Well, is it really double the performance of the Fermi cards ? Maybe the 32-bit floating point computation is twice as fast, but I believe most scientific research is done (and should be done) with 64 bit precision.
And what is the deal with the multimonitor scaling ? Couldn't that be achieved with any run of the mill consumer kepler card ?
Tesla, not Quadro, cards are intended for scientific computing, where 64-bit processing is critical. They may even be slightly less expensive than equivalent Quadro cards, especially since there is no display connector on the latest (Kepler based) ones - they are not intended for visualization. They are also more reliable than normal display cards in terms of the trustworthiness of results.
I think the main target for Quadros are professional Image-processors and related pieces of software. Think camera-assisted operations, high-resolution satellite surveillance or industrial level CAD.
32bit performance is good enough for any kind of image post-processing, when even the most expensive image sensors only come with a 16bit ADC. Its usually also good enough for any kind of physical/thermal simulation , e.g. virtual crash tests for cars, and the visualisations that go with it.
For a site so focused around games few people seem to know how that content is created. These are heavily used by CAD & 3D Apps, the prices are atrocious however for those who aren't in an industry situation who need these cards... such as art students seeking to enter into the special effects, gaming, movie, tv industries... and for hobbyists who use the same programs for fun and art.
These are already on the Thinkpad lineup, they have a mobile K2000M, K3000M, etc. series. You just have the wrong Thinkpad... T-series tops out at NVS series as does the Dell latitude series.... if you want the K Quadros, in a mobile setup you need workstation grade, ie: the W-series... so the Thinkpad W530 for example, has these cards, as well as the Dell Precision line, of course it costs more.
Lenovo went with k1000m but you can upgrade it manually to the other k series you're self. $915 for the k5000m through dell But if you go with a dell workstation you can opt for that nice 17.3 touch screen and 1-4 hdds. Plus backlit keyboard.
...so I bought a FirePro W7000 from AMD. The card is awesome, and nothing I'm reading here has me regretting that decision. Plus I need Gen3 support because I am moving lots of data around, so it looks like a way better option.
The 100/110 parts have always been the only high FP64 chips in nVidia's lineup. I'm surprised they aren't offering any Quadros with them yet. The chips huge size should provide them with lots of dies with several faulty core blocks; which nVidia's always used for most of their mid/upper range quadro cards in the past.
The Geforce Titan is less expensive than the Quadro K4000. If someone actually needs a strong FP64 GPU but can't afford the Titan, maybe a Fermi card will work.
Despite being new ASICs, I'm having a hard time understanding what is compelling about these products. I was looking for something more competitive. Based on link below, it looks like the FirePro cards offer more performance...
As far as I remember, any comparison test between Quadro and FirePro over the last 3 years has shown a strong dependence on the specific software used for the benchmark, even more so than with consumer cards and games. So the FirePro is faster by 100% or 200% for some tasks, and slower by 80% for others.
My interest is SolidWorks specific, where I am seeing great FirePro performance (I have one, and use the application), and the video shows it too. Honestly, I can't speak to other applications, but if it is this much better in SolidWorks, I would expect similar advantages on other CAD applications using OpenGL (or not 80% less), but I'm not in a position to confirm that (with a card, or the applications).
Regardless, I thought it was nice to see real application performance, vs. viewperf numbers, which seem to have no relationship with the application itself.
Yeah, just like if you only want to do bitcoin, although if your evidence is a single youtube video, I'd say stay ignorant and happy. Just make certain you stay convinced because amd will be stomped again. When it disappears soon, your "investment" support goes with it.
Well, he did mention that he is using SolidWorks, a professional application, which is what these products are optimized for. So I'm guessing that this is not one of those "stay ignorant and happy" situations. He's not a gamer. Maybe you are on the wrong thread and should go stomp elsewhere. :)
’d like to know as soon as I can whhich is the major difference between Nvidia k600 and k2000 (except the price obviously). I’d like to change my old graphic board:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 @ 2.50GHz Yorkfield 45nm RAM 6.00GB DDR3 @ 531 MHz (7-7-7-20) Scheda Madre PEGATRON CORPORATION Eureka3 (CPU 1) 42 °C Grafica 1024 MBATI Radeon HD 4650 (MSI) Dischi Drive 932GB Western Digital WDC WD10EADS-65M2B0 ATA Device (SATA)
I can’t try it before so I am asking suggestion. I manage huge autocad files with big about 65 to 85MB and my autocad (I suppose because of the graphic card) hang continuously. The CPU seems not overloaded neither ram ... but autocad hangs !
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nevertell - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
Well, is it really double the performance of the Fermi cards ? Maybe the 32-bit floating point computation is twice as fast, but I believe most scientific research is done (and should be done) with 64 bit precision.And what is the deal with the multimonitor scaling ? Couldn't that be achieved with any run of the mill consumer kepler card ?
