But not in the way you think. iPhone 4S had a lackluster response from people...until Steve Jobs died. Now Apple and iPhone is utterly shattering the news right now. The Nexus would have been completely overshadowed if it launches now.
They do when a huge product release will be completely overshadowed by the passing of Steve Jobs. This phone would barely crack the news right now. That's why it was delayed.
Are you seriously implying that the commercial success of the iPhone 4S is due to Steve Jobs' death?
The only people the iPhone 4S had a lackluster response from were the usual suspects: the crowd of techies who can't look past a spec sheet to see the true value of a product. Now that all of that whining and moaning is dying down, the iPhone 4S is going to do what all of the previous iPhones have done--be successful.
Steve Jobs' death had nothing to do with that. If anything, his death hindered it, because it completely overshadowed the release of the iPhone 4S.
I personally think that while the iPhone 4S would have done decently anyway, I'm almost sure that there will be considerably more success of it now that Steve Jobs passed away. Many Apple fans are diehard, loyal fans, and I don't put it past many of them that may have been on the fence about upgrading to the 4S, or waiting for the iPhone 5, to now get a 4S as a "tribute" to Steve Jobs.
I actually wasn't thinking at all about him when I heard this. I thought that they delayed this because the iphone 4s was lackluster and they didn't need to rush the Prime in to trump it.
More likely has to do with the piss-poor state of the economy. They're probably waiting for Black Friday and hoping that prolonging it will help Apple Fans see the light (while earning some positive PR).
I read else where on the interwebs (rumor of course) that during the event they would compare the Nexus/Android to the iPhone/iOS but since Jobs recent passing felt that this would not be tasteful so in respect of Jobs they are making a few minor changes to certain presentations.
Not sure if this is true but it sound believable to me. The saddest thing though is that I am planning to pre-order this phone as it is time to retire my old feature phone so I hope they don't push the release back any further.
Yeah, that's certainly possible. Tim compared the iPhone 4S to Android devices numerous times to equivalent comparison from Samsung makes sense. I doubt the release is delayed that much, maybe a week or two.
Remember the "sources say" line. Rumors should always be taken with grain of salt, and we don't really fancy rumors here in AT. I also said the phone may be delayed, not that it will ;-)
I still think Apple planned this in some way. I don't believe that Jobs died the day after the iPhone 4S was released. Died before? maybe. Not dead? Unlikely, but if someone can pull it off it's Jobs. Apple is brilliant at marketing, and I wouldn't put it past them to use Job's "death" to increase iPhone 4S sales.
And if a funeral is planned for the 11th, how convenient is it that it was scheduled for the day this phone was set to be announced?
If it was because of the jabs at Apple in the presentation then that imo is no reason for a delay. It's jabs at APPLE, not Jobs. Everyone respects what Jobs has done for the tech world, even if not all of us liked him, but the world goes on.
I think that is an absurd and disrespectful thing to say. There is no conspiracy, a men dedicated to the company he founded did all that he could to see his final project through to the end. After that he hands his company over to his most trusted co-workers, and spent what remains of his time surrounded by his close friends and family. How is that unreasonable? Why do you have to assume such things?
Frankly anyone on their deathbed who has the strength and conviction to see their work completed and then say good bye to those who meant the most to them, should be honored and respected.
I could see Google and Samsung wanting to hold off a little while out of respect, remember it was Eric Schmidt who stood on stage with Steve Jobs as part of the launch of the first iPhone. Schmidt also served on the board of directors of Apple, and owes many of those search hits to ios devices. Also despite the recent troubles with Samsung, Apple has sold over 250 million Samsung powered devices if you break down the sales of ipods, iphones, and ipads. Probably nearly double that if you count all the NAND used in various devices, and the ram used in various Mac platforms. A generous portion of Samsung profits over the last few years have come from Apple devices.
I never met Jobs so I would like to pose the question: If the CEO of any of Jobs' competitors had passed instead would He have postponed the launch of a new product?
Communism, I never met the man and if you have not either, then I don't think it is fair to make such judgements. People who take their job seriously and are dedicated to their craft are often seen in such light. You can look at actors, musicians, artists, designers, researchers, or any other field, and find people who take their visions so seriously that nothing would be allowed to get in the way of turning them into reality. It is easy to label such dedication as crazy but it is hardly fair to do so. Some people just work differently than others.
