When reviewing a product, I'd think it obvious that you should compare it to its actual competitors (iMac). While I realize that some benchmarks can't be easily replicated (gaming), certainly the screen, boot times, and power draw could've been compared.
Not the same monitor, but look into the Dell st2220t 21.5 inch CCFL backlit, 6-bit E-IPS. It is 329 and works with any computer that is Vista or 7. It has been on sale routinely for $250 and once as low as $210.
Well, I'd actually like a device like that, but the screens are very lacking, especially in the touch-department.
Resistive touchpanels are crap. Plain and simple. Additionally glossy screens are crap aswell, especially when they're ment to touch.
So, make one of these with a matte, capacitive multitouch screen and I might actually consider such a system. Or even better, make one, that works like a pentablet with pressure-sensitive input like the Wacom Cintiq 24HD.
Whats the point of including an i7 and 8 gigs of ram when your running the OS off a drive with turtle speed? At least include a decent WD Black/Blue drive or better yet.....Run the OS off a separate SSD and use the Turtle drive for media storage.
I still prefer building/upgrading my own systems, but this would be a decent unit for the kitchen. I'd be even more interested if they offered this with an AMD APU at a much lower cost. I just don't see the value in offering this product at such a high price.
While I was working on an iMac in 1999 I noticed that it didnt have a floppy drive. forward thinking sure but all the boot disks that we had for that version of the mac os were on floppy and cd burners were really expensive. So while it was forward thinking it also screwed its customers and the techs trying to repair one hit by lightning.
I don't really understand you. Any touch screen of course needs a layer of glass or something else that is between the panel/pixels and the finger, because if you touch any open LCD, the image distorts.
Why didn't you just put a 7200RPM 2.5" in there if you were concerned about heat/power!? This is just stupid. Why bother pairing the fastest CPU on the market up with the slowest hard drive?
Really, the difference in heat and power draw nowadays is close to non-existent and of course, at least on 2.5 HD... which I hope is what they used right?
not so great if you consider that you have two of them (or so it seems) and no VGA, HDMI or otherwise method of plugging in a second display, projector or whatever...
please... laptops half this size have had it for decades.
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WasabiVengeance - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
When reviewing a product, I'd think it obvious that you should compare it to its actual competitors (iMac). While I realize that some benchmarks can't be easily replicated (gaming), certainly the screen, boot times, and power draw could've been compared.retrospooty - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
"I'd think it obvious that you should compare it to its actual competitors (iMac"What is an iMac ?
shin0bi272 - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
original versionhttp://lowendmac.com/imacs/rev-a-imac-g3-233-mhz.h...
and the current version
http://www.apple.com/imac/
current one doesnt look too bad but its hella expensive for what you get.
retrospooty - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
LOL, thanks... I was being sarcastic though. He said "compare it to actual competitors" so I was clowning on Mac'sKoolAidMan1 - Friday, November 4, 2011 - link
That 27" display by itself is $1100 from Dell or $1400 from NEC. That there's an i5 or i7 computer built in actually makes it a pretty good value.RamarC - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
i doubt anyone is deciding between this hp touchsmart and an imac. the decision is mac or PC and then which model mac or pc.Spivonious - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
I can see placing this on a desk in "kiosk" mode and using it as a touch only computer. Does HP have any plans on selling just the screen?Roland00Address - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
Not the same monitor, but look into the Dell st2220t 21.5 inch CCFL backlit, 6-bit E-IPS. It is 329 and works with any computer that is Vista or 7. It has been on sale routinely for $250 and once as low as $210.jrs77 - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
Well, I'd actually like a device like that, but the screens are very lacking, especially in the touch-department.Resistive touchpanels are crap. Plain and simple. Additionally glossy screens are crap aswell, especially when they're ment to touch.
So, make one of these with a matte, capacitive multitouch screen and I might actually consider such a system.
Or even better, make one, that works like a pentablet with pressure-sensitive input like the Wacom Cintiq 24HD.
angelzero - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
Only if this had an Active digitizer it would have been great.What's up with all the touch screens now not having active digitizer.
ABR - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
That's all I have to say.GotThumbs - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
Whats the point of including an i7 and 8 gigs of ram when your running the OS off a drive with turtle speed? At least include a decent WD Black/Blue drive or better yet.....Run the OS off a separate SSD and use the Turtle drive for media storage.I still prefer building/upgrading my own systems, but this would be a decent unit for the kitchen. I'd be even more interested if they offered this with an AMD APU at a much lower cost. I just don't see the value in offering this product at such a high price.
Good review though.
shin0bi272 - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
While I was working on an iMac in 1999 I noticed that it didnt have a floppy drive. forward thinking sure but all the boot disks that we had for that version of the mac os were on floppy and cd burners were really expensive. So while it was forward thinking it also screwed its customers and the techs trying to repair one hit by lightning.Roland00Address - Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - link
When you use a TN panel with a touchscreen, and you actually touch the panel the image distorts where you touch it.IPS does not have this limitation, this is why many touchscreen phones use IPS panels over the cheaper TN, furthermore IPS have better viewing angles.
PLS is a variant of IPS that Samsung has come out with.
Death666Angel - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
I don't really understand you. Any touch screen of course needs a layer of glass or something else that is between the panel/pixels and the finger, because if you touch any open LCD, the image distorts.shashank7040 - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
Great.....Asus Eee Pad is the first Android tablet with slide out QWERTY.....................http://goo.gl/B4rJU
Samus - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
Really HP? REALLY!?Why didn't you just put a 7200RPM 2.5" in there if you were concerned about heat/power!? This is just stupid. Why bother pairing the fastest CPU on the market up with the slowest hard drive?
Snotling - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
they wanted to save a dollar on each system sold.Really, the difference in heat and power draw nowadays is close to non-existent and of course, at least on 2.5 HD... which I hope is what they used right?
What... They didn't??? those stinking bastards!
Snotling - Thursday, November 3, 2011 - link
"The HDMI input is great,"not so great if you consider that you have two of them (or so it seems) and no VGA, HDMI or otherwise method of plugging in a second display, projector or whatever...
please... laptops half this size have had it for decades.