I think you need to get in contact with NV and ask if they are serious about these specs and cards being real, because surely they can't be this ridiculous.
Is it legal to name three completely different products the same exact thing? I'm sure they all have different part numbers stamped on the card and box somewhere, but seriously... this is ****ed up. I already thought it was BS that they can repackage old cards with new names, but this is shadier than anything I've seen before.
-1 for Nvidia, last Card i bought was a gtx560 after AMDs high-price policy for hd 77xx, but i am starting to regret it. I just dont like it when companies try to fool their customers - oh well, guess this is called 'marketing'.
Seriously the GK107 of the GT440 with the GDDR5 looks like a good card. Sub-75w and 384 cores may put it on a showdown with the radeon 7750. They are ruining a good card with bad branding.
Yeah, the 7750 is approximately 1/4 of the performance of the 7970. The best GT 640 is has slightly less than 1/4 of the cores of a GTX 680. Seeing as how the GTX 680 beats the 7970 they should be trading blows depending on the game.
I can't help but think Nvidia is trying to make it harder for people buying laptops and budget computers to tell what they are actually getting here.
It simply shouldn't be that hard for the kind of person who buys a pre-built to tell what he's getting; there is too much confusion already, and many a customer is sold a machine that looks like a good deal but really isn't because the parts actually used aren't what they appear to be to those not doing detailed research. Mixing Fermi and Kepler SKUs is ridiculous.
I tend to buy Nvidia over AMD, everything else being equal, but this kind of thing disgusts me. If you want to know why many people have a bad attitude towards big corporations, you can start by looking at practices like this. Only a crook tries to befuddle and confuse his customer.
Despite having inferior, power hungry product, nVidia continued to dominate the market (60% vs 40% as of May 2011). Do you think they would achieve that without tricks like that? (comparing cherry picked overclocked cards vs stock on, coough, some review sites)
I would say people like you who live in some kind of woo-woo land where you make up your own "facts" to support your beliefs are part of the problem, not the solution.
Really looking forward to seeing these new mid/high-end kepler cards reviewed, specifically in terms of idle TDP vs max performance. If the idle is under ~10W, AND performance at least matches AMDs 7700-series, then NVidia will be going in my next mini-ITX linux build.
"Accordingly, our best advice for buying an OEM desktop is the same as buying an OEM laptop: make sure you research what you're getting if you want faster GPU performance. It may not be possible to tell what video card is in use until a product has been reviewed."
Seems like the best advice for someone buying an OEM desktop is just buy a separate video card since you can't tell what you are getting with Nvidia's naming scheme.
GT640, GT640 and GT640 isn't it a little late for an April Fools Joke???
These video cards are getting harder to sort out every year. I was thinking about getting a GT 570 but wanted to wait and see if there would be a 670 or a rockin' 660 /650 series that was close to GT 570. Now I have my doubts, maybe I will buy an AMD card instead...
You mean GTX 570? There is no "GT" 570. This is part of the problem, of course, though it''s a bit clearer that the GT series is much lower powered than the GTX series.
Before you buy a new video card, be sure to consider the amount of memory for your purpose. The standard 1280 MB on a GTX 570 isn't all that much these days.. That's a big reason Nvidia developed FXAA, it's much more memory efficient, which is one reason they went with 2GB of graphics card memory on the GTX 680 instead of the 3GB AMD put on their 7970 - they could afford to keep the cost down using less memory without giving up any performance, comparatively speaking.
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Lonyo - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
I think you need to get in contact with NV and ask if they are serious about these specs and cards being real, because surely they can't be this ridiculous.MrSpadge - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Just don't forget to bring your baseball bat along...ViRGE - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Wouldn't the crowbar (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5777/of-crowbars-and... make more sense?heffeque - Friday, April 27, 2012 - link
Yeah... also taking into consideration that the GT 630 is faster than some GT 640. What gives?Jamor - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
"The next card is the GT 640, the GT 640, and the GT 640."MrSpadge - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
That should be a quote at the bottom of the Daily Tech articles!MonkeyPaw - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Yeah, I think I'll buy one now and another later and run them in SLI! :pSeriously, nVidia. Don't name your cards on "Bring your kid to work day."
therealnickdanger - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Is it legal to name three completely different products the same exact thing? I'm sure they all have different part numbers stamped on the card and box somewhere, but seriously... this is ****ed up. I already thought it was BS that they can repackage old cards with new names, but this is shadier than anything I've seen before.For shame, NVIDIA. For shame.
gnorgel - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
-1 for Nvidia, last Card i bought was a gtx560 after AMDs high-price policy for hd 77xx, but i am starting to regret it. I just dont like it when companies try to fool their customers - oh well, guess this is called 'marketing'.Spoelie - Thursday, April 26, 2012 - link
Almost done in by their marketing games as well..Was going to recommend a GTX560 over the 6870 to my brother a few weeks ago as the GTX560 was only 13$ more.
