There really couldn't be a better time for the two major GPU manufacturers to start over from the ground up. Just take a year off to restart everything, from their pricing models to their product roadmaps, and just keep the current products in production in the meantime. It's not like gamers have a bunch of amazing new FPS games coming out any month now that will demand a new generation of GPUs (as compared with last Fall when that was essentially the case).
Great time to start over, guys. Take advantage of it.
"The source of #1 has a lot to do with their current product situation: The new GTX 2xx series is not selling as well or for as much as anyone predicted. "
That and $400+ GPUs will always be the laughing stock of most consumers. If they really wanted to have another great quarter, all they had to do was release them at price points that would attract more buyers. NVidia are the only ones to blame when they set the prices so high it only attracts the fools and the people with too much money to spend.
Quit your fucking whining about the Linux article. Go to a website that focuses on Linux if that's what interests you or just shut up about it! You keep posting in a comments section that's completely different from that topic. Are you gonna start stalking and threatening the writers from Anand if they don't post your article?
Here's a start, see how hard it was to type Linux on Google.com? To narrow down your search you could even try "Ubuntu Linux" in the search box and then you'll get something even closer to what you're looking for!
The whole business about Rambus and Jedec is a classic "big lie"
The facts are that Rambus invented and patented it's core technology years before joining Jedec. While US patent APPLICATIONS were, at the time, secret, Rambus also applied for a European patent which was published by the EPO (and which was word-for-word identical to the US patent). Thirty major memory makers signed non-Disclosure and were TAUGHT about what Rambus had invented by Rambus. Internal documents from the memory makers show that they knew and understood the significance of Rambus' developments and that their products likely would infringe Rambus' patents. Rambus tried to present it's technology to Jedec for adoption as a Jedec standard and is the only member in the history of Jedec to be denied permission to make a presentation ... THREE TIMES. THERE WAS NO "DECEPTION" AT JEDEC.
The facts, if you dig down below the lies that far too many believe, are that Rambus invented (starting in 1989) inventions without which NO form of memory since SDRAM (1996) can be built. They have over 900 patents issued and/or applied for, that will cover all forms of semiconductor memory now known or contemplated through the year 2021. The FACT is the the major memory industry players (Including AT LEAST Infineon (now Quimonda), Micron, Samsung, Hynix) CONSPIRED to both steal Rambus' patents without paying for them AND to attempt to put Rambus out of business.
Again, I ask you, what choice does Rambus have other than to sue?
Yet, Rambus is NOT a "highly litigious" company, they have only filed 4 patent infringement lawsuits in their entire nearly 20-year existence (and one anti-trust lawsuit). Many of the cases now in court were filed not by Rambus but against Rambus (including the Hynix and Micron cases now in process).
But the simple fact is, to suggest that Rambus should not bring litigation is to suggest that someone who has been continuously robbed on a daily basis since 1996, and who is still, to this day, being robbed every single day, should do nothing and not use the courts or law enforcement to get the thieves to stop and, indeed, to pay for what they have already stolen.
When the facts are looked at in detail (which takes about a 4-week trial) ... as they have been on 4 different occasions by the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, by Chief FTC Administrative Law Judge McGuire (in the longest trial in FTC history), by the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and by a jury in the Hynix case, it is always found that Rambus is simply not guilty of any wrong doing. Yes, a corrupt US Federal Judge and an out of control Federal Trade Commission motivated by politics rather than the law did find otherwise. Both were overturned on appeal to two different higher courts.
AMD will post losses far greater than $200 million this quarter. The net loss will probably be over $1 billion in Q2.
Last quarter AMD lost $358 million in Q1 and the outlook for Q2 was "seasonally down", which would normally signal losses in the $400-$500 million range. However, AMD is expected to take an $880 million goodwill impairment charge this quarter for part of the ATI business (chips for digital TVs, handhelds, etc.). Add another $32 million for restructuring charges related to layoffs.
AMD will get a one-time $190 million bump from the sales of old 200mm equipment, but that doesn't go far to offset the big ATI-related writeoff.
Apparently the comments section doesn't like long links. The link above was supposed to go to AMD's latest Form 8-K which can be found here at the top of the list:
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RobertAlvarez - Sunday, July 13, 2008 - link
Sorry for posting this here, but you have not responded to the posts on the Linux thread. Are you going to do the Ubuntu review? Thanks.Kode - Sunday, July 13, 2008 - link
He answered that 1 day ago in this same topic:quote:I encountered some issues unrelated to Ubuntu. 2 weeks at the most, hopefully it will be much sooner.
yacoub - Sunday, July 13, 2008 - link
There really couldn't be a better time for the two major GPU manufacturers to start over from the ground up. Just take a year off to restart everything, from their pricing models to their product roadmaps, and just keep the current products in production in the meantime. It's not like gamers have a bunch of amazing new FPS games coming out any month now that will demand a new generation of GPUs (as compared with last Fall when that was essentially the case).Great time to start over, guys. Take advantage of it.
yacoub - Sunday, July 13, 2008 - link
"The source of #1 has a lot to do with their current product situation: The new GTX 2xx series is not selling as well or for as much as anyone predicted. "That and $400+ GPUs will always be the laughing stock of most consumers. If they really wanted to have another great quarter, all they had to do was release them at price points that would attract more buyers. NVidia are the only ones to blame when they set the prices so high it only attracts the fools and the people with too much money to spend.
