If it's the same 2 frames as the 3090 had it's only really going to be an issue in FPSes at higher skill levels and on a low latency connection. For anything else it's fine.
I have the 24" version of this. (it's available where I live) and it's fine for gaming. There is some acceleration hardware inside that seems to work well. It's fine for sports or movies to me. Perhaps you are more sensitive than I, but I think it looks fantastic.
Interesting note though. The contrast ratio on the NEC PA series monitors that I've seen is 800:1, whereas the other series they make, the LCD2409, 2609, ect, are H-IPS, and list a higher contrast ratio of 1000:1. I noticed this when shopping, printed on all the little spec cards at the store. I wonder if this is a trade-off for the better color depth of the S-IPS panels? I understand that the contrast numbers given can vary in actual meaning, but I'm assuming NEC uses the same criteria for contrast across its professional line.
I'm also very curious about Samsung's PLS matrix. i also want to change my monitor with an IPS or PVA panel in 22'' range, but i'm really undecided. Maybe i will wait to see what PLS are capable of. Good review by the way, thanks.
At 22", you can get a lot of great quality LCDs for reasonable prices. If you can spend 300-400, I would go for IPS, if you want to stick closer to 200, you can get a VA screen from BenQ that is 23" widescreen and looks pretty good to me. The VA screens have between the viewing angles of the IPS and the TN, but without the color shift I noticed on TNs. When a VA goes out of view, it just looks dark, not pink or something weird like a TN. But I don't know how "calibration-friendly" VAs are. If photography is a concern for you, and you need the print to match the image in your screen, I think IPS is better. This new samsung technology is anybodys guess, but I wouldn't get one until they have been put through the paces a bit and prove reliability. NEC and LG have had a long time to work the kinks out of IPS, and it's widespread adoption in critical industries did not occur by chance.
va's calibrate fine. many eizo's use va panels. but va panels have off-angle gamma shift, though, and it doesn't take a lot of angle to notice it. for me, anyway. this is most evident in darker shades. i tried an eizo monitor once and i couldn't stand watching movies on it because if i moved my head even slightly, shadow details would 'shimmer'. the only thing i liked about the eizo was that it had phenomenal black levels, as modern va panel usually do.
I expect the advertisers paid for ads alongside articles, not for in-article placement. I expect advertisers also paid to have ads displayed during a certain period (say, a week or a month), not necessarily to have it display in-perpetuity in the archives. I don't know if AnandTech is syndicated and/or translated for different markets, but if it is, then if they included the ads they might have to redo the image for every market.
"Interestingly enough, the PA301w has a uniformity setting inside the OSD which defaults to 5 (maximum) and seems to definitely improve overall brightness uniformity and Delta-E consistency. Whatever secret sauce NEC has apparently works. "
If this works the same way I think it does on the 3090, the internal LUT adjusts different parts of the screen differently to boost uniformity. I'd be curious what happens to it in 10bit mode though, since the 3090 did this by mapping 8 bit input to a 10bit panel/LUT.
Is this any better than in the multisync 90 series? The ones on my 2090/3090's were really flimsy and if you tried picking up the monitor the wrong way some of the tabs holding them on would snap off.
Great review Brian. Regarding Eizo current FlexScan 30" is getting pretty "old". Their brand new 27" SX2762W with dual displayports (v1.1a) looks more interesting for the pro-consumer I imagine.
Any word of monitors with displayport v1.2 support for daisy-chaining?
No. Bad, worse, worst is correct if you're talking about a negative connotation, but if you're using bad like in "oh, he's a total bad-ass!" you would never say, "Yeah, but I'm a worse-ass!" LOL
If you're asking about reviews; I believe that with rare exceptions review models are provided by the manufacturer not bought by the anandtech staff; so unless Hazro offers to send a review sample they won't be reviewed here.
It's the same price as the outgoing 3090. Ezio sells high end displays for a similar price. These aren't intended as high end consumer displays like the Dell/HP models. They're aimed at professional customers; typically commercial photographers, and video producers.
A big part of the price is probably panel binning, not all panels in a batch are equal and the manufactures charge a big premium for the best of the lot (less variation, fewer dead pixels, etc).
The image processor in the multisync 90 series added about $200 to the cost and was used to farther normalize variations across the panel so you didn't end up with things like a bright corner. I'd assume the current model's processor is less expensive, but probably not by a lot.
Finally the price premium from all the extra features that don't matter to consumers pushes the total cost up higher, since it cuts into the total customer base. $1300 vs $1800 is a big deal for a consumer on a budget, $1800 vs $2300 is much less for a (typically corporate) customer who has a need for the best on the market.
$2200 is not a joke. Actually, it's a drop in the bucket - depending on your perspective.
I'm not a radiologist, but I read films as part of my work. Our radiology workstations use dual Eizo monitors. 2 x $2200 doesn't even come close to the full cost of these stations - it's not the workstations. It's not the computer. Most of the money the hospital pays is for the PAX software licensing fees.
I take care of small clinics around my area. It's jaw dropping what medical equipment/software companies charge for their products/services. In the end it's the insurance companies that pay... and we pay them.
Any small "niche" market that's willing to pay the cost gets raked across the coals with costs, particularly if the payer is simply passing the cost on to someone else.
On the other hand, selling a product to 1 vs. 10 vs. 100 vs 1000 vs etc customers gets cheaper per unit.
I've worked on programs where we had 1 customer. The total bill was rather astronomical to the customer. But that 1 customer had to pay salaries for 40 people, plus all equipment costs plus overhead rates for building costs, power, electricity, etc. I've also worked on programs where we had about 10,000 customers. The total cost of the program was about 10 times higher. But the cost per customer was about 10 times less. Economies of scale will matter.
In this case, the cost of the hardware is relatively insignificant - I'm more than happy to pay 2000+ dollars for something that I will use on a daily basis for my livelihood, particularly if it saves me "12 minutes" per day over something that costs about $1000. If I work for a full year, those 12 minutes per day average out to about 52 hours a year. You have to earn "only" about $19.25 dollars per hour to make that cost up in just one year. For the jobs that would use something like this, $19.25/hr is paltry, particularly when you factor in the actual cost for that one person to do work (building rental rates, electricity rates, support staff, etc).