Bupkus, I think yes. Remember that even though these companies are competitors, the men and women involved are usually not. The talented engineers and designers at Google can easily pick up an Apple product and admire it from their respective fields. Bill Gates could interact with OSX and respect the efforts that went into it just as easily as Steve Jobs did. Creators tend to have a different perspective than consumers. They don't like being so close minded and judgmental.
While the idea that it was a conspiracy by Apple to announce his death the day after the new iPhone was announced is going too far, there is something to be said about the will and strength of a person when battling terminal diseases. I know most of this isn't really based on anything provable, but its just a belief I have that the mind and body can give up or keep fighting when near death. And if Jobs was really struggling, the final act of passing the CEO mantle to Tim Cook (announcing a new iPhone), may have enabled him to let go, and it that moment his mind/body may have given up. He was the far-reaching control freak, as everyone knows, and he was handing off Apple to someone else. I know it sounds kind of crazy, but that's how I would explain the strange timing of his death.
What's wrong with the article? Many people have been waiting for Samsung's new phone and Android 4.0, and it's definitely newsworthy to report that the launch has been postponed.
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quiksilvr - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
But not in the way you think. iPhone 4S had a lackluster response from people...until Steve Jobs died. Now Apple and iPhone is utterly shattering the news right now. The Nexus would have been completely overshadowed if it launches now.imaheadcase - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
Businesses don't stop business when someone dies. Stop speculating nonsense.hamburgler - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
This event was marketing, not "business".sleepeeg3 - Saturday, October 8, 2011 - link
Look up any college curriculum and tell me what school a degree in marketing falls under.sleepeeg3 - Saturday, October 8, 2011 - link
Agreed. Either the OP's theory is correct or possibly one of the products was not ready.tayb - Monday, October 10, 2011 - link
They do when a huge product release will be completely overshadowed by the passing of Steve Jobs. This phone would barely crack the news right now. That's why it was delayed.raejae - Sunday, October 9, 2011 - link
Are you seriously implying that the commercial success of the iPhone 4S is due to Steve Jobs' death?The only people the iPhone 4S had a lackluster response from were the usual suspects: the crowd of techies who can't look past a spec sheet to see the true value of a product. Now that all of that whining and moaning is dying down, the iPhone 4S is going to do what all of the previous iPhones have done--be successful.
Steve Jobs' death had nothing to do with that. If anything, his death hindered it, because it completely overshadowed the release of the iPhone 4S.
FlyBri - Monday, October 10, 2011 - link
I personally think that while the iPhone 4S would have done decently anyway, I'm almost sure that there will be considerably more success of it now that Steve Jobs passed away. Many Apple fans are diehard, loyal fans, and I don't put it past many of them that may have been on the fence about upgrading to the 4S, or waiting for the iPhone 5, to now get a 4S as a "tribute" to Steve Jobs.kishorshack - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
Respect for GoogleIm pretty sure it has something to do with steve jobs death
Even Google n Samsung wouldnt be happy to release a new product at this time
R.I.P
Legend Steve Jobs
sigmatau - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
That would be nice if they did it for Steve Jobs.I actually wasn't thinking at all about him when I heard this. I thought that they delayed this because the iphone 4s was lackluster and they didn't need to rush the Prime in to trump it.
JonnyDough - Saturday, October 8, 2011 - link
More likely has to do with the piss-poor state of the economy. They're probably waiting for Black Friday and hoping that prolonging it will help Apple Fans see the light (while earning some positive PR).phatboye - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
I read else where on the interwebs (rumor of course) that during the event they would compare the Nexus/Android to the iPhone/iOS but since Jobs recent passing felt that this would not be tasteful so in respect of Jobs they are making a few minor changes to certain presentations.Not sure if this is true but it sound believable to me. The saddest thing though is that I am planning to pre-order this phone as it is time to retire my old feature phone so I hope they don't push the release back any further.
Kristian Vättö - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
Yeah, that's certainly possible. Tim compared the iPhone 4S to Android devices numerous times to equivalent comparison from Samsung makes sense. I doubt the release is delayed that much, maybe a week or two.dagamer34 - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
The even has been postponed because of Steve Jobs passing. The phone itself hasn't been delayed.http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-go...
