The TF201 doesn't outrun any other competitors by any margin now they increase Res, but not Clock speed, sounds like another exercise in mediocrity. By then Tegra should be able to increase clocks by at least 200Mhz, preferably 700Mhz.
You could buy glasses. Well, seriously. I think that higher resolution on tablet is a must. I don't think that high resolution on cell phones make much sense but the tablet is a device that you'll use to read web sites, books, etc stuff. That's why I'm reluctant to buy any current generation tablets: the fonts in documents look blurred. On my ancient phone text looks much crisper and it has a fairly hires display. I was not very pleased with Transformer or iPad so far. I have only one concern though. I am worried about the performance on these hires displays. I would like to smooth scroll all PDF documents and websites even featuring flash and HTML5 coolness. Transformer 1 was mediocre.
15" is probably the most popular laptop screen size for years. And the resolution didn't improve that much in the last 15 or so years. It was 1024x768, then 1280x800, and now 1366x768. Not a huge increase. And web sites are usually designed for these resolutions in mind. We have reached a ceiling in which people now prefer cheaper laptops than better resolution. Of course higher resolution displays exist but they have a price. I don't understand why anyone would want a higher resolution on a 10" tablet than on his 13-17" laptop.
i want more resolution in both. if having tablets killing laptops in resolution accomplishes that, i'm in favor.
laptop resolutions have sucked ever since the pc makers decided that the only thing we do with laptops is watch movies. 1366x768 is lower in both dimensions than my 9 year old dell 600m's 1400x1050 14" screen. maybe now that people are used to zooming in and out on phones and tables, and windows 8 will hopefully implement it properly, we can start getting some actual real estate on screens.
Well you have "higher" resolution if you look at the Macbook Air and 15" MacBook Pro
11" Air 1366x768 13" Air 1440x900 15" Pro 1680x1050 (Selectable) 17" Pro 1920x1200
1920x1200 on a 10.1 Screen is actually pretty good 224 PPI, not Retina but a good improvement over iPad 1/2 (132PPI) and every 10.1 Android Tablet (1280x800) (~150PPI)
My 15" laptop has a 1080p screen. It's not particularly common yet and you're right about most people preferring lower price to more pixels, but I think there's a reasonably big market for these better resolutions on portable devices among professionals and power users. Also tablets in particular need to look absolutely stunning in order to sell well, and while you may not think you need a higher pixel density now, when you seen them next to each other you realise it really makes a difference.
I just recently received my tf201 but returned it because it appears that Asus will not be adding the plastic strip to the back of the TF201 like the TF700T. I would hate to spend an additional 100 for better reception but may need to.
As Zingam said, get your eyes checked (especially if you're over 40). My dad was complaining that he couldn't tell the difference between HD and SD content until he got himself a new pair of glasses. He's now happy that his eyes too are "HD ready"!
Asus seriously needs to get their supply problem fixed and release these early to beta testers to find any problems before the actual release instead of giving folks like Anand one week to test it before release :-O
I also agree $600 is too expensive. Release it at $500 and drop all the other prices by $100. Damned disposable things. If it ran Windows 8 as well, it'd be worth $600...at least Windows stuff doesn't seem to get obsoleted this quickly :-P
Okay so soon I'll be able to get a 10" display on a tablet with 1920x1200 but the traditional displays most people do actual work on are still stuck at 30" and 2560x1600?!
Seriously? Pull the finger out and start producing some 24"-30" 4k displays that aren't +100k SEK a pop.
If the technology is there to put it on 10" tabletdisplays what could possibly be stopping them from making desktop displays more high resolution?
I'm happy to see that they are going with the wider 16:10 ratio instead or a more narrow 1920x1080. It's not quite the ideal 4:3 format which really is easier to hold in portrait mode but it is closer. I've been disappointed that no Android tablets so far have offered 4:3 ratio screens.
I've been waiting for 1 month for Prime's release. In Canada, Transformer Prime isn't in store yet. It will hit the market next week in electronic shops.
I don't care about the graphic about a 10' tablet. But, if wireless doesn't work good, I don't want to buy the first version of Prime and regret it. I don't care about GPS too.
My question is : Is the wireless issues is a big problem about the tablet ? I want examples of problems I could have with it. I read all posts about it but I can't make myself an Idea.
2 days after I ordered mine and on the same day that it is shipped they announce this. Bleh.
And I, for one, welcome our new high-ppi overlords. With all the high-ppi displays on phones, I really felt the ipad looked terribly grainy when I first worked with it for a longer period of time.
The original prime is supposed to be better, but I imagine this new version will be an entirely different experience altogether. Too bad the sub-par graphic performance isn't updated, won't be a good gaming companion at that resolution.
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quiksilvr - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
Seriously, they should stop producing it and sell the next 32GB model for $499.Black1969ta - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
The TF201 doesn't outrun any other competitors by any margin now they increase Res, but not Clock speed, sounds like another exercise in mediocrity. By then Tegra should be able to increase clocks by at least 200Mhz, preferably 700Mhz.ltcommanderdata - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
So they have a new back panel to improve wireless performance. What about GPS? Is it still not officially supported?ImSpartacus - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
Yeah, this would be a good time to apply some mild redesigns to get better GPS support.Pino - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
I'm one of those that can't spot any difference between a 42" HD and a 42" FullHD TV.Why should I care about 1920x1200 in a 10" screen?