Now, for my home use, you just have to figure out what your time is worth to you. If your time isn't worth anything, then you should clearly never actually have any free time. Otherwise, you're wasting time away.
First off, very happy to see that you're starting to include the high end displays in your review comparisons, thank you very much. My main two questions come as a general NEC user. First, it's not entirely clear exactly where the PA301w fits in to NEC Display's lineup. While it appears to be a straight up successor to the LCD3090WQXI that 90 series is still for sale as new on NEC's site (at a list price difference of just $100). Comparison makes it appear the PA301w has everything the 3090 did with some added tweaks and updated tech, such as slightly improved gamut and enhanced 14-bit lookup table, but it would have been clearer if NEC simply had retired to the old screen or made it a last-gen reduced price model or whatever. As it is, having zero reference to the previous flagship is a bit odd.
Second, while you mention the hardware calibrator you're using I don't see any reference to the software, which can matter just as much. NEC's own SpectraView II software for example can talk to their screens via DDC/CI and directly adjust the internal LUTs as well as all other screen settings, which is not something I'm sure that 3rd party software can do (I know at least a few brands can't but I've never exhaustively checked the rest). Given how much you talk about doing manual adjustments I was curious whether you found that necessary even with SVII or if you were using some other solution like X-Rite's software.
the software he used was coloreyes display pro, he didn't use spectraview ii at all. the fact that he mentioned having to adjust things manually means that coloreyes doesn't support internal adjustments to the monitor.
the spectraview ii (or spectraview profiler in europe) software does all of the adjustments automatically, requiring no manual button pushing on the part of the user at all. in fact, if you then make manual changes to the monitor after calibration, the software warns you that the calibration has been tampered with. (you probably knew this already, i'm just stating this for the benefit of users here who don't know much about high end nec monitors.)
brian, please update the article with information about the spectraview software and its ability to internally calibrate the monitor lut and store the calibrations into the monitor itself. this is one of the monitor's raisons d'etre. not mentioning it is like writing a review of a ferrari 458 and omitting that it can go fast.
$2300? I just picked up a ZR30W for $1200. Pricewise, these aren't even in the same league. Also, not sure of the input lag on the NEC, but lag on the ZR30W is much less than the Dell due to the lack of an OSD. I'll take that any day....you can do most anything an OSD can do through the control panel or Windows anyway.
input lag on high end nec's (90 series, pa series) tend to average around 30-40ms. these monitors aren't intended for gaming so input lag wasn't a priority when they were designed.
these monitors have phenomenal scalers, if you care about that sort of thing. not only can you choose from 'full', 'aspect', and '1:1', but you can choose to stretch the picture any which way you want, like on a crt.
again, if you just want to play games, buy a cheaper 30" and spend the remainder on video cards and cpu's.
When i saw the title, i thought, wow, this must be a really bad monitor. After reading the review, it looks like it is THE BEST with except of weight and dimensions.
I am sitting in front of a 21" CRT that I am still reluctant to pass on (Sony GDM F520) and those weigh around 35 kg / 77 lbs. It can only do 2048x max.
We had this discussion on one of the previous 30" monitor reviews. While LEDs backlights are lower power than CCFLs and have won most of the mobile market, and while LEDs can surpass the gamut and color accuracy of midrange CCFLs at an acceptable price premium and are winning the consumer display market, the best RGB LED backlights still cannot beat the gamut and color accuracy of the best CCFL backlights. Until that happens (or until consumer demand becomes large enough to sell a less capable low power model) displays aimed directly at the professional market will continue to use CCFL backlighting despite the higher power consumption.
The final point I'd make is that the "typical" power consumption NEC lists is a worst case number. Depending on brightnesss Brian measured 58-136 watts, and like most modern LCDs the maximum brightness levels are too high to use comfortably outside of an exceptionally bright area (because otherwise they'd be too dim in places), so you won't be running it at maximum brightness unless you're working outside in the desert.
Not exactly right i guess. Every now and then there are some good RGB LED monitors in the news (at least on paper)... e.g. the LaCie 730 (http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=1109... I don't know for sure if its any good 'cause i only have a poor Dell U3011 on my desk, but who knows?! ;)
Ryan, In there documentation, NEC claims that their calibrator is factory-tailored to NECs monitors, which seems to suggest that it is more than a "rebranding."
Of course, this could all just be marketing, and they could be the same thing. Do you know for sure one way or the other?
From what I've seen, it really does look like a rebranded X-Rite i1D2. It's possible they've done some internal calibration as well (I know a few vendors do things like calibrate the colorimeter). It'd also make sense it's just rebranded since the i1D2 is the only thing that will work with internal monitor calibration.
Yes, the NEC calibrator is tuned by X-Rite to more correctly read our MultiSync PA Series wide gamut displays. It is not the same as a retail i1 Display2.
Art Marshall Product Manager, NEC Display Solutions of America
"Apr 12, 2010 2:22 PM in response to: Zeno Bokor Re: Photoshop 10bit support Actually, the 10 bit/channel display path is working quite well in CS5 - on cards and displays that support it.
Again, we've been working with the manufacturers for a while to get it working..." -Chris Cox (Photoshop lead)
I would be surprised if its the only software that handles 30bit
Having tested this in practise, the 'working quite well' in practice means glitchy as anything. Half the tools don't work properly in terms of rendering around the cursor...if you more thoroughly browse Chris's comments on it in the PS forums, you'll see he acknowledges this.
If you're going to start commenting on colour accurate monitor like the NEC PA series or the Eizo CG series, you're going to need to seriously step up both your knowledge and methodology I'm afraid.
You should probably provide a caveat in this review, as the whole colour and uniformity section is pretty much flat out wrong.