Eri Hyva - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
Is Bill paying your bills?Ryan Smith: "will have an article up in early May." 8) :(
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=43...">http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=43...
Mr Roboto - Sunday, July 13, 2008 - link
Quit your fucking whining about the Linux article. Go to a website that focuses on Linux if that's what interests you or just shut up about it! You keep posting in a comments section that's completely different from that topic. Are you gonna start stalking and threatening the writers from Anand if they don't post your article?Here's a start, see how hard it was to type Linux on Google.com? To narrow down your search you could even try "Ubuntu Linux" in the search box and then you'll get something even closer to what you're looking for!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+linux&am...">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+linux&am...
Ryan Smith - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
I encountered some issues unrelated to Ubuntu. 2 weeks at the most, hopefully it will be much sooner.ElFindo - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
Shhh. Or get a new slogan. "Yougotto review Ubuntu!"Watzman - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
The whole business about Rambus and Jedec is a classic "big lie"The facts are that Rambus invented and patented it's core technology years before joining Jedec. While US patent APPLICATIONS were, at the time, secret, Rambus also applied for a European patent which was published by the EPO (and which was word-for-word identical to the US patent). Thirty major memory makers signed non-Disclosure and were TAUGHT about what Rambus had invented by Rambus. Internal documents from the memory makers show that they knew and understood the significance of Rambus' developments and that their products likely would infringe Rambus' patents. Rambus tried to present it's technology to Jedec for adoption as a Jedec standard and is the only member in the history of Jedec to be denied permission to make a presentation ... THREE TIMES. THERE WAS NO "DECEPTION" AT JEDEC.
The facts, if you dig down below the lies that far too many believe, are that Rambus invented (starting in 1989) inventions without which NO form of memory since SDRAM (1996) can be built. They have over 900 patents issued and/or applied for, that will cover all forms of semiconductor memory now known or contemplated through the year 2021. The FACT is the the major memory industry players (Including AT LEAST Infineon (now Quimonda), Micron, Samsung, Hynix) CONSPIRED to both steal Rambus' patents without paying for them AND to attempt to put Rambus out of business.
Again, I ask you, what choice does Rambus have other than to sue?
Yet, Rambus is NOT a "highly litigious" company, they have only filed 4 patent infringement lawsuits in their entire nearly 20-year existence (and one anti-trust lawsuit). Many of the cases now in court were filed not by Rambus but against Rambus (including the Hynix and Micron cases now in process).
But the simple fact is, to suggest that Rambus should not bring litigation is to suggest that someone who has been continuously robbed on a daily basis since 1996, and who is still, to this day, being robbed every single day, should do nothing and not use the courts or law enforcement to get the thieves to stop and, indeed, to pay for what they have already stolen.
When the facts are looked at in detail (which takes about a 4-week trial) ... as they have been on 4 different occasions by the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, by Chief FTC Administrative Law Judge McGuire (in the longest trial in FTC history), by the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and by a jury in the Hynix case, it is always found that Rambus is simply not guilty of any wrong doing. Yes, a corrupt US Federal Judge and an out of control Federal Trade Commission motivated by politics rather than the law did find otherwise. Both were overturned on appeal to two different higher courts.
HotdogIT - Saturday, July 12, 2008 - link
Watzman+Rambus+Google=fun links.leexgx - Saturday, July 12, 2008 - link
rambus just need to go awayZoos - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
It isn't quite as black and white as you've put it. In any case you might wish to disclose your relationship with Rambus, Barry.eRacer - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
AMD will post losses far greater than $200 million this quarter. The net loss will probably be over $1 billion in Q2.Last quarter AMD lost $358 million in Q1 and the outlook for Q2 was "seasonally down", which would normally signal losses in the $400-$500 million range. However, AMD is expected to take an $880 million goodwill impairment charge this quarter for part of the ATI business (chips for digital TVs, handhelds, etc.). Add another $32 million for restructuring charges related to layoffs.
AMD will get a one-time $190 million bump from the sales of old 200mm equipment, but that doesn't go far to offset the big ATI-related writeoff.
http://amd.edgarpro.com/redirect_frames.asp?filena...">http://amd.edgarpro.com/redirect_frames...00011931...\2008\07\11\&cols=7%2C0%2C4&SortBy=receivedate&AD=D&startrec=1&res=25&pdf=0
eRacer - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
Apparently the comments section doesn't like long links. The link above was supposed to go to AMD's latest Form 8-K which can be found here at the top of the list:http://amd.edgarpro.com/Results.asp?criteria=ticke...">http://amd.edgarpro.com/Results.asp?cri...p;ticker...
Jellodyne - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
Reading comprehension FTL... I swaer my eyes glided right over that paragraph...Jellodyne - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
Maybe it was implied?http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/0...">http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/0...
Pythias - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
Gotta love the Inquirer for citing themselves as a source. "Its true because we say so!".Mafiacrime - Friday, July 11, 2008 - link
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