Having the CPU and GPU in one chip and relying on a single channel bandwidth just handicaps the performance quite a bit imo. This definitely ups the ante and would make the system lot more responsive - thinking from a tablet that will have 1920x1200 screens.
Dual channel in handheld SoC isn't the same thing as dual channel on desktops. Desktop use 2x64-bit memory buses. This I believe is just 2x32-bit just like OMAP4 has. The difference is the supported speed is up from LPDDR2-400 in OMAP4 to LPDDR2-533 in OMAP 5. Most other modern SoC also use 2x32-bit memory controllers including the Apple A5, Samsung Exynos, and Qualcomm solutions. The major player that sticks with 1x32-bit seems to be nVidia instead relying on faster memory. I believe Apple was the first to ship a 2x32-bit memory bus SoC in volume with the Apple A4.
Early 2013? That sucks! I was hoping for late 2012, but I knew in the back of my head that wasn't going to happen when TI rolled out the OMAP4470 with DirectX support that was clearly meant for Windows 8. But hopefully that won't make that big of a difference.
Not only does it have two ARM Cortex-A15 cores, but also two Cortex-M4 cores. I assume this may be for general I/O and housekeeping tasks. That thing is loaded.
Will this mean there'll be OoO ARM vs. an in-order Atom soon? Either way, this looks fun to watch, more so than the line of speed/process bumps of the past year or so.
How come Engadet is allowed to take pictures of the device that is using Texas Instruments OMAP 5 and you are not. Did you do anything mean that made them to not give you permission to take pictures. Not to make you feel bad, Engadet also is able to provide a video.
Geez... this is ancient news. It was announced back in Feb 2011. It was due for mid THIS YEAR around Summer (northern). There are two versions. One of them is this one here, that is aimed at smart phones, and the other that is more geared for Tablets / Nettops. The other uses DDR3. I will let you do the math: High-bandwidth memory interface with 8.5 GB/s • OMAP5430 – 2-channel LPDDR2 @532 MHz • OMAP5432 – 2-channel DDR3 @532 MHz
So, which chip are you covering here? The OMAP5430 or the OMAP5432? One has the LPDDR2 and the other the DDR3 /DDR3L
That is from July 2011.
So Anand, please update to show the correct information. As you can also clearly see, the image you have added is for the 5432, but hte description is for the 5430. Key difference being memory.
At a glance: Target Markets 5430: Area-sensitive (Smartphones, Tablets) 5432: Cost-sensitive (mobile computing, consumer)
I have been following this SoC since it was announced and have already reffered to it in a few of my posts ;-) It will use the two M4 for mundane tasks - i.e. in stand-by mode and phone calls etc and when you need more grunt, the A15's will kick-in.
Anand's just reporting they did a live demo of it - nothing here states this is "new" as in just announced. Next, others have to take this and now develop a phone around it.
Well... just read the article, and look at the image.
Image: OMAP5423 Description: Vague - Does not state what chip it is, or neither that there are 2 varieties. In the end, anyone WITHOUT the knowledge or inclanation to research more about it, would think there is only one version. Problem: Described is the OMAP5430 - Image OMAP5432 Major difference, MEMORY Controller - LPDDR2 of which is OMAP5430 DDR3/DDR3L is OMAP5432.
Now, can you honestly tell me there is no problem with this article? I hope I have made my point clearer.
Btw, have a look at the concept video over at T.I. Many things way before this years CES.... some from last year ;-) still gesture and pico projector, 3 screens etc.