For starters, your ED2 is simply not the right sensor to use with sort of monitor - designed quite some years ago now, it's simply incapable of reading the wider gamuts of modern displays accurately. Essentially any other sensor would do better - the Eye One Pro is the obvious choice for you guys I'd say, but really a Munki, Spyder3 or similar would be a better starting point. This has probably lead to the likely very erroneous reading of 5600K for the from factory whitepoint - almost all the PAs seem to come out of the factory bang on 6500K when properly tested. The ED2 is absolutely crap at measuring the primaries on monitors like these.
The NEC sensor has tweaked filters to cope with these monitors and does a much better job but you probably need a general purpose solution like the Eye One Pro.
Further, for calibration, this monitor is crying out to be used with SpectraView2 which is NEC's direct hardware calibration software that can directly manipulate the 14 bit monitor LUTs. Basically, not using this software is kind of defeating the point of using a display like this.
You might want to contact Will Hollingsworth at NEC Colour Critical Displays to have a chat and see if you can't re-visit some of this testing with better methodology & equipment.
...basically, the Mac can't do 10 bit right now (confirmed by both Apple and Adobe), and while the PC has 10 bit support int he OS and it generally works, there are some big issues - Aero effects gets turned off, and apps that sort of support 10 bit like Photoshop have some big glitches still (you can see PS render an 8 bit working square around the cursor with some of the tools that aren't 10 it ready!) - most likely Win8 and Photoshop CS6 will be where 10 bit really comes in to play.
Probably nto much. The main benefit will likely be being able to render images marked as sRGB on an extended gamut display without banding or over saturation problems.
Err, dan that isn't right. sRGB rendering on the PA series is already remakrably good and there's no banding issues. The over saturation issues come mainly from non CM stuff, particularly OS elements and the like, that are sent as raw RGB numbers and thus appear quite oversaturated. I think you'll see UI designers tone down the colour going forward...
The main benefit will most likely be considerably better control of colour in deep shadows.
This is what I could dig up for the community, or any curious bystanders...
First of all, NEC just redid their whole website like yesterday! so I can't find exactly the same info I was referring to.
But... here is an excerpt from the FAQ for the Spectraview2 software...
" Which is better: a colorimeter or spectrophotometer such as the X-Rite iOne Pro?
In general a spectrophotometer provides more accurate color measurements than a "generic" colorimeter does when measuring most displays. However a colorimeter can be specifically calibrated against a lab grade instrument to match a particular type of display, and thus provide extremely accurate color measurements. This approach was taken with the new custom-calibrated X-Rite iOne Display V2 included in the Display Calibration Bundle.
A spectrophotometer can suffer from drift and low luminance noise issues that can cause problems—specifically when measuring and calibrating near black. In general colorimeters provide superior low luminance measurements than spectrophotometer."
So a couple of interesting things are said here. 1. Colorimeters can be better than uber-expensive spectrophotometers in certain metrics and 2. That NEC specifically calibrates their version of the x-rite meter to compensate for the shortcomings of the colorimeter process.
So, if NEC is to be believed, you need an NEC branded meter to achieve better than so-so results from a generic colorimeter.
here's the link to that, split-up, if you wanna see for yourself... http:// necdisplay. com /support-and-services/spectra-view-II/FAQ
This is first time on andtech that I've read a review that I would consider clearly biased. I follow development of 30 inch monitors closely for a last couple of years, since I want one but not yet committed to it.
My reasoning is that in final thought writer, at least, should have mentioned about the relative price point to other 30" monitors. If that was done it would be clear that this monitor does not fit well anywhere in the market of 30" monitors.
Just bellow it, in performance, is HP ZR30 w which is can be acquired for $1100-1200 (for half the price) and performs very closely to this NEC.
As result the only consumers that might consider this monitor for whom the price is not the option, but then there are monitors in 5K range that perform even better than this one.
Also from the gamer perspective, which I speculate is the biggest audience here, ZR30w probably will be a better choice, because NEC, most likely, will not perform as well on response time as ZR30w since NEC has OSD (and that slows down response time as described in recent dell 30" monitor review.) This is a speculation and we need to wait for the results for response time to be posted.
Finally, I got an impression from this article that being big and heavy is a good thing (unfortunately I do not think phrase form Snatch "If it does not work, you can hit with it" would apply here.) Even the title of the article emphasizes that. This big and heavy quality of the monitor is defensibly a drawback, especially when it is 20lb heavier than other 30" monitors.
Conclusion that I came to from this article is that this monitor is nothing to be excited about, and is not a good buy for any consumer/prosumer segment. Performance benefits, and extra features that this NEC monitor has do not justify a $1000 premium.
It is a product marketed at a professional audience, with a price and some features to match. Many people have been wondering how the "cheap" 30" displays compare to some of the options targeted at professionals, now they have a comparison. Yes, gamers are better off buying a cheaper one.
If the colour accuracy stuff in this review had been done properly, then you would have seen the NEC way out in front of the HP and, for the target market, that's pretty important. Not saying the HP doesn't make sense for gamers, but for the pro image makers that NEC are targetting, the PA30 is a spectacular device from a performance/price point of view when compared to it's real competition which is the CG303W from Eizo (and that's about it).
with these days of half inch thick led panels this thing looks like something from 6 or 7 years ago. $2300 not thanks. Im just fine with my 30" HP ZR30w super ips panel you last reviewed. Works great and im still in awe of it with gaming and daily use. $1200 much better spent.
But where is the innovation? Where are the higher pixel density displays. Those that want 2560x1600 displays but in a more manageable 24" or 27" format?
And what about ultra-hi resolution like 3840x2160 in 27"? Allowing you to read documents/PDFs in near-print DPI quality. Why is no-one making these?. the panels ARE available! http://www.chimei-innolux.com/opencms/cmo/products...
I currently own the NEC PA271W, the little brother to this monitor. I kind of prefer the 271 over the 301 because it has a finer dot pitch, therefore I don't have to move my head around as much. You do lose 160 horizontal lines, but it's really not too much of a big deal. It's the best monitor I've used so far.
Those with poorer eye sight though should get the 301.
Does this nec screen have a good scaler like the dell? Being able to play at lower resolution while having games that still look good is great feature of the dell.
Thanks a lot for adding the custom refresh rates testing results.
