Not to be a dick but there are so many grammatical errors and awkward or fragmented sentences in this article that it made it hard to read.
"convert to an 6-pin connector" "According to that Rosewill stands up to Antec." "At best GlobeFan is slightly better than Yate Loon, but we don't want to overdo things." ?? "All cables got the same black cable sleeving."
These are just a few examples. Maybe I'm being nit-picky but one of the reasons I read this site is for well written, well thought out articles and I did not feel this article was either of those.
Seconded. I had to re-read the first sentence "Since we've had a ~40$ PSU roundup of late" I questioned if it should have read "we haven't had." Perhaps "Since we've had a ~$40 PSU roundup recently" would have made it more clear.
We know from previous reviews/comments that English is a second language for the author. Most of us would be hard pressed to be write as fluently in a language outside of our native tongue.
I appreciate the author's considerable knowledge of power supplies, including fans, bearings, and internal components - minor grammatical errors or awkwardness aside.
I also get agitated when I read poor English, especially when sentences could be interpreted in two different ways depending on how I try to "fix" then in my head. But you know what? Screw it. It's a great review from someone who knows their stuff, and I'm paying for it with little more than my free time. Keep on writing articles like these, grammatically correct or not.
Sorry -- Martin posted without going through one of the native-English speakers. I'm editing/proofing the article now, but it will be a couple hours before I can finish. Thanks for your patience!
The Ripple Results link at the very end is wrong, it goes to the admin side, instead of the public side. It should be http://www.anandtech.com/show/5698
Also not trying to be a jerk. If you're going to talk about how expensive it is on the first page, then tell me the price. I had to search for it and then finally found the price listed on the last page.
I have to agree with the other commenters. This article is well below the quality level I've come to expect from Anandtech.com. Excepting the images, every aspect is substandard. The edits in response to the other comments helped, but several parts (esp. the conclusion page) are still painful to read. I don't recognize the author, and I don't want to hate on him; however, this article reads like a very early rough draft.
Very good review, despite grammar patrol, Rosewill is doing very well in price/performance/quality here. I also find the Capstone line moredesirablee in price, especially when discounted.
Was challenged to find a good PS under $100 and shopped for single 12v rail unit.
More challenging than I anticipated, but much easier to wade through than the benenfits of bronze vs platinum vs gold ect. Customer loves Seasonic and usually buys their Platinum 850W .
Ended up with another Seasonic : SeaSonic M12II 650 SS-650AM 650W BRONZE Semi-modular . Good quaility and happy client.
Got lucky was on sale, and dropped pretty close to disty price without a min or freight .
In my tired Core i5 750 running a Rosewill 600W $40 special - with no big video to drive and no other PS below $70 really standing out has been a budget driven decision that has held up.
"In short, Bronze gets you 95% of the efficiency of Gold for about 2/3 the cost, and 92% of the efficiency of Platinum for about half the price. A typical system that draws around 75W at idle would save 8W going from Bronze to Platinum. At that rate and paying $0.10 per kWh, you save $7 per year when running the PC 24/7. For servers and other PCs that are on 24/7 already and consume a lot more power, efficiency can make a lot of sense (e.g. power savings of around $40 per year for a 500W server using the same $0.10 per kWh), but for home users there needs to be something more than just pure efficiency to make the increased cost worthwhile"
Why ON earth must a PSU treated from a economical viewpoint? Just because there is a saving dosent mean that that have to be compared to the investment? Are PRIVATEs now all bound to corporate investment rules? A PSU is one of few products you can buy were it is possible to save energy / money, still it is a PRODUCT and should be treated as a iPHONE or a any other product. Do you private buyer have any other source were you can do savings/investments at a higher rate / lower risk than a PSU? Therefor leave all discussions of pure savings OUT of the reviews of PSUs.
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benji720 - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Not to be a dick but there are so many grammatical errors and awkward or fragmented sentences in this article that it made it hard to read."convert to an 6-pin connector"
"According to that Rosewill stands up to Antec."
"At best GlobeFan is slightly better than Yate Loon, but we don't want to overdo things." ??
"All cables got the same black cable sleeving."
These are just a few examples. Maybe I'm being nit-picky but one of the reasons I read this site is for well written, well thought out articles and I did not feel this article was either of those.
pattycake0147 - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Seconded. I had to re-read the first sentence "Since we've had a ~40$ PSU roundup of late" I questioned if it should have read "we haven't had." Perhaps "Since we've had a ~$40 PSU roundup recently" would have made it more clear.TrackSmart - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
We know from previous reviews/comments that English is a second language for the author. Most of us would be hard pressed to be write as fluently in a language outside of our native tongue.I appreciate the author's considerable knowledge of power supplies, including fans, bearings, and internal components - minor grammatical errors or awkwardness aside.
aliceyoung - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
I also get agitated when I read poor English, especially when sentences could be interpreted in two different ways depending on how I try to "fix" then in my head. But you know what? Screw it. It's a great review from someone who knows their stuff, and I'm paying for it with little more than my free time.Keep on writing articles like these, grammatically correct or not.
