I just want the display if it's bigger than 1080P, ditch the rest of it! Currently cruising with my 24" TN monitor and been looking at various 27" and 30" displays to replace it with.
"Design is good"?!? Are you seriously kidding me? The design is really good because Asus didn't design this, Jonathan Ives did for Apple. If you squint at this it could almost be an Apple. Not sure about Samsung and Asus latest strategy which seems to combat poor sales and Apple#s dominance by confusing the buying public into thinking that their products are actually Apple ones by aping their design to the letter. Expect to see Apple rightfully brandishing it's lawers over this. Legitimate competition is all well and good but in the west this is called theft of intellectual property in an embarassingly obvious way which the Chinese seem to think is fine.
You're crazy. This thing looks as much like an Apple computer only as much as any particular computer looks like any other. It has literally no design element the same as the iMac, that isn't common to all monitors!
This is not competition, it is called ripp off. Asus is doing a festival of Apple's products ripp off this year, they also presented a ripp off of the MacBook air. Where is the innovation here?
And don't tell me about the touch screen, this is totally useless on a desktop computer running a system anyway not designed for multitouch. And you call that "progression" over the iMac, you are probably joking....
Actually Steve Jobs has explained why Apple decided touchscreen desktops were a dead end over a year ago (ie, nobody wants to hold their arm out in front of them to use as a pointing device, your arm becomes weary quickly). If Jobs is wrong and this is the future, then well played to Asus but I suspect its not a well thought out design feature in any part of Asus but the marketing department.
Please! I'm so sick of people accusing this product is a rip-off of a Apple product, so on and so forth. There's only one optimum way to do something and the differences is in the details. I see no resemblance of this Asus design with the iMac design at all.
Give it a rest will ya! And because of this so called "rip-off" you get better products from all manufacturer.
I guess people say this is a iMac rip-off because if you move the stand a bit down, and then change the color to white, you basically have a iMac look.
There are many ways to make things look good. (look at Lenovo's AIO -- forgot the model, think is their C-model, it is still white, but the stand is definitely different, and there is no 'black' color surrounding the monitor).
But then, look is the least important part. Spec is. Curious what the spec and price of this thing will be.
FYI the touch screen feature will work great with windows media center interface on W7. It's not intended to be the only method of using the system. You'd think apple invented the PC. Thats not the case and there is nothing wrong with taking an idea and making it better. Apple makes great fashion forward looking systems, but the internals are nothing unique to what is already in the market. Keep your mac if you'd like, but don't be so close minded for everyone else. Options are always a good thing....especially with it comes to free thinkers. If your fine with apples limited options...one size fits all mentality. Fine. Its just not for everyone else.
"but the internals are nothing unique to what is already in the market" or what will be in the market, as we've seen with the recent SNB chipsets.
The touchscreen might work with WMC, but I just don't see why anyone would want to touch their glossy "TV" with their fingers. It's not like you can wipe it of with your sleeve like a phone when it gets too messy. I know 2 people that have similar AIO (from the first Win7 generation) with touch and they gave up on it after a week or 2. It kinda reminds me of fingerprint sensors on laptops. Everyone has them, but I don't know a single person who actually uses it. In other words, a spec list feature with no real value to the consumer.
Commenting hakime's post seems like a waste of time and you guys pretty much took care of it, so I'll leave it at that.
Well there are different systems for different people. Currently if you walk into just about any big computer retailer like best buy you are going to see 4 or more all in one windows 7 computers running touch screens. These are the computers that ASUS is really coping and they have been around for years the first being the HP touch smart. It comes in 22 and 26" models.
So what is different about the asus? Well for 1 it uses a capacitive touch screen instead of the lazer based bezel the others tend to use. The other is the IPS screen instead of a TN panel. Now weather these things are better or worse I dont know I actually find the bezel detection to be quite nice.
But that being said there is clearly a market for these devices with touch screens.
Me personlly I cannot see why anyone would want a mac period. I also am one of those people who wonders why anyone would be stupid enough to buy an all in one computer at all given that you have tied you monitor to your hardware and will be screwed into keeping that hardware longer than usual or spending alot more to replace it. I also cannot see why anyone would waste money on a tablet that does nothing their phone cannot do. But there are millions of people in the world whom are not as practical as me. So clearly a market exists. If it did not exists HP would have abandoned it already.
If you place the screen in front of you, lying somewhat flat and don't use the mouse and keyboard, but only touch and onscreen-keyboard, then the "gorilla arm" problem is basically fixed.
