As RIM is crashing and burning. Shares plummeting, disgruntled employees writing open letters about how poorly run RIM is. A failed tablet launch that makes HP's TouchPad launch look like a success. Oh by the way what is that thing? 7'inch copy of WebOS that needs a BB phone to get email?!? A Speak 'n Spell could catch up with that RIM tablet.
HP's acquisition of Palm wasn't without some missteps but their OS is way better and updates will fix most of the problems which will be released soon. HP is the largest PC manufacturer and is ramping up more more employees for WebOS and about to launch a huge marketing push. HP has many more WebOS products coming down the pipeline.
Rim only has uncertainty, not just about their tablet but their future as a company.
Yeah, right, the RIM App World is growing leaps and bounds, with 1 billiion downloads so far, 3 millions downloads every single day from 100 countries it is in, RIM international revenue grew 67%, they are swimming in billions of cash, got best mobile OS there (QNX) and best tablet with best web browser, just read rave reviews like http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/07/the-blackberry-playb... - and RIM is crashing and burning? It's more like your head has crashed against something hard dude :))) Are you just another analyst believeing clueless blog worshipping sucker? Then I have a bridge to sell you.
Stocks don't magically go to a P/E of under 4.5 because of a few clueless analysts. If you are blind to RIM's problems, you should check that you did not leave your reality distortion field running overnight.
A 53% price drop year-over-year when the S&P is up 21% in the same time is also not a great sign.
I'm not saying anything specific about their products, or anything specific, but RIM is definitely in danger, and jumping on the tablet fad is not going to save them.
Yeah yeah, RIM is doomed because their stock price went down, MS is doomed because their stock is not growing for decades... who else on your shopping block? Google because they're gonna hit a speed bump and slash their profits tomorrow? DOOMED!
I love clueless analysts, so much fun :))) Same guys who asked you to buy RIM shares when they were $140 a pop now ask you to sell them when they are $28 a pop. Nice eh?
Keep believing man, keep believeing, I need gullibles like you on a stock market, I made some profit off RIM shares already and gonna do even more. You just keep posting here and believeing. Please.
That you are long RIM and not regretting it is all I needed to know.
If you are value investing (which you imply), unless you have been long RIM for more than five years, you couldn't have made money on it. The last time it was this low was in 2006.
I apologize that the rest of the world does not recognize your genius! Go troll elsewhere. Thanks!
You loser missed the moment when RIMM went down to 25 and then shot up to 30 in three days at the end of June right after their quarter report, when I acted quick and made a few grand. But you just keep believing analysts, please, I need gullibles like you on stock exchange. Please don't stop believing! :)))
Every comment you make reeks of either ignorant fanboi or just flat out lies. The RIM tablet has no significant market share. They are looking at under 1/2 million total tablet sales that's pitiful. Apple did that in under an hour of sales. They have a huge worldwide presence in the smart phone market not the tablet. I'm not going to feed the trolls but I will simply say, here is a link to their financial statement breakdown, and everything you believe is fantasy. You're completely wrong in every way and noone cares to hear you delusional ravings.
I love to primitive trolls off guard, now you'll have to troll Anand for giving such a good review eh? Go ahead dumbo, gimme some more fun :))) Troll Anand while I watch and enjoy the show. Where's my popcorn...
it's funny you say the app market is growing leaps and bounds when every major software development firm has dropped blackberry completely. RIM's documentation and developer support is actually worse than facebook's. QNX is a crapshoot and with the kind of tools RIM supplies to developers, it will stay that way.
You need a larger bezel with a tablet this big, as you can't grab it all in one hand. Maybe they could have made it a little smaller, but the bezel on my Nook is about as small as you can go - my thumb overlaps the screen a small amount on the Nook.
If I'm not mistaken, the HP TouchPad already gets worse battery life than competitors like the iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 although better than the Playbook. And HP's solution to poor performance is to simply crank clock speed and cut battery life further instead of addressing the route of the problem by optimizing their OS?
