I think that SSDs should have a new style of interface based of pci express lanes.
They should be able to plug straight into the motherboard with a single powered connector (possibly like mini-PCIe where it lies flat I suppose but have cable support for larger drives).
Maybe have 8-16 lanes fed to a controller chip with configurable lanes between each port say up to a maxmimum of 4 (for now).
So... Why isn't anyone using fiber optics in computers yet? Intel has talked about it, ISP's are using it. Everyone knows its faster than anything out now and in a computer the length of cables doesn't need to be very long.
Optical networking is still too expensive for the consumer market. Eg the cheapest gigabit PCIe fiber card on newegg is $200. Intel's described research that should lead to making optical connections on silicon significantly cheaper. Hopefully that will play out in the next few years; but it's not here yet.
Why do you need it though? We have 100GbE now over copper that is in the making. And 10GbE over copper is standard. Converting that to fiber in the switch or media converter is no problem. You can of course terminate directly into a computer if you like, but if your not running it as a router it's pointless. You use fiber optics for high-speed links or uplink/trunks in your networks and for long distances. Besides it's already used in data centers with fibre channel. Do the end user need to terminate to anything more then 1Gb ethernet over copper or multiple 1GbE? Or 10GbE over copper (or multiple bonded/trunked). Nope not even the servers need that. Well maybe if you need more then 4x10GbE in one server. But for access to the SAN there's a separate fibre channel card connected to a fibre channel switch with fiber optics. No reason to replace the Ethernet copper connection in the computer/server. Unless you need a length kilometers of cable and then fiber optics have always been the choice. Since long distances is rarely needed it don't make any sense to have fiber optics everywhere. OP actually nails it, the cables don't need to be long. If you can do 100GbE over 10 m of cable that's enough. 10 GbE handles the same distance as 1 GbE, 100 meters. Do you really need fiber optics the last meters? No. And for home use I think you prefer that you can use a cheap ethernet switch or router even if you have FTTH. It's not like it would go any faster.
intel is surely making progress on lightpeak, and it will eventually be cheap enough to make it into PCs. this is way, way future, and by the time they figure it out, or at least at some point in the future, it may be necessary for something, hey. also, i think it's really interesting to see what comes out of running fiber in PCs beacuse it's something new and you never know what advantages may come of it. like how toslink cables have the pleasant side-effect of relieving horrible ground hiss in audio signals out of some PCs. not saying that we NEED fiber in our computers, but most gadget or tech hobbyists are not really concerned with what we need. It's more of a "wow look at that, that's cool" kind of thing.
Well this kind of things are driven by the professional side, and audio has gone back to copper with HDMI and DisplayPort any way. And S/PDIF over RCA isn't bad. You still have timing errors over toslink too.
We don't really use fiber because it's faster we use it because it's more practical. For connecting cities and countries that is. Intel has demonstrated you could even use it inside computers, but they also no they don't need it.
Lightpeak might be practical, but that's just one use of fiber optics. That don't mean we will rip out are CAT6 cables and use it for ethernet. Just means it will be used for some high-performance and consumer devices. How it advances in the data centers is something fully other thing though. It will be other standards there.
I cannot wait for the price drop in SSD's. I also love newegg and they are far more reliable than Amazon. Amazon is a great place for buying text books, toiletries, and clothes and prepaid phone. newegg is wher eI go for computers and other hardware. I bought a microwave off newegg that less expensive than the same product on amazon. It depends ont he item largely. I am also looking forward to Sandy bridge copmputer on newegg. I plan on buying soon.
News Flash! Corsair finally understands airflow! Only takes them three years! Finally an obsidian that's not a hotbox. The new 650D is sporting fully removable drive cages, 200mm in and out even vented card slots. Looks like they took many features right off the HAF 912 Advanced, but that's fine add some Corsair style and elegance and I am in baby! Wonder if it will feature the new "Corsair Link". Man I love those huge rubber grommets! How many days till April?
