as well as others. I was really excited to go online and read about Samsung's new products, but the Engadget reporting was filled with pissy comments about plastic v metal, how every touchwiz feature is a gimmick, how Samsung is plagued with "build quality problems" (by that they don't mean the products are more likely to break or deteriorate - instead they mean it is not made out of metal), etc. Don't get me wrong: I agree to some extent with the criticisms. I don't like the type of plastic Samsung uses, and I definitely don't like faux leather and stitching. Some of the new software features are gimmicky.
But the articles don't make these points in a reasonable way that recognizes that things aren't black and white. They make then in a pissy way and they perseverate on them as if we've never heard the criticism that Samsung should use metal instead of plastic.
I know I'm being rant-y. I swear I'm not an anti apple fanatic. I can recognize its pros. I just get tired of reading articles that focus on non-apple products' cons but rarely do the same for apple products. Observing this turns me into a fanboy for all noon apple companies and OSes.
Because if you use it for drawing, AMOLED is probably going to suck for your colors. Also, AMOLED is more expensive, and they're already adding to the price by including the S-pen and the digitizer.
Pretty sure AMOLED can be calibrated just like any other display tech. More often than not, it's the lack of calibration that causes bad colors, not the type of the display.
AMOLED colours shift over time which is why older AMOLED displays have more of a blue tinge (usually) - it's due to the way the coloured subpixels age. Then you have sunlight legibility and burn-in issues. For a panel of this size you're better off with a good LCD like here, I'm sure if it were viable Samsung would have considered or been using it for this product.
Anyway, it's not like a good LCD is hard to come by, look at HTC's and Apple's products.
Yeah, AMOLED is actually better for color work because it has a wider gamut than anything by 3-LED (RGB) LCDs. Its problem on phones and tablets is calibration - Google won't add color calibration to Android even though the graphics hardware supports LUTs.
The other color problem with AMOLED is that the screen's color shifts more over time than LCD, and they (can) degrade unevenly. The different color OLED subpixels degrade faster than LED backlights, and they degrade at different rates depending on use.
I'm more upset they haven't announced the 12.2" version. Also, if Note 3 has 32GB as the minimum storage, why not the Note 10.1, too? Come on, Samsung! That's not cool at all.
"The 2014 Galaxy Note 10.1 will ship in Q3 with Android 4.3" - I assume you mean Q3 this year given it's Android 4.3? So that means now, or at least within 3 weeks?
lol! It is not a dangerous company though! Other companies may dress their products in gold; they may also sell themselves as exciting. But they will like to experiment on you like a new guinea pig and the only time they won't offer you subpar equipment, is when they have hidden sinister plans to promote. You may dress a slave like a king, but he will never become a ruler.Digital technology is rapidly becoming more important to our lives than its most fanatic users would like to admit. Using it in obscene ways to cancel long standing human rights and civil liberties is sth to condemn, not to applaude as if being drunk.
This would be perfect for graphic artists, if only the software was available. Seems like it's about time for Adobe to start work on a full-featured version of Photoshop for Android.
I wonder if Adobe is not already planning their own such tablet, in an effort to become a "hardware company", too. We live in a crazy world, so it could happen.
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ruzveh - Wednesday, September 4, 2013 - link
Whats Super Clear LCD? Why not AMOLED :Dteiglin - Wednesday, September 4, 2013 - link
Biggest non-TV OLED display I've seen is the GTab 7.7/Excite 7.7 (at a shocking 7.7"), although I admit to some curiosity as to why nobody is making tablet- or laptop-sized OLED displays. I guess the answer is cost? Those 7.7" AMOLED tablets were on the crazy expensive side when they were introduced.Mumrik - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link
I don't get why we aren't seeing some high end priced OLED monitors yet. They're rolling out the 50-55" OLED TVs as flagship products, so surely they could do the same in the PC space with 27-30" products at high prices?As for the tablet space, I suppose it might be a price issue.
