So you are waiting for win8... Win8 will improve very much DPI scaling, but the programs allso have to support that and it can take time...
But you are very right. Better resolution screen reguires good DPI scaling and that is one of those good things in Win8. These allso seems to be touch screen laptops, so it is easy to see what they are after.
Win8's DPI scaling is the same as Win7 on the desktop, it is substantially improved in Metro though. Which is great... as long as you never need to use the desktop. Unfortunately, many people will.
I've seen AIO systems with multitouch; but not any stand alone displays.
At the risk of sounding overly cynical I'd expect foot dragging on the latter since there's more money to be made selling $1000 computers than $200 monitors.
At the risk of being even more cynical than DanNeely, I have no desire whatsoever to reach up and touch my large LCD rather than using a mouse. For a kiosk touchscreens make sense, but on my home PC? Ugh. I already try to avoid reaching for a mouse most of the time if I can use a keyboard shortcut, and I hate fingerprints on my displays. The few times I've played with large touchscreen PCs, it just feels totally out of place IMO. It's a tablet UI forced onto desktop and laptop users. Anand, Brian, and Ryan went off on this in the last podcast. Anyway, others can have touchscreen desktops if they want; I'm sticking with my 30" LCD. :)
Why would you use touch on a desktop? It's not designed for that or even for tablets, we won't be switching devices all the sudden and not use notebooks and desktops/workstations and stop do any work, obviously the software engineers sits there writing the software and testing it on normal laptops and standard notebooks is where your gonna run Windows, without touch. Metro/Tiles is just a sandboxed environment for Windows Store-apps. It's still Win32 underneath it's just a schizophrenic abstraction. That desktop apps can't be immersive and Metro apps can't run in desktop mode is just ludicrous and stupid. Choosing two methodologists and metaphor/styles running side by side doesn't make it meant for low-end tablets. It's still the same OS as before with the same target market and hardware. It's not a change to drop traditional clients or even change them. The desktop continues to be developed and is the primary environment. Unless you mean a Wacom/N-trig pennable screen I can't see the point for a touch-enabled 24-27" display. You certainly won't be in a position to touch them, neither would you really need to look at where your hands are when using a navigation device so why start.
It's not like you watch the stick shift when you change gears and a multitouch and accurate touchpad is so much better then touching the screen on a desktop/notebook, you don't loose gestures only making them more powerful and useful to skip touch as a navigation tool. Touch screen is extremely useful when it's your only input method but that is on sub 800 gram tablets and devices. You simply don't navigate that way on clients/desktops, and as far as painting and writing goes, on desktops you will probably be better of with a wacom tablet.
At least I don't crave for a future where you got to hug your 20-30" display sitting inches from it at most and having touch (finger) as your only and primary means of input. It's just so much more impractical to a touchpad or touch mouse or even old fashion mouse or pointing stick. Lifting your hand off the keyboard even is a real killer in real life use. Hurt productivity and is a mental pain if your working in a business environment.
I wonder why the article completely misses the #1 feature of the tablets - they have built-in wacom pen to be written on. $1199 pricing is actually VERY affordable considering the form factor, full HD PLS screen and spec.
No excuse for a $1200 laptop not having 8GB of RAM, but other than that the 7-slate looks damn interesting. Significantly larger screen than my Nexus7, but smaller than my 14" laptop. Doubt it has Thunderbolt, but that would really complete the package for me.
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sciwizam - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
Looks like Samsung has a prototype 13.3" Series 9 with a matte 2560x1440 display at IFA. Get to production, Sammy.http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/31/3282360/samsung-...
ImSpartacus - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
11.6" 1080p, 13.3" 1440p? I could get used to that.DanNeely - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
Not unless windows gets DPI scaling improved significantly.haukionkannel - Saturday, September 1, 2012 - link
So you are waiting for win8... Win8 will improve very much DPI scaling, but the programs allso have to support that and it can take time...But you are very right. Better resolution screen reguires good DPI scaling and that is one of those good things in Win8. These allso seems to be touch screen laptops, so it is easy to see what they are after.
Rand - Monday, September 3, 2012 - link
Win8's DPI scaling is the same as Win7 on the desktop, it is substantially improved in Metro though.Which is great... as long as you never need to use the desktop. Unfortunately, many people will.
