A wireless dongle for communications with an internal PSU which already has tons of cabling? Seems like a waste and just pollutes the overcrowded 2.4GHz spectrum even more.
It wasn't quite clear from the wording, but I think the article was saying that Corsair had a patent on passing PSU data through a USB header, so Rosewill had to use this hack instead.
Yeah, the line "Corsair has the IP for the internal USB driven data connection" refers to Corsair having a patent on the internal USB connection. If it was not for the fact that a lot of setups that would potentially want this power supply will be utilizing most or all of the SATA ports, I think that might have been an option.
Neutron's design is bit disappointing - had they gone with the non-swiveling design, they could've put 8 drives there and built an excellent home server case. Alas.
grr.... I'm still waiting on pricing and availability on the RK-9200 keyboard ever since they unveiled it at CES. Starting to get irritated on waiting for it. Granted, other keyboards are available, sans lights. Looks like I gotta put up with more waiting 'till it's out.
I feel like all of these comparatively giant mini-ITX cases like this and the Prodigy just miss the point.
There's way too few well designed, small, no-compromise cases. For me, that means you don't need more than a single 2.5" bay (I mean, for most people using a smaller case like this, are you really going to need more than an mSATA or NGFF attached to the motherboard plus a 2.5" HDD for larger amounts of data? I know some enthusiasts would disagree, but too many cases are just completely overkill), maybe a 5.25" slim bay, and room for a full-length dual slot GPU, preferably with a riser so the case stays slim and fits well with AV components.
I saw elsewhere that Silverstone apparently has something called the Raven that might fit the bill, but there are practically no other options except for hobbyists making their own cases like on HardForum.
You're right. There needs to be a mini-ITX case with just enough room for a single HDD and slim Blu/DVD/CD with locations to screw in an SSD or two. It could even be powered by an external, passively cooled power brick.
Such a case could be much less than half the size of current mini-ITX cases. Until the case size starts to reflect the potential of the spec, I don't see the point of mini-ITX.
Yes, but one with a cost in line with the minimal hardware involved. Antec has a few of those cases and they're all stupidly expensive. For the cost of that tiny case, one could buy a top rated, nearly silent full sized ATX case.
That's where Rosewill often comes through. They tend to offer medium (to low) quality products at a reasonable price, at least when they're discounted. Being that they're Newegg's house brand, frequent discounts are the rule.
Silverstone has done the "direct fan airflow to motherboard/video card" design for some time, with cases like the FT02 and TJ08-E. Nice to see it getting more widespread adoption.
I think this case looks great and has the potential to fill its own niche. This looks like it can be a high quality, compact professional graphics workstation. It can be a great home PC powerhouse for someone who tends to swap components in and out. I mean, I love my SS SG08, but I dread the day I want to change out a component.
Closest thing on the market are some of the Lian-Li ITX cases, but their cooling tends to suck and are most likely more expensive than this Rosewill will be. Abee of Japan has some awesome ITX designs, but they're not available in the states to my knowledge.
Overall, love the multi platform, removeable Mother board tray, easy access to HDDs, and what looks to be a highly effective cooling arrangement.
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DigitalFreak - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
Isn't Rosewill Newegg's house brand?Tator Tot - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
Yes, but they're still their own brand.nathanddrews - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
... and usually cheaper on Amazon.Gigaplex - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
A wireless dongle for communications with an internal PSU which already has tons of cabling? Seems like a waste and just pollutes the overcrowded 2.4GHz spectrum even more.DanNeely - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
agreed. Just cable to one of the ubiquitous, unused, USB2 headers on the mobo and be done with it.JDG1980 - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
It wasn't quite clear from the wording, but I think the article was saying that Corsair had a patent on passing PSU data through a USB header, so Rosewill had to use this hack instead.compjunkie888 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - link
Yeah, the line "Corsair has the IP for the internal USB driven data connection" refers to Corsair having a patent on the internal USB connection. If it was not for the fact that a lot of setups that would potentially want this power supply will be utilizing most or all of the SATA ports, I think that might have been an option.lwatcdr - Thursday, June 27, 2013 - link
Corsair has IP on hooking a device up to a USB port? Talk about a broken patent system. Interna vs external just should not matter.vnangia - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
Neutron's design is bit disappointing - had they gone with the non-swiveling design, they could've put 8 drives there and built an excellent home server case. Alas.keitaro - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
grr.... I'm still waiting on pricing and availability on the RK-9200 keyboard ever since they unveiled it at CES. Starting to get irritated on waiting for it. Granted, other keyboards are available, sans lights. Looks like I gotta put up with more waiting 'till it's out.alaricljs - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
It was my understanding that CM Storm had the lock on MX Green in the US.jhoff80 - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
I feel like all of these comparatively giant mini-ITX cases like this and the Prodigy just miss the point.There's way too few well designed, small, no-compromise cases. For me, that means you don't need more than a single 2.5" bay (I mean, for most people using a smaller case like this, are you really going to need more than an mSATA or NGFF attached to the motherboard plus a 2.5" HDD for larger amounts of data? I know some enthusiasts would disagree, but too many cases are just completely overkill), maybe a 5.25" slim bay, and room for a full-length dual slot GPU, preferably with a riser so the case stays slim and fits well with AV components.
I saw elsewhere that Silverstone apparently has something called the Raven that might fit the bill, but there are practically no other options except for hobbyists making their own cases like on HardForum.
Dentons - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link
You're right. There needs to be a mini-ITX case with just enough room for a single HDD and slim Blu/DVD/CD with locations to screw in an SSD or two. It could even be powered by an external, passively cooled power brick.Such a case could be much less than half the size of current mini-ITX cases. Until the case size starts to reflect the potential of the spec, I don't see the point of mini-ITX.
sonofgodfrey - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
You mean, like this?http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=2240&fid=2...
(power supply is a bit weak, and no room for video card)
Dentons - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
Yes, but one with a cost in line with the minimal hardware involved. Antec has a few of those cases and they're all stupidly expensive. For the cost of that tiny case, one could buy a top rated, nearly silent full sized ATX case.That's where Rosewill often comes through. They tend to offer medium (to low) quality products at a reasonable price, at least when they're discounted. Being that they're Newegg's house brand, frequent discounts are the rule.
JBVertexx - Saturday, June 8, 2013 - link
Streacom F1C, Lian-Li PC-Q02/03, Silverstone SG06?JDG1980 - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
Silverstone has done the "direct fan airflow to motherboard/video card" design for some time, with cases like the FT02 and TJ08-E. Nice to see it getting more widespread adoption.JohnDiew0107 - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
RK-9200 also uses all standard 1.25x modifiersKepe - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link
The binary code above and below the word "EPOCH" in the power supply picture translates to "Digital power". Someone wants to know anyways... :dJBVertexx - Saturday, June 8, 2013 - link
I think this case looks great and has the potential to fill its own niche. This looks like it can be a high quality, compact professional graphics workstation. It can be a great home PC powerhouse for someone who tends to swap components in and out. I mean, I love my SS SG08, but I dread the day I want to change out a component.Closest thing on the market are some of the Lian-Li ITX cases, but their cooling tends to suck and are most likely more expensive than this Rosewill will be. Abee of Japan has some awesome ITX designs, but they're not available in the states to my knowledge.
Overall, love the multi platform, removeable Mother board tray, easy access to HDDs, and what looks to be a highly effective cooling arrangement.