They look promising, and I assume the OSD for the refresh rate is only accurate to 1 decimal place. So, 29.97 gets rounded up to 30, 23.976 to 24, but 59.94 is only 59.9 :)
It will be interesting to see whether these refresh rates are supported in any of the cheaper LCD models.
How does the display treat video content? Particularly, how is the display of interlaced content at native and non-native refresh rates. It is quite interesting to me, but I would also like to know whether any of the other readers think it is an aspect worth reporting on.
Like ganeshts, I, too, am very interested in how it does with video, but only a little in how it does with interlaced content. Mostly, I'm interested in how it would compare to a high-end HDTV when playing high definition progressive media, such as a standard Blu-ray movie.
I'm trying to put a new system together which can function as both a workstation and HTPC (and gaming rig, but I'm not as concerned with color quality there), and the extra pixels of a 2560 x 1600 display would be very valuable to me when I'm using the system as a workstation, but I'm also looking for great video playback, and if I could find one device which could provide both, I would gladly pay the price premium for an NEC or Ezio over the HP or Dell 30", as it would be saving me from using an actual HDTV and sacrificing much workspace.
My personal reference points are the Sony HX909 and Panasonic VT-25, because those are the ones I am familiar with from when I was looking into HDTVs (at which point I could hear a tiny voice shouting "Pixels! Pixels!"), but information relating to the NEC or Ezio (or HP or Dell) to any TV would be helpful because I could then compare that TV to the ones I know.
If there is a review of the Ezio 30", I'd really appreciate it if some information about video playback was included. I assume, with all of the attention to color accuracy of the NEC and Ezio, that their performance is very good, equal or close to that of a high-end HDTV, but I'd rather not assume.
Thanks for this test of a high-end display. Even if one is not in the market for a pro-caliber device, it is very useful to see how consumer-/prosumer-level devices compare to it.
I just heard today from a reputable source that EIZO plans to eventually replace its 30-inch 2560x1600 monitors with 27-inch 2560x1440 models, which feature nearly the same resolution in a more compact (and much lighter weight) package. 30-inchers are simply too big and massive for most people and require moving one's head side to side too much; 27 inches should be a better overall solution for most. AnandTech already has tested the two 27-inch monitors by Dell and Apple. Can you please test NEC's 2560x1440 entry in this blossoming market segment, the PA271W? It has received positive reviews from others, but your methodology is more rigorous and needs to be applied to this model. EIZO also has two 27-inch 2560x1440 models being released this month, the FlexScan SX2762W and ColorEdge CG275W; a joint test of those two models also would be great. It will be interesting to see which is best--NEC or EIZO (or maybe Dell).
i just bought it, and noticed a pretty significant backlight bleeding, starting from TOP MIddle to right top corner , and noticed the exact same one bleeding is in one of pictures of yours at NEC PA301w Viewing Angle Gallery in the very first black screen picture
just wandering if all units got the same issue about BLB ??
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Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Imagine gaming with 3 of these. wowee wowee wowee.Now imagine having to work for weeks on end to be able to pay for them. lol
ImSpartacus - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
I'm definitely not educated on the subject, but wouldn't the response time be detrimental to most gaming?But from a purely size and resolution standpoint, it would be pretty neat.
DanNeely - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
If it's the same 2 frames as the 3090 had it's only really going to be an issue in FPSes at higher skill levels and on a low latency connection. For anything else it's fine.softdrinkviking - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
I have the 24" version of this. (it's available where I live) and it's fine for gaming. There is some acceleration hardware inside that seems to work well. It's fine for sports or movies to me.Perhaps you are more sensitive than I, but I think it looks fantastic.
Interesting note though. The contrast ratio on the NEC PA series monitors that I've seen is 800:1, whereas the other series they make, the LCD2409, 2609, ect, are H-IPS, and list a higher contrast ratio of 1000:1.
I noticed this when shopping, printed on all the little spec cards at the store.
I wonder if this is a trade-off for the better color depth of the S-IPS panels?
I understand that the contrast numbers given can vary in actual meaning, but I'm assuming NEC uses the same criteria for contrast across its professional line.
Stas - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Because size matters...thereaderrabbit - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
The kilowatt is equal to one thousand (10^3) watts. I think this is what you mean by Kill-A-Watt.LukeDK - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
A Kill-A-Watt is a device used for measuring power consumption (or voltage, current, frequency, etc) at the plug.LTG - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
So nice to see someone point out a correction without insult or condescencion.MobiusStrip - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
He must be new to the Internet.Stas - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
What a wuss63jax - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
I'm also very curious about Samsung's PLS matrix. i also want to change my monitor with an IPS or PVA panel in 22'' range, but i'm really undecided. Maybe i will wait to see what PLS are capable of. Good review by the way, thanks.softdrinkviking - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
At 22", you can get a lot of great quality LCDs for reasonable prices. If you can spend 300-400, I would go for IPS, if you want to stick closer to 200, you can get a VA screen from BenQ that is 23" widescreen and looks pretty good to me. The VA screens have between the viewing angles of the IPS and the TN, but without the color shift I noticed on TNs. When a VA goes out of view, it just looks dark, not pink or something weird like a TN.But I don't know how "calibration-friendly" VAs are. If photography is a concern for you, and you need the print to match the image in your screen, I think IPS is better.
This new samsung technology is anybodys guess, but I wouldn't get one until they have been put through the paces a bit and prove reliability.