Ktracho - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
Tesla, not Quadro, cards are intended for scientific computing, where 64-bit processing is critical. They may even be slightly less expensive than equivalent Quadro cards, especially since there is no display connector on the latest (Kepler based) ones - they are not intended for visualization. They are also more reliable than normal display cards in terms of the trustworthiness of results.ShieTar - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
I think the main target for Quadros are professional Image-processors and related pieces of software. Think camera-assisted operations, high-resolution satellite surveillance or industrial level CAD.32bit performance is good enough for any kind of image post-processing, when even the most expensive image sensors only come with a 16bit ADC. Its usually also good enough for any kind of physical/thermal simulation , e.g. virtual crash tests for cars, and the visualisations that go with it.
colonelpepper - Friday, March 8, 2013 - link
For a site so focused around games few people seem to know how that content is created. These are heavily used by CAD & 3D Apps, the prices are atrocious however for those who aren't in an industry situation who need these cards... such as art students seeking to enter into the special effects, gaming, movie, tv industries... and for hobbyists who use the same programs for fun and art.Maya
3DS Max
Mudbox
Vue (Eon Software)
Autocad
Aftereffects
Avid Software
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domdym123 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link
Adobe premiertobiholz - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
I hope Lenovo will adopt these for there new Thinkpad lineup ... the NVS5400m on the current t430 is just not fast enough :(ssnova - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
These are already on the Thinkpad lineup, they have a mobile K2000M, K3000M, etc. series. You just have the wrong Thinkpad... T-series tops out at NVS series as does the Dell latitude series.... if you want the K Quadros, in a mobile setup you need workstation grade, ie: the W-series... so the Thinkpad W530 for example, has these cards, as well as the Dell Precision line, of course it costs more.domdym123 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link
Lenovo went with k1000m but you can upgrade it manually to the other k series you're self. $915 for the k5000m through dellBut if you go with a dell workstation you can opt for that nice 17.3 touch screen and 1-4 hdds. Plus backlit keyboard.
thampter14 - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
...so I bought a FirePro W7000 from AMD. The card is awesome, and nothing I'm reading here has me regretting that decision. Plus I need Gen3 support because I am moving lots of data around, so it looks like a way better option.tobiholz - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
I'm using a desktop with Intel HD3000 Graphics so even an old NVS5400m is an upgrade...But as I need the mobility I don't want to pay over 1.3k and then have no graphicpower ... epecially as it will be my main machine ;)
mayankleoboy1 - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
What is this feature ? I dont reeber reading this before.DuckieHo - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
Other than the GK110, NVIDIA does not plan to have any lower priced, strong FP64 GPUs this round?DanNeely - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
The 100/110 parts have always been the only high FP64 chips in nVidia's lineup. I'm surprised they aren't offering any Quadros with them yet. The chips huge size should provide them with lots of dies with several faulty core blocks; which nVidia's always used for most of their mid/upper range quadro cards in the past.Ktracho - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
The Geforce Titan is less expensive than the Quadro K4000. If someone actually needs a strong FP64 GPU but can't afford the Titan, maybe a Fermi card will work.MojaMonkey - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
I'm using a Lenovo S430 with an external thunderbolt graphics card. It's an external nVidia GTX 680.It's an option if you need a laptop on the go and also need desktop graphics when at home.
stunted1 - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
Despite being new ASICs, I'm having a hard time understanding what is compelling about these products. I was looking for something more competitive. Based on link below, it looks like the FirePro cards offer more performance...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhjCEDmU9jA
ShieTar - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
As far as I remember, any comparison test between Quadro and FirePro over the last 3 years has shown a strong dependence on the specific software used for the benchmark, even more so than with consumer cards and games. So the FirePro is faster by 100% or 200% for some tasks, and slower by 80% for others.stunted1 - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
My interest is SolidWorks specific, where I am seeing great FirePro performance (I have one, and use the application), and the video shows it too. Honestly, I can't speak to other applications, but if it is this much better in SolidWorks, I would expect similar advantages on other CAD applications using OpenGL (or not 80% less), but I'm not in a position to confirm that (with a card, or the applications).Regardless, I thought it was nice to see real application performance, vs. viewperf numbers, which seem to have no relationship with the application itself.
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - link
LOL - Yes amd fanboy, the card you bought is the best at everything. Now go bow to Abu Dhabi.CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - link
Yeah, just like if you only want to do bitcoin, although if your evidence is a single youtube video, I'd say stay ignorant and happy.Just make certain you stay convinced because amd will be stomped again.
When it disappears soon, your "investment" support goes with it.
thampter14 - Wednesday, April 3, 2013 - link
Well, he did mention that he is using SolidWorks, a professional application, which is what these products are optimized for. So I'm guessing that this is not one of those "stay ignorant and happy" situations. He's not a gamer. Maybe you are on the wrong thread and should go stomp elsewhere. :)tonibello - Wednesday, July 3, 2013 - link
’d like to know as soon as I can whhich is the major difference between Nvidia k600 and k2000 (except the price obviously). I’d like to change my old graphic board:Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 @ 2.50GHz
Yorkfield 45nm
RAM
6.00GB DDR3 @ 531 MHz (7-7-7-20)
Scheda Madre
PEGATRON CORPORATION Eureka3 (CPU 1) 42 °C
Grafica
1024 MBATI Radeon HD 4650 (MSI)
Dischi Drive
932GB Western Digital WDC WD10EADS-65M2B0 ATA Device (SATA)
I can’t try it before so I am asking suggestion. I manage huge autocad files with big about 65 to 85MB and my autocad (I suppose because of the graphic card) hang continuously. The CPU seems not overloaded neither ram ... but autocad hangs !