I have not experienced the majority of performance issues most reviewers have reported. My Touchpad behaves very quickly, and I quite like the design of it. To the person who mentioned the bezels, they are actually about the same size as, if not a bit smaller than, the iPad's. They only look big in the picture. I love my Touchpad. Since I got it I have hardly used my computers at all, pretty much just for games. Haven't felt the need to use anything but it. It's fun to use, and does everything I need it too beautifully.
Sure, there are some performance issues, but show me a tablet that doesn't have some sort of sluggishness at times.
Thanks for the information, it is good to see some sign of intelligence on this site. 7 of 10 posters have nothing but inane comments to contribute so far.
I agree with you. Most reviewers are either firmly in the Cupertino or the Mountain View camps. I find it appalling that so many reviews lambaste products like the TouchPad, which seem to bring something genuinely innovative and user friendly to the table, while bantering on and on about how the merry bunch at Google are rock stars. Honeycomb 3.0, along with the Xoom, was a pretty expensive heap of junk at launch and honestly, Honeycomb is still far from a 100% usable. If I give my dad a Xoom/Galaxy Tab 10.1/Acer Iconia or the hordes of other 'me-too' HC tablets, he'll probably thank me for buying it for him but give it back to me after 10 minutes of use. Sure it's a geeks wet-dream, but little beyond that.
The TouchPad is a good product. Is it an iPad beater? Sure it isn't. But does it have to be one? It does have short comings, but so did iOS more than halfway through its life and Android still does. While it's sheer laziness that some sites/blogs just post their 'opinions' as reviews, it's also a fact that pure numbers don't tell the story either. Hope the Anandtech review finds a good middle ground.
Your pot-shots (erroneous as they are) at Android make your opinion less than credible. And you are throwing stones at other camps for their bias? Take a look in the mirror.
My statements merely call out almost all reviewers who are either flagrantly subjective or nonsensically objective when it comes to reviewing very personal devices such as smartphones/tablets. And if you are under the impression that a majority of tech websites and blogs are *NOT* in bed with most of the companies, then you, sir, are sadly mistaken.
I'm not a fan boy or in any camp. Quite far from it actually. I don't care which company makes the products I buy as long as I get my money's worth. Having used the iPad 1/2, Xoom/G-Slate/Iconia etc., the Playbook and the TouchPad for anywhere between reasonable and extended periods of time, I can give you an educated opinion that outside of the market/fanboy hype, Honeycomb sits firmly at the bottom in the tablet space when it comes to usability/ease of use, polish, stability and general use. It's ridiculous how Google Talk crashes on starting a group chat or the Android Facebook app crashes when I select the 'Friends' tab in HC. It doesn't matter to me that the Android Marketplace offers 17865490+ other apps. If what I use/want to use doesn't work, it doesn't matter one bit that the tablet is just 8.9mm thick or it lets you remotely control your neighbors lawn mower. The TouchPad seems genuinely innovative in terms of what it offers. Given reasonable time to ramp up, if HP is able to bring on board high quality devs and their apps, I don't see why the TouchPad and webOS cannot be a viable competitor to the iPad, more so than any existing HC tablet.
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Pirks - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Good luck trying to play catch up with RIM tablet, losersdeesugar - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Thanks for that laugh! :)As RIM is crashing and burning. Shares plummeting, disgruntled employees writing open letters about how poorly run RIM is. A failed tablet launch that makes HP's TouchPad launch look like a success. Oh by the way what is that thing? 7'inch copy of WebOS that needs a BB phone to get email?!? A Speak 'n Spell could catch up with that RIM tablet.
HP's acquisition of Palm wasn't without some missteps but their OS is way better and updates will fix most of the problems which will be released soon. HP is the largest PC manufacturer and is ramping up more more employees for WebOS and about to launch a huge marketing push. HP has many more WebOS products coming down the pipeline.
Rim only has uncertainty, not just about their tablet but their future as a company.