Everyone who has ever used a Wacom PL-2200 knows how it works.
The thing really turns me back on this all-in-one is I don't want to expend a buck on a touch screen, but the possible IPS is a welcome. Asus please offer one option without touchscreen.
Besides this, what I would really want to know is how customizable and upgradeable this machine will be. Because if this machine will have a soldered GPU it will a big turn down for me. Remember Apple offer its products mostly to people not wanting to deal with the insides of a computer. But I think among PC oriented users there will be more people willing to upgrade, and even more if they are expending more money on a pricier monitor.
Computers like this dont really have much for expandability. thats what a tower is for. This is more of a space saver.
Any one getting these are not targeting for the bleeding edge of performance, or anything intensive for that matter, and wount need to upgrade every cycle. Most will probably sell this off and get a new one when that time comes.
In short I dont think you will be able to upgrade much, but I dont think it will really matter for the life of the machine.
To me its all about price. If this product ends up being 400 cheaper than the imac and with comparable or even better specs, it really should make you question how apple gets away with charging an arm and a leg for their products
I would be amazed if they managed that big a price difference without compromising the components. Everyone knows that the display costs $1000 minimum by itself, and the additional amount for a fast Core-i CPU and good GPU with an all-in-one design rounds out the rest.
The HP all-in-ones have slower components, inferior displays, and cost more than a better low end iMac. Same thing with Dell. If Asus can somehow beat them all on specs and price, good on them.
Why does apple have to be mentioned in nearly evert article? Haven't all in one pcs been out there for years and years and years and years and years....
It's quite easy to build a vesa-mountable mini-itx PC these days. There's motherboards with Atom, E-350, sockets AM2, AM3, 775, 1156, 1155... Unless you've got special needs (a graphics cards, something that's nice looking from the back too for a reception area, it really doesn't make sense to so intimately blend to PC and its monitor than one dying means junking the other, and one becoming obsolete means... well, junking the other too.
Plus, with the 2 separate, you get to choose the best in both classes, not some stupid matchup dreamed up in martketinglandia (touchsdreen ? come on !)
Typed on my fanless dual-screen E-350 in an M350 case case...
The iMac allows you stow the keyboard beneath the iMac when you aren't using it. This machine has a slanted leg, turning that opening beneath the unit into pure dead space, for no apparent gain in any other functionality. This shortcoming, which becomes completely and painfully obvious if you actually try to use a machine like this on a desk that's less than the size of a football field, makes me wonder if they even tried to understand the philosophy behind the product they were trying to rip off.
You can still stow a keyboard on that leg, the leg is not that sloped. It is a 27" thing, a small sized keyboard (are we both thinking about a mac keyboard ?rofl) would even totally fit on the left side of the leg and the mouse on the right side.
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davepermen - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
We can still have keyboard and mouse on this thing.StevoLincolnite - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
I just want the display if it's bigger than 1080P, ditch the rest of it! Currently cruising with my 24" TN monitor and been looking at various 27" and 30" displays to replace it with.iwod - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Design is Good, It looks like Apple may be getting some competition.( I seriously hope they can update the iMac Design )
robinthakur - Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - link
"Design is good"?!? Are you seriously kidding me? The design is really good because Asus didn't design this, Jonathan Ives did for Apple. If you squint at this it could almost be an Apple. Not sure about Samsung and Asus latest strategy which seems to combat poor sales and Apple#s dominance by confusing the buying public into thinking that their products are actually Apple ones by aping their design to the letter. Expect to see Apple rightfully brandishing it's lawers over this. Legitimate competition is all well and good but in the west this is called theft of intellectual property in an embarassingly obvious way which the Chinese seem to think is fine.Deathray2K - Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - link
You're crazy. This thing looks as much like an Apple computer only as much as any particular computer looks like any other. It has literally no design element the same as the iMac, that isn't common to all monitors!Blaid - Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - link
Fanboy trolls are the best.hakime - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
This is not competition, it is called ripp off. Asus is doing a festival of Apple's products ripp off this year, they also presented a ripp off of the MacBook air. Where is the innovation here?And don't tell me about the touch screen, this is totally useless on a desktop computer running a system anyway not designed for multitouch. And you call that "progression" over the iMac, you are probably joking....