Dentons - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
"Premium feel of metal"??? Really Anand, enough of this "if it's not metal, it's crap" stuff.They're mobile devices that include radios. Plastic is often a better material. It's generally lighter and unarguably better at allowing the propagation of radio frequencies.
nerd1 - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Too much apple kool-aid...ben.avellone - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Bah, I'd much rather have a metal device vs plastic. I agree with Anand on that one ;)Impulses - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link
Metal on a 10" tablet just seems like a lot of unnecessary weight... There's plastic and then there's plastic tho. Samsung's typical glossy plastic just feels cheap and even looks cheap (more scratch/smudge prone etc).There's tons of ways to make some sorta plastic material feel and look far better than Samsung's devices typically do... Look at the One X or any of Nokia's recent phones. Hell, I'd even take something like the original Transformer's textured plastic back over most of Samsung's backs (tho they've done something similar at times, Galaxy Nexus and some carrier specific SGS2 had similar backs IIRC).
Even if you're using glossy plastic for whatever reason, there's always room for improvement... The bonded glossy plastic edge of the Moto X comes to mind, the transition from display to edge feels FAR smoother than on any other phone (and the kevlar or whatever back feels sturdy even if it's not any tougher in the end).
NSAfreezone - Sunday, September 8, 2013 - link
Ho yeah like apple versus Finland re water damage from condensation from ali casing result not fit for purpose. Plastic absorbs/deforms/deflects impacts where as metal don't which then transmits impact to internals or screens.Test one. drop say a SG3 on the floor backs comes off battery drops out few marks on case.
Test two try same thing with a sour apple phone(if you have the balls?) result marks and dents all over and crying like a baby that can't find it's dummy when they say it's x amount for screen but you have Y model so Z amount so i'd rather have a plastic case than a £300 odd repair bill for screen etc. So look and learn and most people will have them in a case/cover anyway so never see the main casing like i had to have a white Note 2 as grey out and couldn't get deal in store i got but with black leather flip cover looks good. so be your self and not a sheep following the flock Baaaaaa.
Kevlar is stronger if real kevlar lighter than glassfibre but it's in the lay up/make up of how it's done is what makes it work.
Also the specs of the plastic varies as sumsung might be shiney but it cleans well and don't scratch alot and Aluminium scratches badly as it's anodised so once you have had a kinky moment from being over come by your "apple" brainwash and worn through it you are down to bare ali and does corrode your sweaty hands contain acids in your sweat which pits aluminium but not plastic(plastic +3 so far or more!)
Take a look at a 6 month old iphone then a year old G3 my friends got a G3 over year old now and that gets hammered all day in his shop calls/watching movies etc and his kid plays onit and still looks good his wifes a Sheep (i need an ipad)baaa and follows the flock i mean apple and hers looks like it lost a fight with an earth mover and thats 7 months old.
CZroe - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link
You are delusional. As an Android fan who plans to get a Galaxy Note 3 next, even I know that a Galaxy S 3 fares far worse in drop tests than an iPhone 5. It's been demonstrated quite dramatically.What manufacturers need to do is STOP making the entire front out of glass and only make the digitizer area glass. The bezel should be plastic/rubber that isolated the digitizer glass.
SunLord - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Doesn't Apple have a patent on metal chassis and plastic cutouts for antennas?CZroe - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link
They have patents on radio-neutral ceramic or something but I would think that an RF window would be too obvious to patent.hikka - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
what? do you mean you don't enjoy premium feeling aluminium cans when every time when you drink colaTheDistantSea - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Please read your comment again and try to find anything in it that has to do with the FEEL of the material.ESC2000 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link
I have to agree. I'm tired of the little pissy jabs at any company that is not Apple on this site as well as others. I was really excited to go online and read about Samsung's new products, but the Engadget reporting was filled with pissy comments about plastic v metal, how every touchwiz feature is a gimmick, how Samsung is plagued with "build quality problems" (by that they don't mean the products are more likely to break or deteriorate - instead they mean it is not made out of metal), etc. Don't get me wrong: I agree to some extent with the criticisms. I don't like the type of plastic Samsung uses, and I definitely don't like faux leather and stitching. Some of the new software features are gimmicky.But the articles don't make these points in a reasonable way that recognizes that things aren't black and white. They make then in a pissy way and they perseverate on them as if we've never heard the criticism that Samsung should use metal instead of plastic.