NEC and LG have had a long time to work the kinks out of IPS, and it's widespread adoption in critical industries did not occur by chance.
eaw999 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
va's calibrate fine. many eizo's use va panels. but va panels have off-angle gamma shift, though, and it doesn't take a lot of angle to notice it. for me, anyway. this is most evident in darker shades. i tried an eizo monitor once and i couldn't stand watching movies on it because if i moved my head even slightly, shadow details would 'shimmer'. the only thing i liked about the eizo was that it had phenomenal black levels, as modern va panel usually do.legoman666 - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
It's amusing to see that Anandtech staff run adblock+ on their own website.quiksilvr - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
ROFL! Even they admit their adverts are annoying as hell.Stas - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
lol. Sponsors won't be happy about that ^.^gc_ - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
I expect the advertisers paid for ads alongside articles, not for in-article placement. I expect advertisers also paid to have ads displayed during a certain period (say, a week or a month), not necessarily to have it display in-perpetuity in the archives. I don't know if AnandTech is syndicated and/or translated for different markets, but if it is, then if they included the ads they might have to redo the image for every market.DanNeely - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
"Interestingly enough, the PA301w has a uniformity setting inside the OSD which defaults to 5 (maximum) and seems to definitely improve overall brightness uniformity and Delta-E consistency. Whatever secret sauce NEC has apparently works. "If this works the same way I think it does on the 3090, the internal LUT adjusts different parts of the screen differently to boost uniformity. I'd be curious what happens to it in 10bit mode though, since the 3090 did this by mapping 8 bit input to a 10bit panel/LUT.
DanNeely - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Should've looked at the specs before asking. The pa301w has a 14bit lookup table to use for onboard calibration/adjusting for screen variation.DanNeely - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Is this any better than in the multisync 90 series? The ones on my 2090/3090's were really flimsy and if you tried picking up the monitor the wrong way some of the tabs holding them on would snap off.7Enigma - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Are you seriously going to be frequently moving a 60+ pound display?erson - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Great review Brian. Regarding Eizo current FlexScan 30" is getting pretty "old". Their brand new 27" SX2762W with dual displayports (v1.1a) looks more interesting for the pro-consumer I imagine.Any word of monitors with displayport v1.2 support for daisy-chaining?
Conficio - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
instead of "The baddest..."JarredWalton - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
No. Bad, worse, worst is correct if you're talking about a negative connotation, but if you're using bad like in "oh, he's a total bad-ass!" you would never say, "Yeah, but I'm a worse-ass!" LOLLuay - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
https://www.hazro.co.uk/shop.html#ecwid:category=4...They sell in the UK but do ship overseas and are priced cheaper than any 2560x1600 out there. You will find reviews for their models in TFT central.
DanNeely - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
If you're asking about reviews; I believe that with rare exceptions review models are provided by the manufacturer not bought by the anandtech staff; so unless Hazro offers to send a review sample they won't be reviewed here.eaw999 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
warranty issues would be a pain for anyone overseas though.gammaray - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
2200$+ ...is this a freaking joke?
DanNeely - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
It's the same price as the outgoing 3090. Ezio sells high end displays for a similar price. These aren't intended as high end consumer displays like the Dell/HP models. They're aimed at professional customers; typically commercial photographers, and video producers.A big part of the price is probably panel binning, not all panels in a batch are equal and the manufactures charge a big premium for the best of the lot (less variation, fewer dead pixels, etc).
The image processor in the multisync 90 series added about $200 to the cost and was used to farther normalize variations across the panel so you didn't end up with things like a bright corner. I'd assume the current model's processor is less expensive, but probably not by a lot.
Finally the price premium from all the extra features that don't matter to consumers pushes the total cost up higher, since it cuts into the total customer base. $1300 vs $1800 is a big deal for a consumer on a budget, $1800 vs $2300 is much less for a (typically corporate) customer who has a need for the best on the market.
hp540 - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
$2200 is not a joke. Actually, it's a drop in the bucket - depending on your perspective.I'm not a radiologist, but I read films as part of my work. Our radiology workstations use dual Eizo monitors. 2 x $2200 doesn't even come close to the full cost of these stations - it's not the workstations. It's not the computer. Most of the money the hospital pays is for the PAX software licensing fees.
MeanBruce - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Whoooooooaaaaaa! Nice to hear the real truth about hospital medical costs thanks for the skinny!Stas - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
I take care of small clinics around my area. It's jaw dropping what medical equipment/software companies charge for their products/services. In the end it's the insurance companies that pay... and we pay them.erple2 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Any small "niche" market that's willing to pay the cost gets raked across the coals with costs, particularly if the payer is simply passing the cost on to someone else.On the other hand, selling a product to 1 vs. 10 vs. 100 vs 1000 vs etc customers gets cheaper per unit.
I've worked on programs where we had 1 customer. The total bill was rather astronomical to the customer. But that 1 customer had to pay salaries for 40 people, plus all equipment costs plus overhead rates for building costs, power, electricity, etc. I've also worked on programs where we had about 10,000 customers. The total cost of the program was about 10 times higher. But the cost per customer was about 10 times less. Economies of scale will matter.
In this case, the cost of the hardware is relatively insignificant - I'm more than happy to pay 2000+ dollars for something that I will use on a daily basis for my livelihood, particularly if it saves me "12 minutes" per day over something that costs about $1000. If I work for a full year, those 12 minutes per day average out to about 52 hours a year. You have to earn "only" about $19.25 dollars per hour to make that cost up in just one year. For the jobs that would use something like this, $19.25/hr is paltry, particularly when you factor in the actual cost for that one person to do work (building rental rates, electricity rates, support staff, etc).
Now, for my home use, you just have to figure out what your time is worth to you. If your time isn't worth anything, then you should clearly never actually have any free time. Otherwise, you're wasting time away.
Ferzerp - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
I think you mean PACS. I'm not sure what PAX would stand for.Griswold - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
He obviously meant POX!hp540 - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
No actually, I didn't mean PACS.When I said PAX, I meant PAX. Our hospital uses ImPAX from AGFA for reading films on radiology workstations:
http://www.agfahealthcare.com/global/en/main/produ...