Chillin1248 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
And if Apple was to do this [touchscreen] you would probably be singing their high praises. Get off your high horse.relentlessfocus - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Actually Steve Jobs has explained why Apple decided touchscreen desktops were a dead end over a year ago (ie, nobody wants to hold their arm out in front of them to use as a pointing device, your arm becomes weary quickly). If Jobs is wrong and this is the future, then well played to Asus but I suspect its not a well thought out design feature in any part of Asus but the marketing department.ImSpartacus - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Didn't he also say the same thing about Netbooks? The guy bashes stuff until he can find a way to do it better.Chillin1248 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
"Didn't he also say the same thing about Netbooks? The guy bashes stuff until he can find a way to make more money on them."Fixed it for you.
Larries - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Well, where are all the netbooks now?So, Steve Jobs is right.
damianrobertjones - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Ummm? I was just in Manchester airport and managed to see three ACer netbooks and one macbook air. WHere are the netbooks? Pretty much everywhereKoolAidMan1 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
http://www.slashgear.com/netbook-shipments-expecte...http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2011/04/28/...
Netbooks are on the decline. Proper laptops with real keyboards/displays and tablets will replace the bulk of them.
Deathray2K - Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - link
Where are netbooks now? All over the place! I see people using netbooks all the time.ImSpartacus - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Aren't the two one in the same? "Making money on something" is only a result of "doing it better". The two are very nearly the same.hanzi - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
For an Apple Fanboy yes this is a rip off. For everyone else this is a good contender.iwod - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
I woudn't call myself an Apple fanboy, but i do love Apple's products.However, many have been calling for an updated iMac design. It looks good when it was released, but now lookds slightly bulky.
This ASUS looks like a Sony Monitor more then a Computer.
DanD85 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Please! I'm so sick of people accusing this product is a rip-off of a Apple product, so on and so forth. There's only one optimum way to do something and the differences is in the details. I see no resemblance of this Asus design with the iMac design at all.Give it a rest will ya! And because of this so called "rip-off" you get better products from all manufacturer.
Larries - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
I guess people say this is a iMac rip-off because if you move the stand a bit down, and then change the color to white, you basically have a iMac look.There are many ways to make things look good. (look at Lenovo's AIO -- forgot the model, think is their C-model, it is still white, but the stand is definitely different, and there is no 'black' color surrounding the monitor).
But then, look is the least important part. Spec is. Curious what the spec and price of this thing will be.
cactusdog - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
How is it a ripoff of Apple? Its a monitor with a black bezel and an aluminium strip. IPS isnt Apple technology either....BTW, i dont know why anyone would want to put dirty fingerprints all over the front of a screen like that!
XiZeL - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
i think you got it wrong, asus have finally understood that apple is ripping off people with there stuff so they want a piece of the cake. :)pretty logical.
Tjalfe - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Everyone rips off each other in that case. All in one computers have been around from many manufactures for agesGotThumbs - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
FYI the touch screen feature will work great with windows media center interface on W7. It's not intended to be the only method of using the system. You'd think apple invented the PC. Thats not the case and there is nothing wrong with taking an idea and making it better. Apple makes great fashion forward looking systems, but the internals are nothing unique to what is already in the market. Keep your mac if you'd like, but don't be so close minded for everyone else. Options are always a good thing....especially with it comes to free thinkers. If your fine with apples limited options...one size fits all mentality. Fine. Its just not for everyone else.BlendMe - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
"but the internals are nothing unique to what is already in the market" or what will be in the market, as we've seen with the recent SNB chipsets.The touchscreen might work with WMC, but I just don't see why anyone would want to touch their glossy "TV" with their fingers. It's not like you can wipe it of with your sleeve like a phone when it gets too messy. I know 2 people that have similar AIO (from the first Win7 generation) with touch and they gave up on it after a week or 2. It kinda reminds me of fingerprint sensors on laptops. Everyone has them, but I don't know a single person who actually uses it. In other words, a spec list feature with no real value to the consumer.
Commenting hakime's post seems like a waste of time and you guys pretty much took care of it, so I'll leave it at that.
PubFiction - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Well there are different systems for different people. Currently if you walk into just about any big computer retailer like best buy you are going to see 4 or more all in one windows 7 computers running touch screens. These are the computers that ASUS is really coping and they have been around for years the first being the HP touch smart. It comes in 22 and 26" models.So what is different about the asus? Well for 1 it uses a capacitive touch screen instead of the lazer based bezel the others tend to use. The other is the IPS screen instead of a TN panel. Now weather these things are better or worse I dont know I actually find the bezel detection to be quite nice.
But that being said there is clearly a market for these devices with touch screens.
