these phones are ridiculously good looking and slim! i wish AT&T would let me use them without being forced onto a data plan!!! so im using a dumb phone till i figure out a way AT&T cant detect a smartphone OR data plan no longer required.
I use an HTC Inspire on AT&T's network without a data plan. I use it almost exclusively as a portable computer and very rarely use it as a phone and so I have the most basic pre-paid plan and they haven't complained. Sure I had to pay full price but with VOIP working when I have a Wi-Fi connection I have effectively unlimited talk time since I almost always have Wi-Fi. Having rooted and installed CM7 may have helped. The downside to all this is paying full price for the phone up front but I don't care when it is several hundred less then the cheapest contract by the end.
oh, i am post paid. its a company phone. however, the company strictly forbids inserting our SIM into a smart phone to avoid data charges :( if it was my personal phone, i prolly would do prepaid also!
Do we have any statements from AT&T on how fast they expect their LTE network to be when there are a bunch of people on it? I don't care about speed tests of 20Mbps when there are no other devices connecting to the network, because that's a fantasy scenario that won't exist in a year.
Truly smaller LTE phones will be a bit longer. It's always easier to fit all the necessary chips and radios into a larger chassis, so you can go thick or big, and after the first round of devices (the Thunderbolt, Revolution and Charge) thin is back in so big is a must. Based on some comments from AT&T's CEO, they might be first to premier a Krait based phone, but that's purely speculation based on his one comment. Either way, Krait will be the next thing that moves the goal posts.
In a Verizon LTE phone from HTC, the SoC carries a 1xRTT (CDMA2000) telephony radio and the MDM9600 carries EVDO and LTE radios. The MDM9600 also carries a full compliment of GSM/UMTS radios, including HSPA+. Since Qualcomm hasn't started selling a SoC with GSM/UMTS and LTE radios, they have to include the MDM9600, and if you're using that, then there's no reason to include a radio in the SoC, hence the APQ8060.
Where it gets interesting is in Krait. Right now, all LTE phones are two chip solutions (SoC+LTE baseband). When Krait arrives it will be carrying every possible radio iteration being used except WiMax. This one chip LTE solution will result in drastically different phone designs that will be smaller and have better battery life. There should be a theoretical cost savings as well, as bill of materials for these phones should end up lower than the two chip solutions that exist. Don't expect prices to come down for some time though.
Ralph de la Vega, AT&T CEO, spent some time boasting recently that their LTE phones would be the first to be thinner and more efficient thanks to new technologies. This doesn't seem born out. These phones are competitively thin, but they aren't thinner than the RAZR and if we're right about the modem's being used then they won't last any longer. What these phones really represent is a pricing battle that we'll hopefully benefit from.
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luv2liv - Monday, October 31, 2011 - link
these phones are ridiculously good looking and slim!i wish AT&T would let me use them without being forced onto a data plan!!! so im using a dumb phone till i figure out a way AT&T cant detect a smartphone OR data plan no longer required.
thrawn3 - Monday, October 31, 2011 - link
I use an HTC Inspire on AT&T's network without a data plan. I use it almost exclusively as a portable computer and very rarely use it as a phone and so I have the most basic pre-paid plan and they haven't complained. Sure I had to pay full price but with VOIP working when I have a Wi-Fi connection I have effectively unlimited talk time since I almost always have Wi-Fi. Having rooted and installed CM7 may have helped. The downside to all this is paying full price for the phone up front but I don't care when it is several hundred less then the cheapest contract by the end.luv2liv - Monday, October 31, 2011 - link
oh, i am post paid. its a company phone. however, the company strictly forbids inserting our SIM into a smart phone to avoid data charges :(if it was my personal phone, i prolly would do prepaid also!
dagamer34 - Monday, October 31, 2011 - link
Do we have any statements from AT&T on how fast they expect their LTE network to be when there are a bunch of people on it? I don't care about speed tests of 20Mbps when there are no other devices connecting to the network, because that's a fantasy scenario that won't exist in a year.milan03 - Monday, October 31, 2011 - link
Well here is Verizon's real world peak speeds 10 months after the launch: http://i.imgur.com/t2Cjx.pngsteven75 - Monday, October 31, 2011 - link
So AT&T is only going to offer mini-tablet sized phones if you want LTE?I think I'll wait.
JasonInofuentes - Monday, October 31, 2011 - link
Truly smaller LTE phones will be a bit longer. It's always easier to fit all the necessary chips and radios into a larger chassis, so you can go thick or big, and after the first round of devices (the Thunderbolt, Revolution and Charge) thin is back in so big is a must. Based on some comments from AT&T's CEO, they might be first to premier a Krait based phone, but that's purely speculation based on his one comment. Either way, Krait will be the next thing that moves the goal posts.Hunt3rj2 - Tuesday, November 1, 2011 - link
So the SoC has no modem at all, and the entire modem is on a separate chip?JasonInofuentes - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
In a Verizon LTE phone from HTC, the SoC carries a 1xRTT (CDMA2000) telephony radio and the MDM9600 carries EVDO and LTE radios. The MDM9600 also carries a full compliment of GSM/UMTS radios, including HSPA+. Since Qualcomm hasn't started selling a SoC with GSM/UMTS and LTE radios, they have to include the MDM9600, and if you're using that, then there's no reason to include a radio in the SoC, hence the APQ8060.Where it gets interesting is in Krait. Right now, all LTE phones are two chip solutions (SoC+LTE baseband). When Krait arrives it will be carrying every possible radio iteration being used except WiMax. This one chip LTE solution will result in drastically different phone designs that will be smaller and have better battery life. There should be a theoretical cost savings as well, as bill of materials for these phones should end up lower than the two chip solutions that exist. Don't expect prices to come down for some time though.
Ralph de la Vega, AT&T CEO, spent some time boasting recently that their LTE phones would be the first to be thinner and more efficient thanks to new technologies. This doesn't seem born out. These phones are competitively thin, but they aren't thinner than the RAZR and if we're right about the modem's being used then they won't last any longer. What these phones really represent is a pricing battle that we'll hopefully benefit from.
lucypinderol - Tuesday, November 1, 2011 - link
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Is it exynos if so I might get the skyrocket, but there is no LTE in california...I am getting tired of my desire hd, I want a sexy camera.
Hunt3rj2 - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
No Exynos. Exynos 4210 only goes up to 1.4 GHz, and the 1.5 GHz Exynos will have to wait until 2012 to show up in a device.Snapdragon's CPU at 1.5 GHz is about the same at Exynos at 1.2 GHz.
galfert - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
Can someone check if the HTC Vivid has NFC support? Go to Settings > Wireless & Networks and see if NFC is listed. Thanks.JasonInofuentes - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
As soon as we get one we'll let you know.shenjun123 - Monday, November 7, 2011 - link
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