Awesome Anand, thanks for the great up to the minute review on the retina mac.
I run Windows 7 on Parallels Desktop and Bootcamp on my macbook pro, it'll be interesting to see how Retina display is handled by windows 7 under bootcamp or VM. I know you must be already testing that.. :-)
The really funny thing is that by clicking to complain, he contributed to this article's pageviews and all AnandTech sees is "post Apple stuff, get more pageviews".
How strange --- that during WWDC, Apple's single largest interaction with the public, there would be more news about Apple than usual. Anand is clearly biased.
I look forward to AnandTech NOT providing extra Intel info during Intel Developer Forums, or about Google during IO. And, god forbid we see a whole lot about MS on this site once Win8 launches.
There was more Win 8 devices in the "pipeline" area. Would have liked to have seen more stuff though and Apple still got more pipeline coverage than all these OEM's combined. I dont want this site turning in to yet another tech site with way too much crap dedicated to Apple. If i want that i'll go to Engadget or The Verge.
Why not report on Apple? They push the industry forward in terms of portables, displays, and interfaces. Even if you hate Apple you should at least pay attention since this stuff will be showing up everywhere else in a couple years.
This "offscreen render" might explain why pinch-to-zoom sucks so hard in Chrome full screen vs Safari full screen. Why not just stick with Apple's API? I mean, text is text. It's like going from TrueType fonts to the bad old days of bitmap fonts.
My Setup: Retina MacBook pro running Windows 8 / Bootcamp Resolution: 2880x1800 DPI: 200% (Custom Setting) Bootcamp Drivers Installed
Just some information on using bootcamp and Windows 8 (and I presume 7) on retina for Chrome. As with OS X, I found Chrome to have blurry text. However, I also found that the Canary build (22.0.1214.0) for Windows does NOT address the issue.
What I DID find, however, is a somewhat workable solution.
If you set Chrome to run in compatibility mode to turn on "disable display scaling on high dpi settings", then after running chrome, within chrome settings, change the page zoom to 200%, then the display is crisp and beautiful, or at least compatible to Internet Explorer 10 in desktop mode. This worked with all versions of Chrome, not just Canary.
The PROBLEM is that, while the page renders well, the controls (tabs, address bar, settings button, etc.) are tiny.
For me, I can put up with tiny controls rather than blurry pages until a fix/update ultimately resolves the issues, and diehard chrome users may feel the same way.
As an aside, I noticed when you enable High DPI settings in Windows (again, in my case, 200%), IE actually sets all pages to "zoom" to 200% anyway. I guess this is similar to what I mentioned above for Chrome, although this is automatically set by IE.
As another aside, I noticed in my setup that IE back/forward buttons are tiny, so is the address bar, tabs, etc. I only mention it because it seems to be exactly the same problem as Chrome using the settings I mentioned above with high dpi display like the rMBP.
Anyway, hopefully this helps someone using bootcamp in the interim until Microsoft/Google, etc. can update the software to work well on rMBP (and presumably any other HighDPI displays that may be coming).
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enkay18 - Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - link
Awesome Anand, thanks for the great up to the minute review on the retina mac.I run Windows 7 on Parallels Desktop and Bootcamp on my macbook pro, it'll be interesting to see how Retina display is handled by windows 7 under bootcamp or VM. I know you must be already testing that.. :-)
MadMan007 - Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - link
So glad you posted this, because there wasn't enough 'news' about Apple stuff lately!Devo2007 - Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - link
Nobody made you click the link. This is worthwhile news to those who read the original article.(Wait, why am I responding to a troll again?)
tim851 - Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - link
The really funny thing is that by clicking to complain, he contributed to this article's pageviews and all AnandTech sees is "post Apple stuff, get more pageviews".Origin64 - Thursday, June 14, 2012 - link
Feedest notte yon trolles!name99 - Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - link
How strange --- that during WWDC, Apple's single largest interaction with the public, there would be more news about Apple than usual. Anand is clearly biased.I look forward to AnandTech NOT providing extra Intel info during Intel Developer Forums, or about Google during IO. And, god forbid we see a whole lot about MS on this site once Win8 launches.
damianrobertjones - Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - link
There were quite a few devices announced a week ago from many oems yet we only had an article for the Acer device.... Bit odd really!B3an - Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - link
There was more Win 8 devices in the "pipeline" area. Would have liked to have seen more stuff though and Apple still got more pipeline coverage than all these OEM's combined. I dont want this site turning in to yet another tech site with way too much crap dedicated to Apple. If i want that i'll go to Engadget or The Verge.KoolAidMan1 - Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - link
Why not report on Apple? They push the industry forward in terms of portables, displays, and interfaces. Even if you hate Apple you should at least pay attention since this stuff will be showing up everywhere else in a couple years.adfrost - Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - link
This "offscreen render" might explain why pinch-to-zoom sucks so hard in Chrome full screen vs Safari full screen. Why not just stick with Apple's API? I mean, text is text. It's like going from TrueType fonts to the bad old days of bitmap fonts.habadacus - Sunday, July 22, 2012 - link
Hey all,My Setup:
Retina MacBook pro running Windows 8 / Bootcamp
Resolution: 2880x1800
DPI: 200% (Custom Setting)
Bootcamp Drivers Installed
Just some information on using bootcamp and Windows 8 (and I presume 7) on retina for Chrome. As with OS X, I found Chrome to have blurry text. However, I also found that the Canary build (22.0.1214.0) for Windows does NOT address the issue.
What I DID find, however, is a somewhat workable solution.
Inspired by this post here:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chro...
If you set Chrome to run in compatibility mode to turn on "disable display scaling on high dpi settings", then after running chrome, within chrome settings, change the page zoom to 200%, then the display is crisp and beautiful, or at least compatible to Internet Explorer 10 in desktop mode. This worked with all versions of Chrome, not just Canary.
The PROBLEM is that, while the page renders well, the controls (tabs, address bar, settings button, etc.) are tiny.
For me, I can put up with tiny controls rather than blurry pages until a fix/update ultimately resolves the issues, and diehard chrome users may feel the same way.
As an aside, I noticed when you enable High DPI settings in Windows (again, in my case, 200%), IE actually sets all pages to "zoom" to 200% anyway. I guess this is similar to what I mentioned above for Chrome, although this is automatically set by IE.
As another aside, I noticed in my setup that IE back/forward buttons are tiny, so is the address bar, tabs, etc. I only mention it because it seems to be exactly the same problem as Chrome using the settings I mentioned above with high dpi display like the rMBP.
Anyway, hopefully this helps someone using bootcamp in the interim until Microsoft/Google, etc. can update the software to work well on rMBP (and presumably any other HighDPI displays that may be coming).