Those are pretty impressive read speeds. Too bad the writes can/could suck. The price seems fairly reasonable too, which I figured the prices would be outrageous . . . Glad to be wrong, if even in thought in this case.
As for the guy above wondering about ready boost . . . spend the $100 on system memory instead . . .
Remember, that 32MB/s is for incompressible writes. I'm disappointed we didn't get to see the 512KB and 4KB random write on it. I suspect they would be 20-30MB/s. This memory stick will not have horrible performance when copying program folders and other things that have a lot of small files, like normal memory sticks usually do.
Well to be perfectly honest. I do not know exactly what is meant by "incompressible writes". No one can know everything, and to be perfectly honest ( again ), I am not sure I even care. e.g. If I were in the market for a USB flash device. I would already give it serious consideration based on the reads alone.
Well, that, and the price for the size seem fairly reasonable. If it were much higher, I would most likely opt out for a USB2 device. Since I would use this for fixing/repairing systems a lot of the time anyways. Most of those systems will probably be USB2 only for a while.
I've been waiting a long time for a drive that was small enough and affordable enough to put on my keychain. If the 32GB model is under $100 and has reasonable performance, it's definitely going on my Christmas list. I prefer carrying a flash drive between home and the office, rather than lugging a laptop, but current high performance USB drives are either too bulky or too expensive to throw on my keychain. I just hope they make the final product sturdy enough to stand up to that kind of use.
As ALWAYS, Anand, why do you not tell us about the power draw of this thing? I've had so many problems with SSDs that claim to be bus-powered, and which work OK for a while, but then crap out on you when a large number of back-to-back writes occur.
It's downright irresponsible of you, as SSD booster, not to pressure manufacturers on this, and not to test this aggressively with every drive you review.
Dude, lay off the man. He is at Computex (an electronics expo and technology show) in Taiwan! not in his office in the USA with all his typical resources at his disposal.
Beyond that, it's likely that the only time he spent with the device was standing at the SuperTalent booth! He didn't get to take the device to the hotel, or to his lab, and we don't even know if he ran those benchmarks or if they are on display from the company. Since it's a picture of the benchmarks, I would guess Anand didn't run them (or else they would be screen shots). How in the world is he supposed to do a complete benchmark in that environment? Much less, take power measurements?!
And how can you call him irresponsible, as if he has a duty to you?
It's a freakin' USB drive dude. So stop dogging on Anand for not being attentive to you and your whiny amateur problems.
On top of all that, this isn't labeled as a review. It's a technology preview, as with the tons of other snippets anandtech is blasting out of Computex.
Do you require the man to hold your hand while you use the little boys room too ?
I'd say that if you went out and bought this thing without doing some research on your own. Well, that you'd be the irresponsible one.
You can start by going to the manufactures web page, and finding out how much in amps it is claimed to draw.
USB2 is 500ma, and I seem to recalll reading that USB3 is 900ma Anything more, do not waste your time.. As a personal preference, I would probably stick closer to the USB2 spec. 500ma.
Gee, thanks guys. Your comments are really helpful. For example, yyrkoon: Amps is not a measure of power, WATTS is. The power that can be delivered by USB2 is 500mA at 5V, ie 2.5 W. The power that can be delivered by USB3 is 600mA at 5V, ie 3W. And, contrary to what happens in your imaginary world, in the REAL world, the power draw used by SSDs on a long series of writes is HUGE --- often substantially higher than for 2.5" magnetic drives.
And you geniuses telling me I should go to manufacturers web page to see what they say. WOW --- what a brilliant idea. I'd never in my life have thought of that. There is just this tiny little problem --- the manufacturers LIE.
Go, for example, to OCZ and see what they say about Enyo. They claim it's maximum power draw is 2.4W. So should run fine on USB2 right? WRONG!!! I've no idea where they got that 2.4W from because my experience is that you cannot get an Enyo to support SUSTAINED writes of more than about 15GB, even when using a USB split power cable. OCZ seems to be operating under some model where the device "works" if you can connect to it well enough for the OS to see it. But long sustained multi-GB writes --- that's too demanding to be counted as just "working".