Kristian Vättö - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
Remember the "sources say" line. Rumors should always be taken with grain of salt, and we don't really fancy rumors here in AT. I also said the phone may be delayed, not that it will ;-)daniel142005 - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
I still think Apple planned this in some way. I don't believe that Jobs died the day after the iPhone 4S was released. Died before? maybe. Not dead? Unlikely, but if someone can pull it off it's Jobs. Apple is brilliant at marketing, and I wouldn't put it past them to use Job's "death" to increase iPhone 4S sales.And if a funeral is planned for the 11th, how convenient is it that it was scheduled for the day this phone was set to be announced?
If it was because of the jabs at Apple in the presentation then that imo is no reason for a delay. It's jabs at APPLE, not Jobs. Everyone respects what Jobs has done for the tech world, even if not all of us liked him, but the world goes on.
thewickyman - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
I think that is an absurd and disrespectful thing to say. There is no conspiracy, a men dedicated to the company he founded did all that he could to see his final project through to the end. After that he hands his company over to his most trusted co-workers, and spent what remains of his time surrounded by his close friends and family. How is that unreasonable? Why do you have to assume such things?Frankly anyone on their deathbed who has the strength and conviction to see their work completed and then say good bye to those who meant the most to them, should be honored and respected.
I could see Google and Samsung wanting to hold off a little while out of respect, remember it was Eric Schmidt who stood on stage with Steve Jobs as part of the launch of the first iPhone. Schmidt also served on the board of directors of Apple, and owes many of those search hits to ios devices. Also despite the recent troubles with Samsung, Apple has sold over 250 million Samsung powered devices if you break down the sales of ipods, iphones, and ipads. Probably nearly double that if you count all the NAND used in various devices, and the ram used in various Mac platforms. A generous portion of Samsung profits over the last few years have come from Apple devices.
I certainly hope they would be so respectful.
JonnyDough - Saturday, October 8, 2011 - link
Pish. Silly blabbering fools. People don't die!Well, I for one will live forever in the hearts of men. Who am I? You're kidding, right?
Devo2007 - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
Oh come on, Apple wouldn't stoop down that low - it would be utterly disrespectful and distasteful for them to do such a thing.Also, you must have forgotten about Tim Cook's letter to the employees later that day informing them Jobs had passed away earlier in the day.
Whether you liked Jobs or not doesn't matter - show some respect!
bupkus - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
I never met Jobs so I would like to pose the question: If the CEO of any of Jobs' competitors had passed instead would He have postponed the launch of a new product?thewickyman - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
Communism, I never met the man and if you have not either, then I don't think it is fair to make such judgements. People who take their job seriously and are dedicated to their craft are often seen in such light. You can look at actors, musicians, artists, designers, researchers, or any other field, and find people who take their visions so seriously that nothing would be allowed to get in the way of turning them into reality. It is easy to label such dedication as crazy but it is hardly fair to do so. Some people just work differently than others.Bupkus, I think yes. Remember that even though these companies are competitors, the men and women involved are usually not. The talented engineers and designers at Google can easily pick up an Apple product and admire it from their respective fields. Bill Gates could interact with OSX and respect the efforts that went into it just as easily as Steve Jobs did. Creators tend to have a different perspective than consumers. They don't like being so close minded and judgmental.
crabperson - Friday, October 7, 2011 - link
While the idea that it was a conspiracy by Apple to announce his death the day after the new iPhone was announced is going too far, there is something to be said about the will and strength of a person when battling terminal diseases. I know most of this isn't really based on anything provable, but its just a belief I have that the mind and body can give up or keep fighting when near death. And if Jobs was really struggling, the final act of passing the CEO mantle to Tim Cook (announcing a new iPhone), may have enabled him to let go, and it that moment his mind/body may have given up. He was the far-reaching control freak, as everyone knows, and he was handing off Apple to someone else. I know it sounds kind of crazy, but that's how I would explain the strange timing of his death.xype - Saturday, October 8, 2011 - link
Did all the retards from DailyTech crawl over to AnandTech now? Wow, I think this is the last AnandTech article I will read for a while.Kristian Vättö - Saturday, October 8, 2011 - link
What's wrong with the article? Many people have been waiting for Samsung's new phone and Android 4.0, and it's definitely newsworthy to report that the launch has been postponed.Zoomer - Saturday, October 8, 2011 - link
Remember that compteting, or disagreeing with, the guy doesn't mean it's ok to not show the proper respect.Whatever the guy did or did not do, it's all in the past now.
AnotherGuy - Sunday, October 9, 2011 - link
How about it was coz iPhone 4S sucked so bad no theres no need to rush another high end Android phone out before they feel the need to...sdffs - Sunday, October 9, 2011 - link
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