The demos today were on 2.1 I believe, however HP's site makes reference to 3.0/2.2 (although technically doesn't commit to shipping with those versions as anything could happen between now and Summer). I've removed the version numbers for now until HP officially commits to something.
Btw, how does the displays on the new devices stack up against others? No one is writing which technology is used (presumably because HP hasn't told anyone yet) or even how good they are.
I can't believe HP ditched the best part about the Pixi - its slim and sturdy form factor - while keeping the worst part about it - the 2.6" 320x400 screen. Why would anyone get this over a Pre 2?
Depends on what you mean by performance. Certainly it may benchmark higher but I think there are inherent advantages of dual-core (one process not lagging another) that aren't tangible in graphs.
I think today's 1GHz CPU's are plenty to handle most if not all single-threaded tasks. I'm not sure how noticeable a bump to 1.4GHz would be.
Of course, compared to what Palm had before, this will be lightyears ahead.
Very true. One of the biggest benefits of a multi-core architecture is making up for inefficiencies in any software scheduling algorithms. If a process is incorrectly over scheduled on a single core, the UI thread or other processes may starve. On a dual-core platform, they simply continue executing on the idle core.
Still unhappy about the screen size. The Xoom is the only thing that's coming close to a standard sheet of american paper (8.5 x 11) . All other manufacturers seem to want to go smaller.
If this is going to be used in conjunction with a smartphone/PDA device, then I'm going to want it to be a little bigger. If they just removed the "grip" edges and made the whole thing a screen, i'd be happy.
whats an american size piece of paper tablet going to serve? except give you the dimensions you need. I mean is it really going to matter that few more inches?
It's a multimedia device with the capability of zooming in and out. Its much more portable as well. Im sure eventually companies will have smaller and larger tablets even if some are relunctant to admit it.
you still have a notebook right?
by the way if the whole thing was a screen, how you going to hold it without causing the screen to react unless it only reacts to a stylus like a wacom tablet ;)
The Pre 3 looks great! Finally something to replace my Pre. It's exactly what I want. Just a tad bit larger without being a brick and a little bit more under the hood. Is the Pre 3 going to have 4g? In the slide it says "world phone" and mentions HSPA+ and EVDO. Is the phone going to have both standards or just two versions? It would be nice to have both in one phone just in case you needed to travel to an area that had another standard.
I really have a lot more questions. Are you guys planning a full review just like you gave for the LG Optimus 2X? Please? :)
The Pre 3 is scheduled to be launched sometime this Summer. We'll definitely have a detailed review of the Pre 3 once we gets our hands on one! :) You should expect a review of the Veer before that though.
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NitroTwiek - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
webOS 3.0 in the table? And somehow, Apple's conversion of 730g to imperial units ends up being 0.1 lbs lighter?Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
sorry! fixed!Take care,
Anand
fabarati - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
What? The pre 3 and veer are WebOS 2.2 and the touchpad is WebOS 3.0http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/hps-touchpad-sh...
Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
The demos today were on 2.1 I believe, however HP's site makes reference to 3.0/2.2 (although technically doesn't commit to shipping with those versions as anything could happen between now and Summer). I've removed the version numbers for now until HP officially commits to something.Take care,
Anand
fabarati - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Oh, I see. Never mind, then.Btw, how does the displays on the new devices stack up against others? No one is writing which technology is used (presumably because HP hasn't told anyone yet) or even how good they are.
NitroTwiek - Thursday, February 10, 2011 - link
NP... Just glad to see these go up so fast :)ViperV990 - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
I can't believe HP ditched the best part about the Pixi - its slim and sturdy form factor - while keeping the worst part about it - the 2.6" 320x400 screen. Why would anyone get this over a Pre 2?dagamer34 - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
My guess is that the Veer isn't meant to compete with the Pre 2, just be a cheaper version of it.bplewis24 - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Can't wait to see how a 1.4GHz chip performs in comparison to the 1.0GHz Tegra SoC and even the Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual core SoC.Brandon
zorxd - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
indeed, 1.4 GHz single core might perform better than 1GHz dual core in most smartphone applicationsmetafor - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Depends on what you mean by performance. Certainly it may benchmark higher but I think there are inherent advantages of dual-core (one process not lagging another) that aren't tangible in graphs.I think today's 1GHz CPU's are plenty to handle most if not all single-threaded tasks. I'm not sure how noticeable a bump to 1.4GHz would be.
Of course, compared to what Palm had before, this will be lightyears ahead.
Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Very true. One of the biggest benefits of a multi-core architecture is making up for inefficiencies in any software scheduling algorithms. If a process is incorrectly over scheduled on a single core, the UI thread or other processes may starve. On a dual-core platform, they simply continue executing on the idle core.Take care,
Anand
tviceman - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
I have to admit I'm a little disappointed to see HP not adopting Tegra 2, but I'm hooked on webOS so I really hope Pre3 comes to sprint.sprockkets - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Didn't HP get the memo that chicklet keyboards were so 2003? At least the tablet has some promise to it with their good OS.memoroid - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Until HP releases the price details, IMO, it doesn't deserve a comparisonConficio - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
"touch the Touc?Pad".Thanks for being to simely with this info!
Conficio - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Thanks for being to *timely* with this info!austonia - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
iOS, Android, BB OS, WebOS are all on phones & tablets now. where does that leave WP7..? unfortunately named.kmmatney - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
I think Microsoft is still trying to shove Windows 7 onto tabletsConficio - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
I'm missing any mention of GPS capability. Does it not have it?CharonPDX - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
The slide says "Gesture area". What exactly does that mean?tipoo - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
It has both. A gesture area at the bottom and a touch screen.vol7ron - Wednesday, February 9, 2011 - link
Still unhappy about the screen size. The Xoom is the only thing that's coming close to a standard sheet of american paper (8.5 x 11) . All other manufacturers seem to want to go smaller.If this is going to be used in conjunction with a smartphone/PDA device, then I'm going to want it to be a little bigger. If they just removed the "grip" edges and made the whole thing a screen, i'd be happy.
Zensen - Saturday, February 12, 2011 - link
whats an american size piece of paper tablet going to serve? except give you the dimensions you need. I mean is it really going to matter that few more inches?It's a multimedia device with the capability of zooming in and out. Its much more portable as well. Im sure eventually companies will have smaller and larger tablets even if some are relunctant to admit it.
you still have a notebook right?
by the way if the whole thing was a screen, how you going to hold it without causing the screen to react unless it only reacts to a stylus like a wacom tablet ;)
bigboxes - Thursday, February 10, 2011 - link
The Pre 3 looks great! Finally something to replace my Pre. It's exactly what I want. Just a tad bit larger without being a brick and a little bit more under the hood. Is the Pre 3 going to have 4g? In the slide it says "world phone" and mentions HSPA+ and EVDO. Is the phone going to have both standards or just two versions? It would be nice to have both in one phone just in case you needed to travel to an area that had another standard.I really have a lot more questions. Are you guys planning a full review just like you gave for the LG Optimus 2X? Please? :)
mythun.chandra - Thursday, February 10, 2011 - link
The Pre 3 is scheduled to be launched sometime this Summer. We'll definitely have a detailed review of the Pre 3 once we gets our hands on one! :) You should expect a review of the Veer before that though.