Pirks - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Yeah, right, the RIM App World is growing leaps and bounds, with 1 billiion downloads so far, 3 millions downloads every single day from 100 countries it is in, RIM international revenue grew 67%, they are swimming in billions of cash, got best mobile OS there (QNX) and best tablet with best web browser, just read rave reviews like http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/07/the-blackberry-playb... - and RIM is crashing and burning? It's more like your head has crashed against something hard dude :))) Are you just another analyst believeing clueless blog worshipping sucker? Then I have a bridge to sell you.andymcca - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Stocks don't magically go to a P/E of under 4.5 because of a few clueless analysts. If you are blind to RIM's problems, you should check that you did not leave your reality distortion field running overnight.A 53% price drop year-over-year when the S&P is up 21% in the same time is also not a great sign.
I'm not saying anything specific about their products, or anything specific, but RIM is definitely in danger, and jumping on the tablet fad is not going to save them.
Pirks - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Yeah yeah, RIM is doomed because their stock price went down, MS is doomed because their stock is not growing for decades... who else on your shopping block? Google because they're gonna hit a speed bump and slash their profits tomorrow? DOOMED!I love clueless analysts, so much fun :))) Same guys who asked you to buy RIM shares when they were $140 a pop now ask you to sell them when they are $28 a pop. Nice eh?
Keep believing man, keep believeing, I need gullibles like you on a stock market, I made some profit off RIM shares already and gonna do even more. You just keep posting here and believeing. Please.
Pirks - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
shopping block == chopping blockandymcca - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
That you are long RIM and not regretting it is all I needed to know.If you are value investing (which you imply), unless you have been long RIM for more than five years, you couldn't have made money on it. The last time it was this low was in 2006.
I apologize that the rest of the world does not recognize your genius! Go troll elsewhere. Thanks!
Pirks - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
You loser missed the moment when RIMM went down to 25 and then shot up to 30 in three days at the end of June right after their quarter report, when I acted quick and made a few grand. But you just keep believing analysts, please, I need gullibles like you on stock exchange. Please don't stop believing! :)))pablo906 - Saturday, July 16, 2011 - link
Every comment you make reeks of either ignorant fanboi or just flat out lies. The RIM tablet has no significant market share. They are looking at under 1/2 million total tablet sales that's pitiful. Apple did that in under an hour of sales. They have a huge worldwide presence in the smart phone market not the tablet. I'm not going to feed the trolls but I will simply say, here is a link to their financial statement breakdown, and everything you believe is fantasy. You're completely wrong in every way and noone cares to hear you delusional ravings.http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527023038...
bplewis24 - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
In what country did RIM get "best mobile OS"?I should say "which planet" but I'm trying to not be condescending nor rhetorical.
Any site which gave that thing a rave review doesn't deserve to be clicked on.
Pirks - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
So Anandtech doesn't deserve to be clicked on?"PlayBook probably offers the best browsing experience from a pure software standpoint of any of the tablets" (C) Anand himself
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4266/blackberry-play...
I love to primitive trolls off guard, now you'll have to troll Anand for giving such a good review eh? Go ahead dumbo, gimme some more fun :))) Troll Anand while I watch and enjoy the show. Where's my popcorn...
Pirks - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
I love to [catch] primitive trolls off guardWiggy McShades - Friday, July 15, 2011 - link
it's funny you say the app market is growing leaps and bounds when every major software development firm has dropped blackberry completely. RIM's documentation and developer support is actually worse than facebook's. QNX is a crapshoot and with the kind of tools RIM supplies to developers, it will stay that way.Belard - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
So really, what makes it any more business like - other than sold through a "business" office?Is it any more business like than an iPhone2 or Android?
