I'm currently running my Mushkin 2x1gb ddr2 800 sticks @ 5-5-5-15, 1.95v, and 1200Mhz without a hiccup. Stock voltage is 1.8v. I realize 2x2gb sticks require more vDimm to run @ posted speeds, but if all you are doing is going to 4gb total, then why not go with 4 x 1gb if they can be overclocked with better results? Oh, and btw, my e4400, 3.2 Ghz (8 x 400) posts a 7600 bandwidth in Sandra XI. Suweeet!
Them heatspreaders is ree-dic-a-luss. I'm not a PC guru by any means, but I've used expensive RAM with tight timings and cheap RAM with loose timings. Truthfully I never saw much (if any) difference in performance. I mean, sure you might see a few points in Everest, Sandra, or 3DMark, but WHO CARES. I sure don't.
This kit seems like a good candidate for a 400MHz FSB, 5:4 DDR-1000, tRD5, tCL4 X48 board at nominal vDDR. Do you have any data for these modules at CAS4 DDR-1000?
In the hot deals forum there's a DDR3-1333 kit available for $185. Leave it to OCZ to squeeze every last drop of performance out of DDR2 about the time everyone else starts focusing on the next big thing.
But can that DDR3-1333 result come anywhere near the OCZ DDR2 timings? (Then again, it can probably clock higher than 1333... not that memory bandwidth really matters that much beyond a certain point.)
Seems OCZ has gotten some very high binned PowerChips.
Too bad this kit has stupidly wide heatspreaders that make 8 GB impossible...
I'm not sure if this is possible, but i'd love to see the ICs for all the kits tested in the upcoming 2x2 GB roundup.
I know basically all are PSC, but i'm curious to see how the different PSC ICs do.
There's X (Xxxxxx-AA3G), R (Rxxxxx-AA3G), & T (Txxxxx-LA3G) from what i've seen...do you know how what the default speed bins are for them by any chance?
With DDR3 coming into the future(prices are still too high for many including me), and DDR2 prices falling through the floor, these sticks cost too much, and really do not offer anything that most *reasonable* persons would need.
$170 from the egg, which is the current lowest price I could find(not counting a $30 MiR), these sticks run a premium of $100 over the very good ADATA DDR2 800 5-5-5-18 @ 1.8v sticks. Crucial also has a very good pair of DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 sticks but they require 2.2v for normal operation. The Egg is also out of stock on these, and the price seems to be $109 when in stock.
Personally, I am a die hard Crucial 'fan', however when searching for memory that fit the criteria I had set for my system, the ADATA sticks were the best fit, and at $62 with free delivery (for 2x2GB sticks ! ). . . lets just say I could not pass up such a deal.
The moral of our mini story here ? Hell I do not know . . . save $100 on memory, and put it towards a good GPU where it will really count with games.
Finally! An OCZ kit with good timings/overclockability that doesn't require ridiculous voltages. More often than not, I seem to find OCZ kits with average or mediocre timings, and they also require higher than standard (say, 2.0V - 2.1V) voltages, which really makes me question the quality of the stuff they're using. Especially true of the Vista Upgrade stuff.
This kit, on the other hand, has the qualities I really like to see in RAM.
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Konadreamer - Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - link
I'm currently running my Mushkin 2x1gb ddr2 800 sticks @ 5-5-5-15, 1.95v, and 1200Mhz without a hiccup. Stock voltage is 1.8v. I realize 2x2gb sticks require more vDimm to run @ posted speeds, but if all you are doing is going to 4gb total, then why not go with 4 x 1gb if they can be overclocked with better results? Oh, and btw, my e4400, 3.2 Ghz (8 x 400) posts a 7600 bandwidth in Sandra XI. Suweeet!Lennie - Saturday, May 24, 2008 - link
How come Memset and Everest say DDR3 RAM ??!!!Pez D Spencer - Saturday, May 24, 2008 - link
Them heatspreaders is ree-dic-a-luss. I'm not a PC guru by any means, but I've used expensive RAM with tight timings and cheap RAM with loose timings. Truthfully I never saw much (if any) difference in performance. I mean, sure you might see a few points in Everest, Sandra, or 3DMark, but WHO CARES. I sure don't.TGressus - Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - link
This kit seems like a good candidate for a 400MHz FSB, 5:4 DDR-1000, tRD5, tCL4 X48 board at nominal vDDR. Do you have any data for these modules at CAS4 DDR-1000?n7 - Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - link
You can't do tCL 4 @ DDR2-1000 on PSC 2 GB dimms.Absolutely not going to happen.
This isn't Micron where adding lots of vdimm helps either; extra voltage provides very minimal gains with PowerChips.
You'll get around DDR2-900 CAS 4 at most i'd bet, though it's usually less for most kits.
Generally speaking, scaling for 2x2 GB PSC-based kits goes like this:
4-4-3
5-4-3
5-5-3
5-5-4
5-5-5
Denithor - Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - link
In the hot deals forum there's a DDR3-1333 kit available for $185. Leave it to OCZ to squeeze every last drop of performance out of DDR2 about the time everyone else starts focusing on the next big thing.JarredWalton - Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - link
But can that DDR3-1333 result come anywhere near the OCZ DDR2 timings? (Then again, it can probably clock higher than 1333... not that memory bandwidth really matters that much beyond a certain point.)Loquejr - Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - link
Looks like a lot of effort for not much gain to me, nice write up tho as always =¬]Nickel020 - Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - link
Waht are the 3 different 3 results in Crysis for each game setting/RAM configuration for? Min/Avg/Max?n7 - Monday, May 19, 2008 - link
Seems OCZ has gotten some very high binned PowerChips.Too bad this kit has stupidly wide heatspreaders that make 8 GB impossible...
I'm not sure if this is possible, but i'd love to see the ICs for all the kits tested in the upcoming 2x2 GB roundup.
I know basically all are PSC, but i'm curious to see how the different PSC ICs do.
There's X (Xxxxxx-AA3G), R (Rxxxxx-AA3G), & T (Txxxxx-LA3G) from what i've seen...do you know how what the default speed bins are for them by any chance?
Anyway, looking forward to the full roundup.
yyrkoon - Monday, May 19, 2008 - link
With DDR3 coming into the future(prices are still too high for many including me), and DDR2 prices falling through the floor, these sticks cost too much, and really do not offer anything that most *reasonable* persons would need.$170 from the egg, which is the current lowest price I could find(not counting a $30 MiR), these sticks run a premium of $100 over the very good ADATA DDR2 800 5-5-5-18 @ 1.8v sticks. Crucial also has a very good pair of DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 sticks but they require 2.2v for normal operation. The Egg is also out of stock on these, and the price seems to be $109 when in stock.
Personally, I am a die hard Crucial 'fan', however when searching for memory that fit the criteria I had set for my system, the ADATA sticks were the best fit, and at $62 with free delivery (for 2x2GB sticks ! ). . . lets just say I could not pass up such a deal.
The moral of our mini story here ? Hell I do not know . . . save $100 on memory, and put it towards a good GPU where it will really count with games.
AmberClad - Monday, May 19, 2008 - link
Finally! An OCZ kit with good timings/overclockability that doesn't require ridiculous voltages. More often than not, I seem to find OCZ kits with average or mediocre timings, and they also require higher than standard (say, 2.0V - 2.1V) voltages, which really makes me question the quality of the stuff they're using. Especially true of the Vista Upgrade stuff.This kit, on the other hand, has the qualities I really like to see in RAM.