The Eizo monitors and Dell workstations costs just a little fraction of the licensing cost of installing ImPAX on these stations.
zanon - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
First off, very happy to see that you're starting to include the high end displays in your review comparisons, thank you very much. My main two questions come as a general NEC user. First, it's not entirely clear exactly where the PA301w fits in to NEC Display's lineup. While it appears to be a straight up successor to the LCD3090WQXI that 90 series is still for sale as new on NEC's site (at a list price difference of just $100). Comparison makes it appear the PA301w has everything the 3090 did with some added tweaks and updated tech, such as slightly improved gamut and enhanced 14-bit lookup table, but it would have been clearer if NEC simply had retired to the old screen or made it a last-gen reduced price model or whatever. As it is, having zero reference to the previous flagship is a bit odd.Second, while you mention the hardware calibrator you're using I don't see any reference to the software, which can matter just as much. NEC's own SpectraView II software for example can talk to their screens via DDC/CI and directly adjust the internal LUTs as well as all other screen settings, which is not something I'm sure that 3rd party software can do (I know at least a few brands can't but I've never exhaustively checked the rest). Given how much you talk about doing manual adjustments I was curious whether you found that necessary even with SVII or if you were using some other solution like X-Rite's software.
eaw999 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
the software he used was coloreyes display pro, he didn't use spectraview ii at all. the fact that he mentioned having to adjust things manually means that coloreyes doesn't support internal adjustments to the monitor.the spectraview ii (or spectraview profiler in europe) software does all of the adjustments automatically, requiring no manual button pushing on the part of the user at all. in fact, if you then make manual changes to the monitor after calibration, the software warns you that the calibration has been tampered with. (you probably knew this already, i'm just stating this for the benefit of users here who don't know much about high end nec monitors.)
brian, please update the article with information about the spectraview software and its ability to internally calibrate the monitor lut and store the calibrations into the monitor itself. this is one of the monitor's raisons d'etre. not mentioning it is like writing a review of a ferrari 458 and omitting that it can go fast.
wellortech - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
$2300? I just picked up a ZR30W for $1200. Pricewise, these aren't even in the same league. Also, not sure of the input lag on the NEC, but lag on the ZR30W is much less than the Dell due to the lack of an OSD. I'll take that any day....you can do most anything an OSD can do through the control panel or Windows anyway.eaw999 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
input lag on high end nec's (90 series, pa series) tend to average around 30-40ms. these monitors aren't intended for gaming so input lag wasn't a priority when they were designed.these monitors have phenomenal scalers, if you care about that sort of thing. not only can you choose from 'full', 'aspect', and '1:1', but you can choose to stretch the picture any which way you want, like on a crt.
again, if you just want to play games, buy a cheaper 30" and spend the remainder on video cards and cpu's.
mbaroud - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
When i saw the title, i thought, wow, this must be a really bad monitor.After reading the review, it looks like it is THE BEST with except of weight and dimensions.
Could you please change title, its misleading.
LTG - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
It's an American coloquialism instantly recognized by most who lived there whole lives here.That said, there is a lot of word play in journalism I don't get and is a little frustrating when it happens to me so I understand your point.
Mumrik - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Ever heard of "The Baddest Man of the Planet"?This is a very normal way to put it. Nothing wrong with the title.
Zoomer - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link
Given the international audience anandtech serves, he has a point.Soulkeeper - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
CCFL Backlight165 watts (typical)
41.5 lbs (18.8 kg)
2560 x 1600 at 60 Hz
Might as well just get a 21" CRT with those specs and price ...
Nentor - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
I am sitting in front of a 21" CRT that I am still reluctant to pass on (Sony GDM F520) and those weigh around 35 kg / 77 lbs. It can only do 2048x max.DanNeely - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
We had this discussion on one of the previous 30" monitor reviews. While LEDs backlights are lower power than CCFLs and have won most of the mobile market, and while LEDs can surpass the gamut and color accuracy of midrange CCFLs at an acceptable price premium and are winning the consumer display market, the best RGB LED backlights still cannot beat the gamut and color accuracy of the best CCFL backlights. Until that happens (or until consumer demand becomes large enough to sell a less capable low power model) displays aimed directly at the professional market will continue to use CCFL backlighting despite the higher power consumption.The final point I'd make is that the "typical" power consumption NEC lists is a worst case number. Depending on brightnesss Brian measured 58-136 watts, and like most modern LCDs the maximum brightness levels are too high to use comfortably outside of an exceptionally bright area (because otherwise they'd be too dim in places), so you won't be running it at maximum brightness unless you're working outside in the desert.
Breit - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Not exactly right i guess. Every now and then there are some good RGB LED monitors in the news (at least on paper)... e.g. the LaCie 730 (http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=1109... I don't know for sure if its any good 'cause i only have a poor Dell U3011 on my desk, but who knows?! ;)AnnonymousCoward - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
I'll pass going into detail about how insane you are.Griswold - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
You should have passed the test for "Professional display equipment 101" instead.Lazlo Panaflex - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
"It's seriously the Ron Jeremy of monitors if there were such a thing."Nah, more like John Holmes....
2 x this beast + AMD 6990 + Crysis2 = boner-rific
MeanBruce - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Done with the slow funk, so done with Dell out the f'in door end of the driveway pickup! Welcome those beautiful 30inches! ;)softdrinkviking - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Ryan,In there documentation, NEC claims that their calibrator is factory-tailored to NECs monitors, which seems to suggest that it is more than a "rebranding."
Of course, this could all just be marketing, and they could be the same thing.
Do you know for sure one way or the other?
softdrinkviking - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Oops. Brian. Not Ryan! Sorry... :)Ryan Smith - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
It's okay. It happens all the time. ;-)Brian Klug - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
From what I've seen, it really does look like a rebranded X-Rite i1D2. It's possible they've done some internal calibration as well (I know a few vendors do things like calibrate the colorimeter). It'd also make sense it's just rebranded since the i1D2 is the only thing that will work with internal monitor calibration.-Brian
eaw999 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
it's an i1d2 puck, but modified to allow proper calibration of wide gamut monitors.NEC_Art - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Yes, the NEC calibrator is tuned by X-Rite to more correctly read our MultiSync PA Series wide gamut displays. It is not the same as a retail i1 Display2.Art Marshall
Product Manager, NEC Display Solutions of America
peegeenyc - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
can anyone find this for sale at a major discount retailer?It seems only NEC sell it at full price from my search results.
Azethoth - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
"Apr 12, 2010 2:22 PM in response to: Zeno BokorRe: Photoshop 10bit support
Actually, the 10 bit/channel display path is working quite well in CS5 - on cards and displays that support it.
Again, we've been working with the manufacturers for a while to get it working..."