Has Corsair released any specs on the mechanical keyboard? Does it use some flavor of Cherry MX switch? Alps maybe? Also, does it support NKey rollover with PS/2 or 6Key rollover withUSB?
What´s the point to go to a show and not disclose your products?
My computer was recently stolen and they took away my Stacker 832 case. I was looking for a replacement but I was not convinced with the current models. If I see the Cosmos S, their front interior looks similar to the stacker. I am hoping that the next high end case will be like the HAF X internally, but full aluminium. It´s said that a new case design is very expensive to put on production, so I expect a lot of reuse.
Now I lost the opportunity to know if I must wait or not.
I have a Stacker 830 Special Edition Black Full Aluminum, in perfect condition that I am going to sell. The 830 SE has the mesh panel on the floor and the SSD module with blue LEDs in the top mesh panel, very cool. Let me know if you want it. Yeah I think a new case design is very costly to implement. Bruce
You can get more people to see a demo behind closed doors at a big show than if you wait several months and then do something where they have to spend extra money just to fly out and get a hotel room. Some vendors do this every year. There're even vendors who don't join the show, but instead rent space in neighboring hotels and invite journalists in to see what they can't afford to demo at the big show.
Because they will say something *when the nda expires*, and doing it this way is cheaper, provided that there aren't any major changes between now and release.
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flurazepam - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
Would be nice to see a windowed panel option (i.e. post purchase) for the existing Corsair 600T cases.Corsair Tech Marketing - Friday, January 14, 2011 - link
Those will be available soon...Meaker10 - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
I think that SSDs should have a new style of interface based of pci express lanes.They should be able to plug straight into the motherboard with a single powered connector (possibly like mini-PCIe where it lies flat I suppose but have cable support for larger drives).
Maybe have 8-16 lanes fed to a controller chip with configurable lanes between each port say up to a maxmimum of 4 (for now).
Hrel - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
So... Why isn't anyone using fiber optics in computers yet? Intel has talked about it, ISP's are using it. Everyone knows its faster than anything out now and in a computer the length of cables doesn't need to be very long.Get on it industry.
DanNeely - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
Optical networking is still too expensive for the consumer market. Eg the cheapest gigabit PCIe fiber card on newegg is $200. Intel's described research that should lead to making optical connections on silicon significantly cheaper. Hopefully that will play out in the next few years; but it's not here yet.Penti - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
Why do you need it though? We have 100GbE now over copper that is in the making. And 10GbE over copper is standard. Converting that to fiber in the switch or media converter is no problem. You can of course terminate directly into a computer if you like, but if your not running it as a router it's pointless. You use fiber optics for high-speed links or uplink/trunks in your networks and for long distances. Besides it's already used in data centers with fibre channel. Do the end user need to terminate to anything more then 1Gb ethernet over copper or multiple 1GbE? Or 10GbE over copper (or multiple bonded/trunked). Nope not even the servers need that. Well maybe if you need more then 4x10GbE in one server. But for access to the SAN there's a separate fibre channel card connected to a fibre channel switch with fiber optics. No reason to replace the Ethernet copper connection in the computer/server. Unless you need a length kilometers of cable and then fiber optics have always been the choice. Since long distances is rarely needed it don't make any sense to have fiber optics everywhere. OP actually nails it, the cables don't need to be long. If you can do 100GbE over 10 m of cable that's enough. 10 GbE handles the same distance as 1 GbE, 100 meters. Do you really need fiber optics the last meters? No. And for home use I think you prefer that you can use a cheap ethernet switch or router even if you have FTTH. It's not like it would go any faster.softdrinkviking - Saturday, January 8, 2011 - link
intel is surely making progress on lightpeak, and it will eventually be cheap enough to make it into PCs.this is way, way future, and by the time they figure it out, or at least at some point in the future, it may be necessary for something, hey.
also, i think it's really interesting to see what comes out of running fiber in PCs beacuse it's something new and you never know what advantages may come of it.
like how toslink cables have the pleasant side-effect of relieving horrible ground hiss in audio signals out of some PCs.
not saying that we NEED fiber in our computers, but most gadget or tech hobbyists are not really concerned with what we need. It's more of a "wow look at that, that's cool" kind of thing.