However, I wasn't at first aware that GTX560 was NOT the same as the GTX560Ti - for which I did the initial research.
AMD's line, while not always consistent, is much more transparant.
formulav8 - Thursday, April 26, 2012 - link
Typical greedy gut nvidia. They could care less about anything but their own wellbeing even at the expense of someone elses.Metaluna - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
We should just call them all Bruce, to avoid confusionakbo - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Seriously the GK107 of the GT440 with the GDDR5 looks like a good card. Sub-75w and 384 cores may put it on a showdown with the radeon 7750. They are ruining a good card with bad branding.akbo - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
oops I mean GT 640Paul Tarnowski - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Yeah, I can see how you could mix that one up.geddarkstorm - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
I think you're still a bit off; don't you really mean the GT 640?Bumtrinket - Monday, April 30, 2012 - link
You're both wrong, it's actually the GT 640.Noobs...
IcePhase - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Yeah, the 7750 is approximately 1/4 of the performance of the 7970. The best GT 640 is has slightly less than 1/4 of the cores of a GTX 680. Seeing as how the GTX 680 beats the 7970 they should be trading blows depending on the game.My prediction:
950MHz GT 640 > 7750 > 797MHz GT 640
Sabresiberian - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
I can't help but think Nvidia is trying to make it harder for people buying laptops and budget computers to tell what they are actually getting here.It simply shouldn't be that hard for the kind of person who buys a pre-built to tell what he's getting; there is too much confusion already, and many a customer is sold a machine that looks like a good deal but really isn't because the parts actually used aren't what they appear to be to those not doing detailed research. Mixing Fermi and Kepler SKUs is ridiculous.
I tend to buy Nvidia over AMD, everything else being equal, but this kind of thing disgusts me. If you want to know why many people have a bad attitude towards big corporations, you can start by looking at practices like this. Only a crook tries to befuddle and confuse his customer.
medi01 - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Despite having inferior, power hungry product, nVidia continued to dominate the market (60% vs 40% as of May 2011). Do you think they would achieve that without tricks like that? (comparing cherry picked overclocked cards vs stock on, coough, some review sites)Sabresiberian - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
I would say people like you who live in some kind of woo-woo land where you make up your own "facts" to support your beliefs are part of the problem, not the solution.piroroadkill - Thursday, April 26, 2012 - link
That's true. Tricks do dominate, but they're not really on.zcat - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Really looking forward to seeing these new mid/high-end kepler cards reviewed, specifically in terms of idle TDP vs max performance. If the idle is under ~10W, AND performance at least matches AMDs 7700-series, then NVidia will be going in my next mini-ITX linux build.overseer - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
Instead of spitting vulgar words to the card namings, I choose to LMAO.fic2 - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
"Accordingly, our best advice for buying an OEM desktop is the same as buying an OEM laptop: make sure you research what you're getting if you want faster GPU performance. It may not be possible to tell what video card is in use until a product has been reviewed."Seems like the best advice for someone buying an OEM desktop is just buy a separate video card since you can't tell what you are getting with Nvidia's naming scheme.
Einy0 - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
GT640, GT640 and GT640 isn't it a little late for an April Fools Joke???These video cards are getting harder to sort out every year. I was thinking about getting a GT 570 but wanted to wait and see if there would be a 670 or a rockin' 660 /650 series that was close to GT 570. Now I have my doubts, maybe I will buy an AMD card instead...
Sabresiberian - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - link
You mean GTX 570? There is no "GT" 570. This is part of the problem, of course, though it''s a bit clearer that the GT series is much lower powered than the GTX series.Before you buy a new video card, be sure to consider the amount of memory for your purpose. The standard 1280 MB on a GTX 570 isn't all that much these days.. That's a big reason Nvidia developed FXAA, it's much more memory efficient, which is one reason they went with 2GB of graphics card memory on the GTX 680 instead of the 3GB AMD put on their 7970 - they could afford to keep the cost down using less memory without giving up any performance, comparatively speaking.
;)
edge929 - Thursday, April 26, 2012 - link
At least the 630 is 28nm only. Eye-balling it for an HTPC.