Glad to see companies going back and fixing problems with their hardware instead of just releasing new stuff. Now, if only Crucial would do the same with the C300 0006 firmware bug...
you know, i've had a crucial c300 running 0006 since january and haven't had any of the problems people talk about running on my hp dm1z's native sata 6Gbps controller.
They seem to put the time and effort in to avoid situations like this all together. I find it difficult to trust most of these inexperienced companies with my data.
My V100 bricked in January. Entered my password to Windows wrong, it thought for a moment and that was the end of that. Nothing would recognize it after. Local shop couldn't recover anything from it. Nice though they are doing something.
If I got a SSD, I would definitely run daily backups to a good old mechanical drive. However I think it's better to wait until the technology is mature enough that you can trust it with your data in the first place.
You've been warned. JMicron can't make a reliable product, it is simply not within their ability, and they have been the source of fiasco after fiasco in the storage world. When Kingston annouced a JMicron based drive after everyone else had come to their senses and realized that no one should ever use technology from that company again, I was sure that something bad would come of it. Well, here is the proof.
Research your drive. If any part of it has the word JMicron on it, run away, fast and far.
I myself own an ASUS motherboard with a JMicron controller on it, it's only used for IDE which I do not use but just having that controller on there unused still makes me feel .... dirty.
oh come on, they're not that bad. if you don't ever want a micron product again, you are going to have a seriously hard time because they make an @$$ load of tech. not to mention, IMF is like the best consumer grade nand in the world, and it's in like everything intel pumps out...
No, they really are pretty bad. Anecdotally, the jmicron IDE controller on my old Socket 775 P35 based board, when enabled, would cause the weirdest problem on the PCI bus, causing my system to hard lock if I tried to play sound.
Ditto. It controls two SATA ports on my P45 board. Just altogether weird behavior (suddenly all kinds of programs from Quintessential Player to VLC become unresponsive after reading an audio cd from a cdrom player attached to a sata port controller by the Jmicron chip) with the drivers that come with Windows or their own drivers.
I'd never think about hooking up a HD to it after reading all the problems with it, but I thought a cdrom player would be OK.
Their drivers now are WHQL (riiight), but I wonder if they simply bought that?
Agreed. I've ranted before on JMicron related articles regarding their terrible, terrible products. I feel dirty owning a netbook with one of their card readers, and they didn't even do that right (it often decides not to read the card until you insert it a few times).
Let us all be thankful that they have not reached the market penetration level that Realtek has. Crab audio, crab ethernet, crab wireless, crab system management ICs... at least Realtek's stuff is usually passable for light use and their driver updates are pretty frequent.
So, Kingston issues a firmware update for a rare problem, and AnandTech makes it front-page news. OCZ knowingly passes off inferior, slower, smaller drives as Vertex 2, and AnandTech does absolutely nothing to notify its readers when OCZ finally fesses up and agrees to replace drives.
I did have the problem. Kingston sent me RMA docs for sending the drive back through fedex (free of charge). Had to email them back after a while to know what was going on, and they ended up telling me no more v100 were available, so they shipped me a v100+
Point is, whenever I setup a system with an SSD boot drive and a large data drive, I always keep a 64 gigs unallocated partition on the big data drive. When your SSD fails, you can install windows to that partition while you wait for a replacement.
I have it on good authority that the Kingston drives would occasionally respond to a TRIM command by TRIMming (erasing) a different block than you asked to be erased. This would of course result in data loss.
This problem was reported (with information to prove it true) by an associate of mine to Kingston many weeks ago.
