A good start and fills an important void, but so far it seems to be mostly a very long monologue by Anand. It is a shame to have three people on the podcast without any real interaction. Also, these should be much shorter, ideally less than an hour. For example you could break it up into 2 shorter episodes per week. Also, the authors should take turns introducing news items, that makes the speakers more equal, rather than Anand getting to introduce every topic and the others left to comment. It probably doesn't help that you are not all in the same room, but if you listen to the Java Posse for example, they make it work, even when they are not in the same room. In any case, I'll keep listening because it is hard to find this content anywhere else and thanks for putting this together.
Disagree, the length is perfect, don't shorten it. I don't understand the drive to request shorter podcasts that always seems to sneak into early discussion about a newly created one. Just listen to half and come back to the other half later :)
I was initially put off when I saw the length of these podcasts, but once I started listening, I was completely hooked. It's also entertaining to now be able to associate your voices with your written articles. Strong work.
Regarding the section of the podcast where you discuss the trend of online tech journalists regurgitating unsubstantiated posts from some corner of the Internet until the whole world is convinced they are true, it is very clear that Anandtech strives to do things differently and shares an overwhelming amount of empirical data generated in-house. This is one of the primary reasons I keep coming back. However, in podcast #2 you helped to propagate the latest inaccurate story about Thunderbolt—that the Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter doesn't actually contain a Thunderbolt controller.
It was interesting to hear you discuss the implications of this being true, because if it were, it complicates the Thunderbolt model considerably. It bothered me enough that I decided to find out for myself, after all, these adapters are only $29. Anyway, there is indeed a DSL2210 Port Ridge controller in the Thunderbolt connector end of the adapter. At 6x5 mm, Hardmac just didn't notice it when they did their teardown, yet conclusions based on their incomplete findings are now available on tech sites everywhere... Sort of like NFC in the next iPhone.
Here's a gallery of a teardown of the newer Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter: http://imgur.com/a/cbx9T
Thanks for these podcasts guys, they really are a lot of fun to listen to. The free form style of just riffing off a few topics works really well. Looking forward to your thesis on the trouble with the tech news echo chamber in the not too distant future :)
In regards to the future of OEMs, maybe it can be analogous to what you see in the car industry. While most manufacturers are fully vertically integrated, there is still room for flexibility. (Which is a model consumers have accepted, since forever, so sadly, dumping your laptop instead of upgrading is more likely, as it is consumer-driven in the purest sense).
You have your high end, which would be those at the forefront of this pc device-ification. While most others are also vertically integrated, there is more grey areas. Cars often share chassis with others, they sell designs, etc. This could be where the Nexus design comes in, and others still tweak to their own designs.
Or perhaps those that don't integrate vertically will fill more of the "generic" space of manufacturers. Maybe they can fill the role of a Kia or Hyundai =P. They will be there more to undercut, for the same features?
Anand, you ask about what technology evolutions look like in regards to SSDs in the hard drive industry. This book examines this exact issue, looking back over 30+ years of the hard drive industry.
Just wanted to throw out my usage model for my V.Raptor in my system. I run 2 intel SSDs, one for the OS and the other for mostly games. I also have a 2 TB drive for storage. My V.Raptor (300gb drive) is used for primarily anything I don't want to waste cycles on my SSD but still need more speed that the storage drive offers. Video and audio converting, less frequently used programs, and files I transfer between this pc and other devices are generally loaded on it.
Good episode. The sound issues have been resolved as well, i see. Liked the part about NFC very much.
I would love to hear someone on the staff go on an extended rant on Apple's patent trolling as well. Although it won't bode too well with Apple if you do it on record, perhaps?
I really liked the discussion of SoC's and OEM's but multiple times you guys held back some thoughts because you felt you were being too speculative. Don't. It is good to get some insight to where you think things will go and the reasons you think they will as long as you properly label as your own predictions. Also don't be afraid to stick your neck out about predicting the future out of fear that you'll be wrong. It is the future, no one knows what is going to happen but find some pride in things you got right.
Also I wish there was a bit more about Hot Chips with other big iron chips, mainly the POWER7+ and the new SPARC chips.
I like the bit about storage, hard drives and SSD. You guys danced around the idea of SSD caching, speed vs. capacity but didn't touch the key feature missing from bringing all of this together for consumers: a new mainstream file system. The server space has ZFS and a new file system introduced in Windows 2012 but consumers are still stuck with NTFS and HFS+ for the decade.
I look forward to more of these. I'd like to throw out the suggestion of what you feel would make the ultimate motherboard or the ultimate video card and compare that to what you see on the market today. Maybe throw out a few ideas for niche products you'd like to see.
I like how the Anandtech team are willing to jump into the technical details, such as the iPhone screen rumors and how it would likely be implemented. Keep it up!
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tom1l21 - Monday, September 3, 2012 - link
Keep up the great work guys, really digging these podcasts so far.gradjoh - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
A good start and fills an important void, but so far it seems to be mostly a very long monologue by Anand. It is a shame to have three people on the podcast without any real interaction. Also, these should be much shorter, ideally less than an hour. For example you could break it up into 2 shorter episodes per week. Also, the authors should take turns introducing news items, that makes the speakers more equal, rather than Anand getting to introduce every topic and the others left to comment. It probably doesn't help that you are not all in the same room, but if you listen to the Java Posse for example, they make it work, even when they are not in the same room. In any case, I'll keep listening because it is hard to find this content anywhere else and thanks for putting this together.dishayu - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link
The length is perfect, IMO. It doesn't feel rushed or streched. 1:45 is good for me, personally.Tegeril - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link
Disagree, the length is perfect, don't shorten it. I don't understand the drive to request shorter podcasts that always seems to sneak into early discussion about a newly created one. Just listen to half and come back to the other half later :)GrizzledYoungMan - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link
Yeah, I'm with you. The length is ideal, gives them time to get nerdy and dig in, which I really like.repoman27 - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
I was initially put off when I saw the length of these podcasts, but once I started listening, I was completely hooked. It's also entertaining to now be able to associate your voices with your written articles. Strong work.Regarding the section of the podcast where you discuss the trend of online tech journalists regurgitating unsubstantiated posts from some corner of the Internet until the whole world is convinced they are true, it is very clear that Anandtech strives to do things differently and shares an overwhelming amount of empirical data generated in-house. This is one of the primary reasons I keep coming back. However, in podcast #2 you helped to propagate the latest inaccurate story about Thunderbolt—that the Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter doesn't actually contain a Thunderbolt controller.