Spivonious - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
Hey, you have to start somewhere. Windows has supported high DPI screens since at least XP, but app developers haven't built it in.That said, most of the desktop apps I use have no problem running at 120dpi, so at least some devs are supporting it.
rruscio - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
Is it too soon to expect proper full size touchscreens for Win8 on desktops?DanNeely - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
I've seen AIO systems with multitouch; but not any stand alone displays.At the risk of sounding overly cynical I'd expect foot dragging on the latter since there's more money to be made selling $1000 computers than $200 monitors.
ImSpartacus - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
Not before we seen capacitive AIOs. Perhaps at the same time, but not before.JarredWalton - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
At the risk of being even more cynical than DanNeely, I have no desire whatsoever to reach up and touch my large LCD rather than using a mouse. For a kiosk touchscreens make sense, but on my home PC? Ugh. I already try to avoid reaching for a mouse most of the time if I can use a keyboard shortcut, and I hate fingerprints on my displays. The few times I've played with large touchscreen PCs, it just feels totally out of place IMO. It's a tablet UI forced onto desktop and laptop users. Anand, Brian, and Ryan went off on this in the last podcast. Anyway, others can have touchscreen desktops if they want; I'm sticking with my 30" LCD. :)Spivonious - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link
Have you seen the new Dell AIO that pivots down almost flat, like a drafting table? I think touch would definitely make sense on that.Penti - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
Why would you use touch on a desktop? It's not designed for that or even for tablets, we won't be switching devices all the sudden and not use notebooks and desktops/workstations and stop do any work, obviously the software engineers sits there writing the software and testing it on normal laptops and standard notebooks is where your gonna run Windows, without touch. Metro/Tiles is just a sandboxed environment for Windows Store-apps. It's still Win32 underneath it's just a schizophrenic abstraction. That desktop apps can't be immersive and Metro apps can't run in desktop mode is just ludicrous and stupid. Choosing two methodologists and metaphor/styles running side by side doesn't make it meant for low-end tablets. It's still the same OS as before with the same target market and hardware. It's not a change to drop traditional clients or even change them. The desktop continues to be developed and is the primary environment. Unless you mean a Wacom/N-trig pennable screen I can't see the point for a touch-enabled 24-27" display. You certainly won't be in a position to touch them, neither would you really need to look at where your hands are when using a navigation device so why start.It's not like you watch the stick shift when you change gears and a multitouch and accurate touchpad is so much better then touching the screen on a desktop/notebook, you don't loose gestures only making them more powerful and useful to skip touch as a navigation tool. Touch screen is extremely useful when it's your only input method but that is on sub 800 gram tablets and devices. You simply don't navigate that way on clients/desktops, and as far as painting and writing goes, on desktops you will probably be better of with a wacom tablet.
At least I don't crave for a future where you got to hug your 20-30" display sitting inches from it at most and having touch (finger) as your only and primary means of input. It's just so much more impractical to a touchpad or touch mouse or even old fashion mouse or pointing stick. Lifting your hand off the keyboard even is a real killer in real life use. Hurt productivity and is a mental pain if your working in a business environment.
damianrobertjones - Sunday, September 2, 2012 - link
You can already buy themlord69 - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
Does anybody know anything about Clover Trail's HD decoding capabilities?I wonder if it could decode 1080p videos for example as good as exynos.....
nerd1 - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
I wonder why the article completely misses the #1 feature of the tablets - they have built-in wacom pen to be written on. $1199 pricing is actually VERY affordable considering the form factor, full HD PLS screen and spec.ilkhan - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link
No excuse for a $1200 laptop not having 8GB of RAM, but other than that the 7-slate looks damn interesting. Significantly larger screen than my Nexus7, but smaller than my 14" laptop. Doubt it has Thunderbolt, but that would really complete the package for me.charliem76 - Saturday, September 1, 2012 - link
Can they please cram that 1080 11.6 screen into a notebook? I don't really care if it's touch enabled or not. Preferrably an i5/a8 or better.ramiro - Saturday, November 10, 2012 - link
where can you buy this in canada??? thanks