-Chris Cox (Photoshop lead)
I would be surprised if its the only software that handles 30bit
bossanova808 - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
Having tested this in practise, the 'working quite well' in practice means glitchy as anything. Half the tools don't work properly in terms of rendering around the cursor...if you more thoroughly browse Chris's comments on it in the PS forums, you'll see he acknowledges this.SanX - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Must be 4K for $2K.Only 100 DPI, or 184 implied DPI ? For $2K ? I see every pixel on it
Griswold - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Dont talk about things you dont understand, please.bossanova808 - Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - link
Hi FolksIf you're going to start commenting on colour accurate monitor like the NEC PA series or the Eizo CG series, you're going to need to seriously step up both your knowledge and methodology I'm afraid.
You should probably provide a caveat in this review, as the whole colour and uniformity section is pretty much flat out wrong.
For starters, your ED2 is simply not the right sensor to use with sort of monitor - designed quite some years ago now, it's simply incapable of reading the wider gamuts of modern displays accurately. Essentially any other sensor would do better - the Eye One Pro is the obvious choice for you guys I'd say, but really a Munki, Spyder3 or similar would be a better starting point. This has probably lead to the likely very erroneous reading of 5600K for the from factory whitepoint - almost all the PAs seem to come out of the factory bang on 6500K when properly tested. The ED2 is absolutely crap at measuring the primaries on monitors like these.
The NEC sensor has tweaked filters to cope with these monitors and does a much better job but you probably need a general purpose solution like the Eye One Pro.
Further, for calibration, this monitor is crying out to be used with SpectraView2 which is NEC's direct hardware calibration software that can directly manipulate the 14 bit monitor LUTs. Basically, not using this software is kind of defeating the point of using a display like this.
You might want to contact Will Hollingsworth at NEC Colour Critical Displays to have a chat and see if you can't re-visit some of this testing with better methodology & equipment.
eaw999 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
agreed 100%.bossanova808 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
...basically, the Mac can't do 10 bit right now (confirmed by both Apple and Adobe), and while the PC has 10 bit support int he OS and it generally works, there are some big issues - Aero effects gets turned off, and apps that sort of support 10 bit like Photoshop have some big glitches still (you can see PS render an 8 bit working square around the cursor with some of the tools that aren't 10 it ready!) - most likely Win8 and Photoshop CS6 will be where 10 bit really comes in to play.softdrinkviking - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
and when 10 bit color finally "comes into play," is it really going to make much of a difference?or should i say, will most people even be able to tell the difference?
DanNeely - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Probably nto much. The main benefit will likely be being able to render images marked as sRGB on an extended gamut display without banding or over saturation problems.bossanova808 - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
Err, dan that isn't right. sRGB rendering on the PA series is already remakrably good and there's no banding issues. The over saturation issues come mainly from non CM stuff, particularly OS elements and the like, that are sent as raw RGB numbers and thus appear quite oversaturated. I think you'll see UI designers tone down the colour going forward...The main benefit will most likely be considerably better control of colour in deep shadows.
softdrinkviking - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Thanks for the response...This is what I could dig up for the community, or any curious bystanders...
First of all, NEC just redid their whole website like yesterday! so I can't find exactly the same info I was referring to.
But... here is an excerpt from the FAQ for the Spectraview2 software...
" Which is better: a colorimeter or spectrophotometer such as the X-Rite iOne Pro?
In general a spectrophotometer provides more accurate color measurements than a "generic" colorimeter does when measuring most displays. However a colorimeter can be specifically calibrated against a lab grade instrument to match a particular type of display, and thus provide extremely accurate color measurements. This approach was taken with the new custom-calibrated X-Rite iOne Display V2 included in the Display Calibration Bundle.
A spectrophotometer can suffer from drift and low luminance noise issues that can cause problems—specifically when measuring and calibrating near black. In general colorimeters provide superior low luminance measurements than spectrophotometer."
So a couple of interesting things are said here. 1. Colorimeters can be better than uber-expensive spectrophotometers in certain metrics and 2. That NEC specifically calibrates their version of the x-rite meter to compensate for the shortcomings of the colorimeter process.
So, if NEC is to be believed, you need an NEC branded meter to achieve better than so-so results from a generic colorimeter.
here's the link to that, split-up, if you wanna see for yourself...
http:// necdisplay. com /support-and-services/spectra-view-II/FAQ
Seanrus - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
This is first time on andtech that I've read a review that I would consider clearly biased. I follow development of 30 inch monitors closely for a last couple of years, since I want one but not yet committed to it.My reasoning is that in final thought writer, at least, should have mentioned about the relative price point to other 30" monitors. If that was done it would be clear that this monitor does not fit well anywhere in the market of 30" monitors.
Just bellow it, in performance, is HP ZR30 w which is can be acquired for $1100-1200 (for half the price) and performs very closely to this NEC.
As result the only consumers that might consider this monitor for whom the price is not the option, but then there are monitors in 5K range that perform even better than this one.
Also from the gamer perspective, which I speculate is the biggest audience here, ZR30w probably will be a better choice, because NEC, most likely, will not perform as well on response time as ZR30w since NEC has OSD (and that slows down response time as described in recent dell 30" monitor review.) This is a speculation and we need to wait for the results for response time to be posted.
Finally, I got an impression from this article that being big and heavy is a good thing (unfortunately I do not think phrase form Snatch "If it does not work, you can hit with it" would apply here.) Even the title of the article emphasizes that. This big and heavy quality of the monitor is defensibly a drawback, especially when it is 20lb heavier than other 30" monitors.