Penti - Monday, January 10, 2011 - link
Well this kind of things are driven by the professional side, and audio has gone back to copper with HDMI and DisplayPort any way. And S/PDIF over RCA isn't bad. You still have timing errors over toslink too.We don't really use fiber because it's faster we use it because it's more practical. For connecting cities and countries that is. Intel has demonstrated you could even use it inside computers, but they also no they don't need it.
Lightpeak might be practical, but that's just one use of fiber optics. That don't mean we will rip out are CAT6 cables and use it for ethernet. Just means it will be used for some high-performance and consumer devices. How it advances in the data centers is something fully other thing though. It will be other standards there.
semo - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
Any word on current memory fabrication? I remember Samsung was talking about 2xnm node RAM that was supposed to work at 1.35V.BathroomFeeling - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
Any word as to what that super secret Coolermaster thing "worth waiting for" is?adonn78 - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
I cannot wait for the price drop in SSD's. I also love newegg and they are far more reliable than Amazon. Amazon is a great place for buying text books, toiletries, and clothes and prepaid phone. newegg is wher eI go for computers and other hardware. I bought a microwave off newegg that less expensive than the same product on amazon. It depends ont he item largely. I am also looking forward to Sandy bridge copmputer on newegg. I plan on buying soon.MeanBruce - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
News Flash! Corsair finally understands airflow! Only takes them three years! Finally an obsidian that's not a hotbox. The new 650D is sporting fully removable drive cages, 200mm in and out even vented card slots. Looks like they took many features right off the HAF 912 Advanced, but that's fine add some Corsair style and elegance and I am in baby! Wonder if it will feature the new "Corsair Link". Man I love those huge rubber grommets! How many days till April?Mr Perfect - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
Has Corsair released any specs on the mechanical keyboard? Does it use some flavor of Cherry MX switch? Alps maybe? Also, does it support NKey rollover with PS/2 or 6Key rollover withUSB?GNva - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
What´s the point to go to a show and not disclose your products?My computer was recently stolen and they took away my Stacker 832 case. I was looking for a replacement but I was not convinced with the current models. If I see the Cosmos S, their front interior looks similar to the stacker. I am hoping that the next high end case will be like the HAF X internally, but full aluminium. It´s said that a new case design is very expensive to put on production, so I expect a lot of reuse.
Now I lost the opportunity to know if I must wait or not.
MeanBruce - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
I have a Stacker 830 Special Edition Black Full Aluminum, in perfect condition that I am going to sell. The 830 SE has the mesh panel on the floor and the SSD module with blue LEDs in the top mesh panel, very cool. Let me know if you want it. Yeah I think a new case design is very costly to implement. BruceDanNeely - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
You can get more people to see a demo behind closed doors at a big show than if you wait several months and then do something where they have to spend extra money just to fly out and get a hotel room. Some vendors do this every year. There're even vendors who don't join the show, but instead rent space in neighboring hotels and invite journalists in to see what they can't afford to demo at the big show.GNva - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
Interesting. Now, why invite journalists if they won't allow them to say anything?For all we know, they are talking about sliced bread.
DanNeely - Saturday, January 8, 2011 - link
Because they will say something *when the nda expires*, and doing it this way is cheaper, provided that there aren't any major changes between now and release.ClagMaster - Friday, January 7, 2011 - link
SATA 6G does not have enough bandwidth?How much is really enough for non-industrial, consumer applications ?
Loading Vista or Windows 7 at SATA 6G speeds is lightening fast.
Nentor - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Thanks for that (I had to look it up).