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Galbias - Monday, March 28, 2011 - link
Glad to see companies going back and fixing problems with their hardware instead of just releasing new stuff. Now, if only Crucial would do the same with the C300 0006 firmware bug...Samus - Monday, March 28, 2011 - link
you know, i've had a crucial c300 running 0006 since january and haven't had any of the problems people talk about running on my hp dm1z's native sata 6Gbps controller.yioemolsdow - Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - link
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jkostans - Monday, March 28, 2011 - link
They seem to put the time and effort in to avoid situations like this all together. I find it difficult to trust most of these inexperienced companies with my data.beastyben1 - Monday, March 28, 2011 - link
My V100 bricked in January. Entered my password to Windows wrong, it thought for a moment and that was the end of that. Nothing would recognize it after. Local shop couldn't recover anything from it. Nice though they are doing something.JimmiG - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
If I got a SSD, I would definitely run daily backups to a good old mechanical drive. However I think it's better to wait until the technology is mature enough that you can trust it with your data in the first place.bji - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
You've been warned. JMicron can't make a reliable product, it is simply not within their ability, and they have been the source of fiasco after fiasco in the storage world. When Kingston annouced a JMicron based drive after everyone else had come to their senses and realized that no one should ever use technology from that company again, I was sure that something bad would come of it. Well, here is the proof.Research your drive. If any part of it has the word JMicron on it, run away, fast and far.
I myself own an ASUS motherboard with a JMicron controller on it, it's only used for IDE which I do not use but just having that controller on there unused still makes me feel .... dirty.
softdrinkviking - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
oh come on, they're not that bad.if you don't ever want a micron product again, you are going to have a seriously hard time because they make an @$$ load of tech.
not to mention, IMF is like the best consumer grade nand in the world, and it's in like everything intel pumps out...
pcfxer - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
JMicron != Micron Tech. Big time fail and he's right. JMicron is worthless garbage. Ask a sysadmin that has put their jobs on the line with JMicron.piroroadkill - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
No, they really are pretty bad. Anecdotally, the jmicron IDE controller on my old Socket 775 P35 based board, when enabled, would cause the weirdest problem on the PCI bus, causing my system to hard lock if I tried to play sound.Disable the controller, and no more problems...
softdrinkviking - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
ah. JMicron. thought it was a typo, never knew there were two separate companies.yesh, guess i'll steer clear.
Nentor - Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - link
Ditto. It controls two SATA ports on my P45 board. Just altogether weird behavior (suddenly all kinds of programs from Quintessential Player to VLC become unresponsive after reading an audio cd from a cdrom player attached to a sata port controller by the Jmicron chip) with the drivers that come with Windows or their own drivers.I'd never think about hooking up a HD to it after reading all the problems with it, but I thought a cdrom player would be OK.
Their drivers now are WHQL (riiight), but I wonder if they simply bought that?
Pessimism - Tuesday, April 5, 2011 - link
+6Agreed. I've ranted before on JMicron related articles regarding their terrible, terrible products. I feel dirty owning a netbook with one of their card readers, and they didn't even do that right (it often decides not to read the card until you insert it a few times).
Let us all be thankful that they have not reached the market penetration level that Realtek has. Crab audio, crab ethernet, crab wireless, crab system management ICs... at least Realtek's stuff is usually passable for light use and their driver updates are pretty frequent.
TrevorH - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
I don't believe there is any connection between JMicron and Micron apart from 6 letters.howsthecake - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
So, Kingston issues a firmware update for a rare problem, and AnandTech makes it front-page news. OCZ knowingly passes off inferior, slower, smaller drives as Vertex 2, and AnandTech does absolutely nothing to notify its readers when OCZ finally fesses up and agrees to replace drives.Gabelooo - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link
I did have the problem. Kingston sent me RMA docs for sending the drive back through fedex (free of charge). Had to email them back after a while to know what was going on, and they ended up telling me no more v100 were available, so they shipped me a v100+Point is, whenever I setup a system with an SSD boot drive and a large data drive, I always keep a 64 gigs unallocated partition on the big data drive. When your SSD fails, you can install windows to that partition while you wait for a replacement.
derektrotter - Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - link
I have it on good authority that the Kingston drives would occasionally respond to a TRIM command by TRIMming (erasing) a different block than you asked to be erased. This would of course result in data loss.This problem was reported (with information to prove it true) by an associate of mine to Kingston many weeks ago.
Most likely this fix is related to this.
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