Christ, I am SO SICK of morons talking about SSD who have never had a day's fscking experience with them, but are oh so convinced that they are experts on their failure modes, max power draw, etc etc. That's kind of my point --- I rely on someone like Anand to cut through the crap and actually supply useful information. But if all he is doing is acting as cheerleader for speed, while not paying attention to real world problems, then he is letting his readers down.
Does everyone else have to do your work for you ? amps times volts. In this case 5 volts. Worse case scenario, get a parts list, read the dahmed datasheets if you're so paranoid. Or, even wait for newegg reviews if you're incapable of doing anything else for yourself.
Show a bit of initiative.
After that, assuming you knew what you claim you know now. Why even bother posting. Especially if you *claim* to have all the answers.
Also, the device is not even for sale yet, nor could I even find any information from the manufacture on their site yet. Did I look hard ? No. Why ? Because I am not the type to bitch, and moan about something I can not even buy yet. Let alone bitch and moan to someone who is simple reporting on a device when he obviously was giving very limited information at a tech show.
As for what you perceive that I know, I could care less.
Great preview, by the way! I have been using SuperTalent memory for years in my systems and it has never let me down. I started using their USB drives a little over a year ago and both the 16GB USB2 and 16GB USB3 drives that I have significantly outperform my SanDisk USB2 drives on USB2 ports. With USB3 ports it is even more noticeable, though admittedly, the SuperTalent USB3 drive is the only USB3 drive I have and I have never run any benchmarks on my flash drives.
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StevoLincolnite - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Can we get some Readyboost benchmarks with this thing? I'm interested to see what kind of effect it might have. :)sbrown23 - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
I second that. How much of an effect would this have on Win7 performance used as a ReadyBoost cache?pvdw - Saturday, June 4, 2011 - link
You're much better off replacing your HDD with an SSD than using this for ReadyBoost.A drive like this would make for a great IT Tech or Forensics suite.
yyrkoon - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Those are pretty impressive read speeds. Too bad the writes can/could suck. The price seems fairly reasonable too, which I figured the prices would be outrageous . . . Glad to be wrong, if even in thought in this case.As for the guy above wondering about ready boost . . . spend the $100 on system memory instead . . .
GullLars - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Remember, that 32MB/s is for incompressible writes. I'm disappointed we didn't get to see the 512KB and 4KB random write on it. I suspect they would be 20-30MB/s.This memory stick will not have horrible performance when copying program folders and other things that have a lot of small files, like normal memory sticks usually do.
yyrkoon - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Well to be perfectly honest. I do not know exactly what is meant by "incompressible writes". No one can know everything, and to be perfectly honest ( again ), I am not sure I even care. e.g. If I were in the market for a USB flash device. I would already give it serious consideration based on the reads alone.Well, that, and the price for the size seem fairly reasonable. If it were much higher, I would most likely opt out for a USB2 device. Since I would use this for fixing/repairing systems a lot of the time anyways. Most of those systems will probably be USB2 only for a while.
TrackSmart - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
I've been waiting a long time for a drive that was small enough and affordable enough to put on my keychain. If the 32GB model is under $100 and has reasonable performance, it's definitely going on my Christmas list. I prefer carrying a flash drive between home and the office, rather than lugging a laptop, but current high performance USB drives are either too bulky or too expensive to throw on my keychain. I just hope they make the final product sturdy enough to stand up to that kind of use.name99 - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
As ALWAYS, Anand, why do you not tell us about the power draw of this thing?I've had so many problems with SSDs that claim to be bus-powered, and which work OK for a while, but then crap out on you when a large number of back-to-back writes occur.
It's downright irresponsible of you, as SSD booster, not to pressure manufacturers on this, and not to test this aggressively with every drive you review.
douglaswilliams - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Dude, lay off the man. He is at Computex (an electronics expo and technology show) in Taiwan! not in his office in the USA with all his typical resources at his disposal.Beyond that, it's likely that the only time he spent with the device was standing at the SuperTalent booth! He didn't get to take the device to the hotel, or to his lab, and we don't even know if he ran those benchmarks or if they are on display from the company. Since it's a picture of the benchmarks, I would guess Anand didn't run them (or else they would be screen shots). How in the world is he supposed to do a complete benchmark in that environment? Much less, take power measurements?!