Conclusion that I came to from this article is that this monitor is nothing to be excited about, and is not a good buy for any consumer/prosumer segment. Performance benefits, and extra features that this NEC monitor has do not justify a $1000 premium.
strikeback03 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
It is a product marketed at a professional audience, with a price and some features to match. Many people have been wondering how the "cheap" 30" displays compare to some of the options targeted at professionals, now they have a comparison. Yes, gamers are better off buying a cheaper one.erple2 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
I got the gist not that being big and heavy was a good thing, but that it wasn't a bad thing.bossanova808 - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
If the colour accuracy stuff in this review had been done properly, then you would have seen the NEC way out in front of the HP and, for the target market, that's pretty important. Not saying the HP doesn't make sense for gamers, but for the pro image makers that NEC are targetting, the PA30 is a spectacular device from a performance/price point of view when compared to it's real competition which is the CG303W from Eizo (and that's about it).8steve8 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
no LED illumination = no buybossanova808 - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
A disaster from a colour accuracy persepctive, hence no LED as it's not appropriat for the target market - same as EIzo don't do LED monitors.Soldier1969 - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
with these days of half inch thick led panels this thing looks like something from 6 or 7 years ago. $2300 not thanks. Im just fine with my 30" HP ZR30w super ips panel you last reviewed. Works great and im still in awe of it with gaming and daily use. $1200 much better spent.lemonadesoda - Wednesday, March 2, 2011 - link
Yes, this is a nice 2560x1600 30"er.But where is the innovation? Where are the higher pixel density displays. Those that want 2560x1600 displays but in a more manageable 24" or 27" format?
And what about ultra-hi resolution like 3840x2160 in 27"? Allowing you to read documents/PDFs in near-print DPI quality. Why is no-one making these?. the panels ARE available! http://www.chimei-innolux.com/opencms/cmo/products...
tzhu07 - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
I currently own the NEC PA271W, the little brother to this monitor. I kind of prefer the 271 over the 301 because it has a finer dot pitch, therefore I don't have to move my head around as much. You do lose 160 horizontal lines, but it's really not too much of a big deal. It's the best monitor I've used so far.Those with poorer eye sight though should get the 301.
Beka - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
Does this nec screen have a good scaler like the dell?Being able to play at lower resolution while having games that still look good is great feature of the dell.
AceHoleGoober - Thursday, March 3, 2011 - link
$2,000+ LCD and it is not 120hz? Not worth the money despite the other features.ganeshts - Saturday, March 5, 2011 - link
Brian,Thanks a lot for adding the custom refresh rates testing results.
They look promising, and I assume the OSD for the refresh rate is only accurate to 1 decimal place. So, 29.97 gets rounded up to 30, 23.976 to 24, but 59.94 is only 59.9 :)
It will be interesting to see whether these refresh rates are supported in any of the cheaper LCD models.
How does the display treat video content? Particularly, how is the display of interlaced content at native and non-native refresh rates. It is quite interesting to me, but I would also like to know whether any of the other readers think it is an aspect worth reporting on.
anonapon - Sunday, March 6, 2011 - link
Like ganeshts, I, too, am very interested in how it does with video, but only a little in how it does with interlaced content. Mostly, I'm interested in how it would compare to a high-end HDTV when playing high definition progressive media, such as a standard Blu-ray movie.I'm trying to put a new system together which can function as both a workstation and HTPC (and gaming rig, but I'm not as concerned with color quality there), and the extra pixels of a 2560 x 1600 display would be very valuable to me when I'm using the system as a workstation, but I'm also looking for great video playback, and if I could find one device which could provide both, I would gladly pay the price premium for an NEC or Ezio over the HP or Dell 30", as it would be saving me from using an actual HDTV and sacrificing much workspace.
My personal reference points are the Sony HX909 and Panasonic VT-25, because those are the ones I am familiar with from when I was looking into HDTVs (at which point I could hear a tiny voice shouting "Pixels! Pixels!"), but information relating to the NEC or Ezio (or HP or Dell) to any TV would be helpful because I could then compare that TV to the ones I know.
If there is a review of the Ezio 30", I'd really appreciate it if some information about video playback was included. I assume, with all of the attention to color accuracy of the NEC and Ezio, that their performance is very good, equal or close to that of a high-end HDTV, but I'd rather not assume.
bleucharm28 - Thursday, March 10, 2011 - link
$2299 wowMattShan - Friday, March 11, 2011 - link
Thanks for this test of a high-end display. Even if one is not in the market for a pro-caliber device, it is very useful to see how consumer-/prosumer-level devices compare to it.I just heard today from a reputable source that EIZO plans to eventually replace its 30-inch 2560x1600 monitors with 27-inch 2560x1440 models, which feature nearly the same resolution in a more compact (and much lighter weight) package. 30-inchers are simply too big and massive for most people and require moving one's head side to side too much; 27 inches should be a better overall solution for most. AnandTech already has tested the two 27-inch monitors by Dell and Apple. Can you please test NEC's 2560x1440 entry in this blossoming market segment, the PA271W? It has received positive reviews from others, but your methodology is more rigorous and needs to be applied to this model. EIZO also has two 27-inch 2560x1440 models being released this month, the FlexScan SX2762W and ColorEdge CG275W; a joint test of those two models also would be great. It will be interesting to see which is best--NEC or EIZO (or maybe Dell).
ycoty - Monday, March 14, 2011 - link
Hi,Can someone tell me if its possible to use this display with a 13"macbook pro july 2009.
Thank you
aislepathlight - Wednesday, April 6, 2011 - link
Hey allI was pondering the 27 inch version of this display. Would the review for this apply, in most part, to that screen?
Thanks!
Klaipedietis - Friday, April 8, 2011 - link
Helloi just bought it, and noticed a pretty significant backlight bleeding, starting from TOP MIddle to right top corner , and noticed the exact same one bleeding is in one of pictures of yours
at NEC PA301w Viewing Angle Gallery in the very first black screen picture
just wandering if all units got the same issue about BLB ??
State of the Art Monitor - Saturday, May 7, 2011 - link
For those who are in the cost no object SOTA game, video and computer users:http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-monitors/cat-visu...
Maybe AnandTech could get one from Sony for a test run?
prime2515103 - Friday, May 27, 2011 - link
Is there a particular reason you don't find LED backlighting in high-end displays? Is there a downside to LED that I missed?Thanks
babeliak - Monday, October 22, 2012 - link
My PA301W unit is WHINING, WHAT a BAD LUCK! :(babeliak - Monday, October 22, 2012 - link
it is very annoying, because I have quiet working environment, S*H*I*T !