JarredWalton - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Sorry -- Martin posted without going through one of the native-English speakers. I'm editing/proofing the article now, but it will be a couple hours before I can finish. Thanks for your patience!extide - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
The Ripple Results link at the very end is wrong, it goes to the admin side, instead of the public side. It should be http://www.anandtech.com/show/5698JarredWalton - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Fixed, thanks! I didn't check all the URLs as I didn't expect any to link to our admin pages. :-)The0ne - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Agreed. This is quite bad.JarredWalton - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Still? I just finished editing, so if you find any major grammar/spelling issues remaining please let me know.benji720 - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
No, it is much better! Thank you for your editing prowess, sir.pattycake0147 - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Also not trying to be a jerk. If you're going to talk about how expensive it is on the first page, then tell me the price. I had to search for it and then finally found the price listed on the last page.doctormonroe - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
In the article it states that the warranty length is 5 years, however according to Rosewill's product page the Fortress-450 has a 7 year warranty.http://www.rosewill.com/products/2286/ProductDetai...
justaviking - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Article is not consistent with itself:Page 2 says "7-year warranty"
Page 6 says "5-year warranty"
radbmw - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Warranty is 7 years according to Newegg, as well.Uritziel - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
I have to agree with the other commenters. This article is well below the quality level I've come to expect from Anandtech.com. Excepting the images, every aspect is substandard. The edits in response to the other comments helped, but several parts (esp. the conclusion page) are still painful to read. I don't recognize the author, and I don't want to hate on him; however, this article reads like a very early rough draft.infoilrator - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
Very good review, despite grammar patrol,Rosewill is doing very well in price/performance/quality here. I also find the Capstone line moredesirablee in price, especially when discounted.
bobbozzo - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
bottom of page 2, change 37W to 37A.bobbozzo - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
page 6: "performancs" should be performance.tynopik - Friday, September 14, 2012 - link
I do appreciate the breakdown of where exactly each connector is on each cable.But I would like to see more punishment of the PSUs. How do they hold up in extreme situations?
There have been reports that some PSUs don't work well with square-wave UPSs.
Do they hold up in hot conditions?
How do they handle low voltage (brownout) conditions? (say 90V)
How do they handle voltage swings? (Hook them up to a variac, start twisting the dial and see what kind of transients you can generate)
If they face a large load at once (say a bunch of hard drives spinning up simultaneously), how does it maintain the voltage levels?
If you short out a cable, will you blow up anything?
wrkingclass_hero - Saturday, September 15, 2012 - link
Someone get this man a job at Anandtech.Jerman - Saturday, September 15, 2012 - link
Minor gramattical error on the final page:but the Rosewill Fortress 450W is currently one the most advanced consumer power supply available.
Forgot an "of" after one... Thanks for the great article though!
jigglywiggly - Monday, September 17, 2012 - link
you guys are such fagetsi read this just fine
if you get pissed off over gramatical errors on the internet
you're going to have a bad time
pattycake0147 - Monday, September 17, 2012 - link
That's because you're reading it after the editing. I'm reading it again now, and I agree that it does read fine now. Thanks for the improvements AT.KenRico - Monday, September 17, 2012 - link
Was challenged to find a good PS under $100 and shopped for single 12v rail unit.More challenging than I anticipated, but much easier to wade through than the benenfits of bronze vs platinum vs gold ect. Customer loves Seasonic and usually buys their Platinum 850W .
Ended up with another Seasonic : SeaSonic M12II 650 SS-650AM 650W BRONZE Semi-modular . Good quaility and happy client.
Got lucky was on sale, and dropped pretty close to disty price without a min or freight .
In my tired Core i5 750 running a Rosewill 600W $40 special - with no big video to drive and no other PS below $70 really standing out has been a budget driven decision that has held up.
Kenny
hasseb64 - Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - link
"In short, Bronze gets you 95% of the efficiency of Gold for about 2/3 the cost, and 92% of the efficiency of Platinum for about half the price. A typical system that draws around 75W at idle would save 8W going from Bronze to Platinum. At that rate and paying $0.10 per kWh, you save $7 per year when running the PC 24/7. For servers and other PCs that are on 24/7 already and consume a lot more power, efficiency can make a lot of sense (e.g. power savings of around $40 per year for a 500W server using the same $0.10 per kWh), but for home users there needs to be something more than just pure efficiency to make the increased cost worthwhile"Why ON earth must a PSU treated from a economical viewpoint? Just because there is a saving dosent mean that that have to be compared to the investment? Are PRIVATEs now all bound to corporate investment rules? A PSU is one of few products you can buy were it is possible to save energy / money, still it is a PRODUCT and should be treated as a iPHONE or a any other product. Do you private buyer have any other source were you can do savings/investments at a higher rate / lower risk than a PSU? Therefor leave all discussions of pure savings OUT of the reviews of PSUs.