It was interesting to hear you discuss the implications of this being true, because if it were, it complicates the Thunderbolt model considerably. It bothered me enough that I decided to find out for myself, after all, these adapters are only $29. Anyway, there is indeed a DSL2210 Port Ridge controller in the Thunderbolt connector end of the adapter. At 6x5 mm, Hardmac just didn't notice it when they did their teardown, yet conclusions based on their incomplete findings are now available on tech sites everywhere... Sort of like NFC in the next iPhone.
Here's a gallery of a teardown of the newer Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter: http://imgur.com/a/cbx9T
QuesoLoco - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
The sound quality for this one is the best yet.Whatever you did to get rid of the static and voice fading, keep doing that!
jibberegg - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
Thanks for these podcasts guys, they really are a lot of fun to listen to. The free form style of just riffing off a few topics works really well. Looking forward to your thesis on the trouble with the tech news echo chamber in the not too distant future :)EnzoFX - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
In regards to the future of OEMs, maybe it can be analogous to what you see in the car industry. While most manufacturers are fully vertically integrated, there is still room for flexibility. (Which is a model consumers have accepted, since forever, so sadly, dumping your laptop instead of upgrading is more likely, as it is consumer-driven in the purest sense).You have your high end, which would be those at the forefront of this pc device-ification. While most others are also vertically integrated, there is more grey areas. Cars often share chassis with others, they sell designs, etc. This could be where the Nexus design comes in, and others still tweak to their own designs.
Or perhaps those that don't integrate vertically will fill more of the "generic" space of manufacturers. Maybe they can fill the role of a Kia or Hyundai =P. They will be there more to undercut, for the same features?
donopj2 - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
Mentioning the comment about the Battery Fairy made this podcastLoki726 - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
Anand, you ask about what technology evolutions look like in regards to SSDs in the hard drive industry. This book examines this exact issue, looking back over 30+ years of the hard drive industry.http://www.amazon.com/The-Innovators-Dilemma-Revol...
Peanutsrevenge - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
Check this offer on top SSDshttp://www.scan.co.uk/shops/sitepage.aspx?SSPID=98...
Friend already had a 120 in his new rig, ended up ordering another given the price and may get one more.
CyborgTMT - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
Just wanted to throw out my usage model for my V.Raptor in my system. I run 2 intel SSDs, one for the OS and the other for mostly games. I also have a 2 TB drive for storage. My V.Raptor (300gb drive) is used for primarily anything I don't want to waste cycles on my SSD but still need more speed that the storage drive offers. Video and audio converting, less frequently used programs, and files I transfer between this pc and other devices are generally loaded on it.dishayu - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link
Good episode. The sound issues have been resolved as well, i see. Liked the part about NFC very much.I would love to hear someone on the staff go on an extended rant on Apple's patent trolling as well. Although it won't bode too well with Apple if you do it on record, perhaps?
Kevin G - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link
I really liked the discussion of SoC's and OEM's but multiple times you guys held back some thoughts because you felt you were being too speculative. Don't. It is good to get some insight to where you think things will go and the reasons you think they will as long as you properly label as your own predictions. Also don't be afraid to stick your neck out about predicting the future out of fear that you'll be wrong. It is the future, no one knows what is going to happen but find some pride in things you got right.Also I wish there was a bit more about Hot Chips with other big iron chips, mainly the POWER7+ and the new SPARC chips.
I like the bit about storage, hard drives and SSD. You guys danced around the idea of SSD caching, speed vs. capacity but didn't touch the key feature missing from bringing all of this together for consumers: a new mainstream file system. The server space has ZFS and a new file system introduced in Windows 2012 but consumers are still stuck with NTFS and HFS+ for the decade.
I look forward to more of these. I'd like to throw out the suggestion of what you feel would make the ultimate motherboard or the ultimate video card and compare that to what you see on the market today. Maybe throw out a few ideas for niche products you'd like to see.
GrizzledYoungMan - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link
Seriously, best tech podcast out there. Buttery smooth and thoughtful.Wow, we sound like bots.
boshi - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link
I like how the Anandtech team are willing to jump into the technical details, such as the iPhone screen rumors and how it would likely be implemented. Keep it up!Meaker10 - Thursday, September 6, 2012 - link
Was £43 inc vat delivered actually (free delivery for forum members)Saruji - Friday, September 7, 2012 - link
The URL for this podcast is http://www.anandtech.com/rss/podcastIn case anyone else was looking for it, to add to their players
Saruji - Friday, September 7, 2012 - link
Ops, it ishttp://www.anandtech.com/rss/podcastm4a
Gibson12345 - Friday, September 7, 2012 - link
These podcasts are great. I love the length and subject matter.Tell Ian to talk more! It's obvious he's super bright and has insightful things to add, but he's far too polite to interject.
kahwaji_n - Friday, September 7, 2012 - link
Finally an interesting tech podcast ,keep up the good job guys :)