I know I'm being rant-y. I swear I'm not an anti apple fanatic. I can recognize its pros. I just get tired of reading articles that focus on non-apple products' cons but rarely do the same for apple products. Observing this turns me into a fanboy for all noon apple companies and OSes.
Krysto - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Because if you use it for drawing, AMOLED is probably going to suck for your colors. Also, AMOLED is more expensive, and they're already adding to the price by including the S-pen and the digitizer.JlHADJOE - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Pretty sure AMOLED can be calibrated just like any other display tech. More often than not, it's the lack of calibration that causes bad colors, not the type of the display.nerd1 - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
A bunch of professional displays are now made in OLED.plewis00 - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
AMOLED colours shift over time which is why older AMOLED displays have more of a blue tinge (usually) - it's due to the way the coloured subpixels age. Then you have sunlight legibility and burn-in issues. For a panel of this size you're better off with a good LCD like here, I'm sure if it were viable Samsung would have considered or been using it for this product.Anyway, it's not like a good LCD is hard to come by, look at HTC's and Apple's products.
Solandri - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Yeah, AMOLED is actually better for color work because it has a wider gamut than anything by 3-LED (RGB) LCDs. Its problem on phones and tablets is calibration - Google won't add color calibration to Android even though the graphics hardware supports LUTs.The other color problem with AMOLED is that the screen's color shifts more over time than LCD, and they (can) degrade unevenly. The different color OLED subpixels degrade faster than LED backlights, and they degrade at different rates depending on use.
Krysto - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link
AMOLED is more expensive at the same resolution.I'm more upset they haven't announced the 12.2" version. Also, if Note 3 has 32GB as the minimum storage, why not the Note 10.1, too? Come on, Samsung! That's not cool at all.
Roland00Address - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
Any word on pricing?On your pipeline homepage it states this article is a featured review in the upper corner of the image. I am assuming this is a mistake?
Krysto - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
I want the rumored 12.2" version (hopefully with Samsung's own ARMv8 chip).Disorganise - Thursday, September 5, 2013 - link
"The 2014 Galaxy Note 10.1 will ship in Q3 with Android 4.3" - I assume you mean Q3 this year given it's Android 4.3? So that means now, or at least within 3 weeks?mmarafie - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link
Was Anand sleeping when he wrote this? No excitement at all about one of the best if not the best tablet that will be released this year!Oh wait sorry, it's not an Apple product. Anand must be saving all his energy and glowing talk for the iPad 5 next month...
nicsta - Saturday, September 7, 2013 - link
Don't blame Anand, it is a boring product from a boring company.IUU - Sunday, September 8, 2013 - link
lol!It is not a dangerous company though!
Other companies may dress their products in gold; they may also sell themselves as exciting. But they will like to experiment on you like a new guinea pig and the only time they won't offer you subpar equipment, is when they have hidden sinister plans to promote.
You may dress a slave like a king, but he will never become a ruler.Digital technology is rapidly becoming more important to our lives than its most fanatic users would like to admit. Using it in obscene ways to cancel long standing human rights and civil liberties is sth to condemn, not to applaude as if being drunk.
JDG1980 - Friday, September 6, 2013 - link
This would be perfect for graphic artists, if only the software was available. Seems like it's about time for Adobe to start work on a full-featured version of Photoshop for Android.NSAfreezone - Sunday, September 8, 2013 - link
Root it and you can please your self as seen a note 2 rooted and wow fast and nice screen takes all ss bloatware outKrysto - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link
I wonder if Adobe is not already planning their own such tablet, in an effort to become a "hardware company", too. We live in a crazy world, so it could happen.Baubo - Monday, September 9, 2013 - link
Why isn't the snapdragon 800 in all 3 models?!rolandswan - Monday, February 26, 2018 - link
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