Zingam - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
You could buy glasses. Well, seriously. I think that higher resolution on tablet is a must. I don't think that high resolution on cell phones make much sense but the tablet is a device that you'll use to read web sites, books, etc stuff.That's why I'm reluctant to buy any current generation tablets: the fonts in documents look blurred. On my ancient phone text looks much crisper and it has a fairly hires display. I was not very pleased with Transformer or iPad so far.
I have only one concern though. I am worried about the performance on these hires displays. I would like to smooth scroll all PDF documents and websites even featuring flash and HTML5 coolness. Transformer 1 was mediocre.
zorxd - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
15" is probably the most popular laptop screen size for years. And the resolution didn't improve that much in the last 15 or so years. It was 1024x768, then 1280x800, and now 1366x768. Not a huge increase. And web sites are usually designed for these resolutions in mind. We have reached a ceiling in which people now prefer cheaper laptops than better resolution.Of course higher resolution displays exist but they have a price. I don't understand why anyone would want a higher resolution on a 10" tablet than on his 13-17" laptop.
ElFenix - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
i want more resolution in both. if having tablets killing laptops in resolution accomplishes that, i'm in favor.laptop resolutions have sucked ever since the pc makers decided that the only thing we do with laptops is watch movies. 1366x768 is lower in both dimensions than my 9 year old dell 600m's 1400x1050 14" screen. maybe now that people are used to zooming in and out on phones and tables, and windows 8 will hopefully implement it properly, we can start getting some actual real estate on screens.
coldpower27 - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
Well you have "higher" resolution if you look at the Macbook Air and 15" MacBook Pro11" Air 1366x768
13" Air 1440x900
15" Pro 1680x1050 (Selectable)
17" Pro 1920x1200
1920x1200 on a 10.1 Screen is actually pretty good 224 PPI, not Retina but a good improvement over iPad 1/2 (132PPI) and every 10.1 Android Tablet (1280x800) (~150PPI)
http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
Hopefully iPad 3 has 2048x1536 on the same screen size. :D
dananski - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link
My 15" laptop has a 1080p screen. It's not particularly common yet and you're right about most people preferring lower price to more pixels, but I think there's a reasonably big market for these better resolutions on portable devices among professionals and power users. Also tablets in particular need to look absolutely stunning in order to sell well, and while you may not think you need a higher pixel density now, when you seen them next to each other you realise it really makes a difference.B3an - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
I think the question you should be asking is:"Why dont i get some glasses?"
nevk2687 - Thursday, January 12, 2012 - link
I just recently received my tf201 but returned it because it appears that Asus will not be adding the plastic strip to the back of the TF201 like the TF700T. I would hate to spend an additional 100 for better reception but may need to.r3loaded - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
As Zingam said, get your eyes checked (especially if you're over 40). My dad was complaining that he couldn't tell the difference between HD and SD content until he got himself a new pair of glasses. He's now happy that his eyes too are "HD ready"!Zingam - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
...then Transformer Premium Platinum for just $99999!!!They don't get it. Tablets are disposable devices they have to be cheap!!! $699 - no way! How about 3G/LTE etc. Does it support GPS, Skype, etc?
uhuznaa - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
$699 would be not too bad, IF those things weren't disposable (in the sense that they get obsoleted by the next generation a few months later).If I count right this is the third iteration of the Transformer in less than a year.
gorash - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
Since when were tablets disposable devices?kenyee - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
If I order it now, will I get it by x-mas? ;-)Asus seriously needs to get their supply problem fixed and release these early to beta testers to find any problems before the actual release instead of giving folks like Anand one week to test it before release :-O
I also agree $600 is too expensive. Release it at $500 and drop all the other prices by $100. Damned disposable things. If it ran Windows 8 as well, it'd be worth $600...at least Windows stuff doesn't seem to get obsoleted this quickly :-P
vectorm12 - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
Okay so soon I'll be able to get a 10" display on a tablet with 1920x1200 but the traditional displays most people do actual work on are still stuck at 30" and 2560x1600?!Seriously? Pull the finger out and start producing some 24"-30" 4k displays that aren't +100k SEK a pop.
If the technology is there to put it on 10" tabletdisplays what could possibly be stopping them from making desktop displays more high resolution?
pixelstuff - Monday, January 9, 2012 - link
I'm happy to see that they are going with the wider 16:10 ratio instead or a more narrow 1920x1080. It's not quite the ideal 4:3 format which really is easier to hold in portrait mode but it is closer. I've been disappointed that no Android tablets so far have offered 4:3 ratio screens.coldpower27 - Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - link
Yeah not officially anyway, you need some hack device like the HP Touchpad.Alexthemens - Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - link
Hi,I've been waiting for 1 month for Prime's release. In Canada, Transformer Prime isn't in store yet. It will hit the market next week in electronic shops.
I don't care about the graphic about a 10' tablet. But, if wireless doesn't work good, I don't want to buy the first version of Prime and regret it. I don't care about GPS too.
My question is : Is the wireless issues is a big problem about the tablet ? I want examples of problems I could have with it. I read all posts about it but I can't make myself an Idea.
Spoelie - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link
2 days after I ordered mine and on the same day that it is shipped they announce this. Bleh.And I, for one, welcome our new high-ppi overlords. With all the high-ppi displays on phones, I really felt the ipad looked terribly grainy when I first worked with it for a longer period of time.
The original prime is supposed to be better, but I imagine this new version will be an entirely different experience altogether. Too bad the sub-par graphic performance isn't updated, won't be a good gaming companion at that resolution.