lenghui - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Wow... can they make the bezel any thicker? I would love to get one that can accommodate a coffee cup.cknobman - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
LMFAO I was thinking the same thing!!! I hope they pay their product designers well!!kmmatney - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
You need a larger bezel with a tablet this big, as you can't grab it all in one hand. Maybe they could have made it a little smaller, but the bezel on my Nook is about as small as you can go - my thumb overlaps the screen a small amount on the Nook.ltcommanderdata - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
If I'm not mistaken, the HP TouchPad already gets worse battery life than competitors like the iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 although better than the Playbook. And HP's solution to poor performance is to simply crank clock speed and cut battery life further instead of addressing the route of the problem by optimizing their OS?whosaidthat - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
This brief article would pull a failing grade in high school English.cgramer - Thursday, July 14, 2011 - link
I was going to say the same thing... Edit much? :-)lunarx3dfx - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
I have not experienced the majority of performance issues most reviewers have reported. My Touchpad behaves very quickly, and I quite like the design of it. To the person who mentioned the bezels, they are actually about the same size as, if not a bit smaller than, the iPad's. They only look big in the picture. I love my Touchpad. Since I got it I have hardly used my computers at all, pretty much just for games. Haven't felt the need to use anything but it. It's fun to use, and does everything I need it too beautifully.Sure, there are some performance issues, but show me a tablet that doesn't have some sort of sluggishness at times.
GTVic - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Thanks for the information, it is good to see some sign of intelligence on this site. 7 of 10 posters have nothing but inane comments to contribute so far.mutil0r - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
I agree with you. Most reviewers are either firmly in the Cupertino or the Mountain View camps. I find it appalling that so many reviews lambaste products like the TouchPad, which seem to bring something genuinely innovative and user friendly to the table, while bantering on and on about how the merry bunch at Google are rock stars. Honeycomb 3.0, along with the Xoom, was a pretty expensive heap of junk at launch and honestly, Honeycomb is still far from a 100% usable. If I give my dad a Xoom/Galaxy Tab 10.1/Acer Iconia or the hordes of other 'me-too' HC tablets, he'll probably thank me for buying it for him but give it back to me after 10 minutes of use. Sure it's a geeks wet-dream, but little beyond that.The TouchPad is a good product. Is it an iPad beater? Sure it isn't. But does it have to be one? It does have short comings, but so did iOS more than halfway through its life and Android still does. While it's sheer laziness that some sites/blogs just post their 'opinions' as reviews, it's also a fact that pure numbers don't tell the story either. Hope the Anandtech review finds a good middle ground.
bplewis24 - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Your pot-shots (erroneous as they are) at Android make your opinion less than credible. And you are throwing stones at other camps for their bias? Take a look in the mirror.mutil0r - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Hardly.My statements merely call out almost all reviewers who are either flagrantly subjective or nonsensically objective when it comes to reviewing very personal devices such as smartphones/tablets. And if you are under the impression that a majority of tech websites and blogs are *NOT* in bed with most of the companies, then you, sir, are sadly mistaken.
I'm not a fan boy or in any camp. Quite far from it actually. I don't care which company makes the products I buy as long as I get my money's worth. Having used the iPad 1/2, Xoom/G-Slate/Iconia etc., the Playbook and the TouchPad for anywhere between reasonable and extended periods of time, I can give you an educated opinion that outside of the market/fanboy hype, Honeycomb sits firmly at the bottom in the tablet space when it comes to usability/ease of use, polish, stability and general use. It's ridiculous how Google Talk crashes on starting a group chat or the Android Facebook app crashes when I select the 'Friends' tab in HC. It doesn't matter to me that the Android Marketplace offers 17865490+ other apps. If what I use/want to use doesn't work, it doesn't matter one bit that the tablet is just 8.9mm thick or it lets you remotely control your neighbors lawn mower. The TouchPad seems genuinely innovative in terms of what it offers. Given reasonable time to ramp up, if HP is able to bring on board high quality devs and their apps, I don't see why the TouchPad and webOS cannot be a viable competitor to the iPad, more so than any existing HC tablet.
bplewis24 - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Need moar bezel!Grandpa - Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - link
Oh boy another tablet that is underpowered, too few apps, too expensive, and unimaginative.AnnonymousCoward - Thursday, July 14, 2011 - link
I'll stick with my WinXP laptop.