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XZerg - Thursday, January 12, 2012 - link
Having the CPU and GPU in one chip and relying on a single channel bandwidth just handicaps the performance quite a bit imo. This definitely ups the ante and would make the system lot more responsive - thinking from a tablet that will have 1920x1200 screens.ltcommanderdata - Thursday, January 12, 2012 - link
Dual channel in handheld SoC isn't the same thing as dual channel on desktops. Desktop use 2x64-bit memory buses. This I believe is just 2x32-bit just like OMAP4 has. The difference is the supported speed is up from LPDDR2-400 in OMAP4 to LPDDR2-533 in OMAP 5. Most other modern SoC also use 2x32-bit memory controllers including the Apple A5, Samsung Exynos, and Qualcomm solutions. The major player that sticks with 1x32-bit seems to be nVidia instead relying on faster memory. I believe Apple was the first to ship a 2x32-bit memory bus SoC in volume with the Apple A4.dagamer34 - Thursday, January 12, 2012 - link
Early 2013? That sucks! I was hoping for late 2012, but I knew in the back of my head that wasn't going to happen when TI rolled out the OMAP4470 with DirectX support that was clearly meant for Windows 8. But hopefully that won't make that big of a difference.digital_dreamer - Thursday, January 12, 2012 - link
Not only does it have two ARM Cortex-A15 cores, but also two Cortex-M4 cores. I assume this may be for general I/O and housekeeping tasks. That thing is loaded.MAJ
twotwotwo - Thursday, January 12, 2012 - link
Will this mean there'll be OoO ARM vs. an in-order Atom soon? Either way, this looks fun to watch, more so than the line of speed/process bumps of the past year or so.tecknurd - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link
How come Engadet is allowed to take pictures of the device that is using Texas Instruments OMAP 5 and you are not. Did you do anything mean that made them to not give you permission to take pictures. Not to make you feel bad, Engadet also is able to provide a video.Soulkeeper - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link
are these 28nm parts going to be made at globfoundries ?extide - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link
No, TSMC. GloFo is doing 32 and 22nm.imkrispy - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link
No, globalfoundries is doing 28nmhttp://www.globalfoundries.com/eBooks/white%20pape...
whether its for these chips or not i donno
Aries1470 - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link
Geez... this is ancient news. It was announced back in Feb 2011. It was due for mid THIS YEAR around Summer (northern). There are two versions.One of them is this one here, that is aimed at smart phones, and the other that is more geared for Tablets / Nettops. The other uses DDR3.
I will let you do the math:
High-bandwidth memory interface
with 8.5 GB/s
• OMAP5430 – 2-channel LPDDR2 @532 MHz
• OMAP5432 – 2-channel DDR3 @532 MHz
So, which chip are you covering here? The OMAP5430 or the OMAP5432? One has the LPDDR2 and the other the DDR3 /DDR3L
That is from July 2011.
So Anand, please update to show the correct information. As you can also clearly see, the image you have added is for the 5432, but hte description is for the 5430. Key difference being memory.
At a glance:
Target Markets
5430: Area-sensitive (Smartphones, Tablets)
5432: Cost-sensitive (mobile computing, consumer)
Package:
5430: UART (6x), HSIC (3x), SPI (4x), MIPI® UniPortSM-M, MIPI® LLI, HSI (2x)
5432: UART (5x), HSIC (2x), SPI (3x), MIPI® UniPortSM-M, MIPI® LLI, HSI
Memory Support:
5430: (MIPI® CSI-3+ 3x MIPI® CSI-2+ CPI interfaces)
5432: (3x CSI-2+ CPI interfaces)
If you need to learn more:
http://www.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcon...
http://www.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/SWCT010.pdf
http://focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/OMAP5_2011-7-13.pdf
I have been following this SoC since it was announced and have already reffered to it in a few of my posts ;-)
It will use the two M4 for mundane tasks - i.e. in stand-by mode and phone calls etc and when you need more grunt, the A15's will kick-in.
Aries1470 - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link
Oh yes, and this link gives you a better overview of their OMAP products, of which you can choose the OMAP5 on the left ;-)http://www.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent...
sprockkets - Sunday, January 15, 2012 - link
Anand's just reporting they did a live demo of it - nothing here states this is "new" as in just announced. Next, others have to take this and now develop a phone around it.Aries1470 - Thursday, January 19, 2012 - link
Well... just read the article, and look at the image.Image: OMAP5423
Description: Vague - Does not state what chip it is, or neither that there are 2 varieties. In the end, anyone WITHOUT the knowledge or inclanation to research more about it, would think there is only one version.
Problem: Described is the OMAP5430 - Image OMAP5432
Major difference, MEMORY Controller - LPDDR2 of which is OMAP5430 DDR3/DDR3L is OMAP5432.
Now, can you honestly tell me there is no problem with this article? I hope I have made my point clearer.
Btw, have a look at the concept video over at T.I. Many things way before this years CES.... some from last year ;-) still gesture and pico projector, 3 screens etc.