And how can you call him irresponsible, as if he has a duty to you?
It's a freakin' USB drive dude. So stop dogging on Anand for not being attentive to you and your whiny amateur problems.
douglaswilliams - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
On top of all that, this isn't labeled as a review. It's a technology preview, as with the tons of other snippets anandtech is blasting out of Computex.yyrkoon - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
And that it is very unlikely that this device will use 4.5watts anyways. Nearly half of what a platter drive can use when idle . . .yyrkoon - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Do you require the man to hold your hand while you use the little boys room too ?I'd say that if you went out and bought this thing without doing some research on your own. Well, that you'd be the irresponsible one.
You can start by going to the manufactures web page, and finding out how much in amps it is claimed to draw.
USB2 is 500ma, and I seem to recalll reading that USB3 is 900ma Anything more, do not waste your time.. As a personal preference, I would probably stick closer to the USB2 spec. 500ma.
name99 - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Gee, thanks guys. Your comments are really helpful.For example, yyrkoon:
Amps is not a measure of power, WATTS is.
The power that can be delivered by USB2 is 500mA at 5V, ie 2.5 W.
The power that can be delivered by USB3 is 600mA at 5V, ie 3W.
And, contrary to what happens in your imaginary world, in the REAL world, the power draw used by SSDs on a long series of writes is HUGE --- often substantially higher than for 2.5" magnetic drives.
And you geniuses telling me I should go to manufacturers web page to see what they say. WOW --- what a brilliant idea. I'd never in my life have thought of that.
There is just this tiny little problem --- the manufacturers LIE.
Go, for example, to OCZ and see what they say about Enyo. They claim it's maximum power draw is 2.4W. So should run fine on USB2 right? WRONG!!!
I've no idea where they got that 2.4W from because my experience is that you cannot get an Enyo to support SUSTAINED writes of more than about 15GB, even when using a USB split power cable.
OCZ seems to be operating under some model where the device "works" if you can connect to it well enough for the OS to see it. But long sustained multi-GB writes --- that's too demanding to be counted as just "working".
Christ, I am SO SICK of morons talking about SSD who have never had a day's fscking experience with them, but are oh so convinced that they are experts on their failure modes, max power draw, etc etc.
That's kind of my point --- I rely on someone like Anand to cut through the crap and actually supply useful information. But if all he is doing is acting as cheerleader for speed, while not paying attention to real world problems, then he is letting his readers down.
yyrkoon - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
Does everyone else have to do your work for you ? amps times volts. In this case 5 volts. Worse case scenario, get a parts list, read the dahmed datasheets if you're so paranoid. Or, even wait for newegg reviews if you're incapable of doing anything else for yourself.Show a bit of initiative.
After that, assuming you knew what you claim you know now. Why even bother posting. Especially if you *claim* to have all the answers.
Also, the device is not even for sale yet, nor could I even find any information from the manufacture on their site yet. Did I look hard ? No. Why ? Because I am not the type to bitch, and moan about something I can not even buy yet. Let alone bitch and moan to someone who is simple reporting on a device when he obviously was giving very limited information at a tech show.
As for what you perceive that I know, I could care less.
yyrkoon - Friday, June 3, 2011 - link
CNY computer repair ( dot com ) Has an exact word for word "article" I am assuming copied from anandtech here. Including the exact same pictures.Whats up with that ?
Ryan Smith - Sunday, June 5, 2011 - link
It's fairly common for content mills and such to copy our articles (while still hotlinking the images), so that would be nothing new.Dark Legion - Sunday, June 5, 2011 - link
Is it illegal to not cite you guys on that, or just unethical? Other sites flat out copying your content must get annoying.mrcaffeinex - Saturday, June 4, 2011 - link
Great preview, by the way! I have been using SuperTalent memory for years in my systems and it has never let me down. I started using their USB drives a little over a year ago and both the 16GB USB2 and 16GB USB3 drives that I have significantly outperform my SanDisk USB2 drives on USB2 ports. With USB3 ports it is even more noticeable, though admittedly, the SuperTalent USB3 drive is the only USB3 drive I have and I have never run any benchmarks on my flash drives.zhongkki - Monday, June 6, 2011 - link
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