Me personlly I cannot see why anyone would want a mac period. I also am one of those people who wonders why anyone would be stupid enough to buy an all in one computer at all given that you have tied you monitor to your hardware and will be screwed into keeping that hardware longer than usual or spending alot more to replace it. I also cannot see why anyone would waste money on a tablet that does nothing their phone cannot do. But there are millions of people in the world whom are not as practical as me. So clearly a market exists. If it did not exists HP would have abandoned it already.
damianrobertjones - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
How many multi-touch windows computers have you used? How many systems have you tweaked? How many times have you seen a WIndows 7 touch device?I'd bet the answer is hardly ever or none.
I have and, frankly, it's just fine thank you very much. (Typing this on a TM2 using the on-screen keyboard)
KoolAidMan1 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Don't say that the tm2 is a good piece of hardware, just don't, not if you want to maintain the illusion of objectivity or credibility :)jrs77 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
If you place the screen in front of you, lying somewhat flat and don't use the mouse and keyboard, but only touch and onscreen-keyboard, then the "gorilla arm" problem is basically fixed.Everyone who has ever used a Wacom PL-2200 knows how it works.
jecs - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
The thing really turns me back on this all-in-one is I don't want to expend a buck on a touch screen, but the possible IPS is a welcome. Asus please offer one option without touchscreen.Besides this, what I would really want to know is how customizable and upgradeable this machine will be. Because if this machine will have a soldered GPU it will a big turn down for me. Remember Apple offer its products mostly to people not wanting to deal with the insides of a computer. But I think among PC oriented users there will be more people willing to upgrade, and even more if they are expending more money on a pricier monitor.
jrs77 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Most people buy PCs from Dell, HP, Acer or whatever and don't ever open the case actually.You shouldn't base your oppinion on the vocal majority on tech-sites, which is only some 10% of the customers in the PC-market ;)
khimera2000 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Computers like this dont really have much for expandability. thats what a tower is for. This is more of a space saver.Any one getting these are not targeting for the bleeding edge of performance, or anything intensive for that matter, and wount need to upgrade every cycle. Most will probably sell this off and get a new one when that time comes.
In short I dont think you will be able to upgrade much, but I dont think it will really matter for the life of the machine.
sviola - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
I wish they would release an IPS 120Hz monitor, with 16:10 aspect ratio. That would make me switch my current one.Sunburn74 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
To me its all about price. If this product ends up being 400 cheaper than the imac and with comparable or even better specs, it really should make you question how apple gets away with charging an arm and a leg for their productsKoolAidMan1 - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
I would be amazed if they managed that big a price difference without compromising the components. Everyone knows that the display costs $1000 minimum by itself, and the additional amount for a fast Core-i CPU and good GPU with an all-in-one design rounds out the rest.The HP all-in-ones have slower components, inferior displays, and cost more than a better low end iMac. Same thing with Dell. If Asus can somehow beat them all on specs and price, good on them.
damianrobertjones - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
Why does apple have to be mentioned in nearly evert article? Haven't all in one pcs been out there for years and years and years and years and years....StormyParis - Monday, May 30, 2011 - link
It's quite easy to build a vesa-mountable mini-itx PC these days. There's motherboards with Atom, E-350, sockets AM2, AM3, 775, 1156, 1155... Unless you've got special needs (a graphics cards, something that's nice looking from the back too for a reception area, it really doesn't make sense to so intimately blend to PC and its monitor than one dying means junking the other, and one becoming obsolete means... well, junking the other too.Plus, with the 2 separate, you get to choose the best in both classes, not some stupid matchup dreamed up in martketinglandia (touchsdreen ? come on !)
Typed on my fanless dual-screen E-350 in an M350 case case...
mogemoge - Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - link
The iMac allows you stow the keyboard beneath the iMac when you aren't using it. This machine has a slanted leg, turning that opening beneath the unit into pure dead space, for no apparent gain in any other functionality. This shortcoming, which becomes completely and painfully obvious if you actually try to use a machine like this on a desk that's less than the size of a football field, makes me wonder if they even tried to understand the philosophy behind the product they were trying to rip off.snek - Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - link
You can still stow a keyboard on that leg, the leg is not that sloped.It is a 27" thing, a small sized keyboard (are we both thinking about a mac keyboard ?rofl) would even totally fit on the left side of the leg and the mouse on the right side.
Your argument is stupid.
halcyon - Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - link
NotebookItalia has video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4opt91y1cg
- Horrible super-glossy display, glare and fingerprint magnet
- sd card reader
- eSata
- 2 x USB 3.0
- headphone/mic jack
- hdmi
- tv tuner (?)
It'd be nice if the stand was removable easily. That would make a nice tabletop computer :)