Just to add what was already mentioned in the article - gaming notebooks in Australia are more affordable than many may realise if you are using salary sacrifice. This is where the cost of the laptop is taken out of your pay prior to tax being calculated - effectively reducing the cost of the laptop by 40%.
In addition you dont have to pay the GST portion so thats another 10%.
So the $4000 laptop now becomes $3636 without the GST - of which you were going to be losing $1454 to the government even if you didn't buy anything. Making the laptop only $2184...god I love our tax laws sometimes :D
Why don't you compare this head to head against a ATI mobility 2600XT? Instead you compare it only to other Nvidia mobile cards, and then tell us it's better than ATI.
Probably because I don't have one to compare it against? I don't even have the 8800M laptop right now - I tried to make it clear that those preliminary results are straight from NVIDIA; I'm waiting for a laptop still.
That said, X2600 XT and 8600 GTS are relatively close in performance on the desktop, and there's no reason placing should change on laptops. Similarly, there's a huge gulf in performance between 8600 GTS / 2600 XT and the 8800 GT, which we should also see on the mobile side.
The 15.4" laptop is the Alienware m15X that's been leaked from Alienware's newest ad campaign. The estimated date of release was supposed to be November 19th, but they didn't get up yesterday.
Alienware announced a new 15.4 and 17" gaming laptop, one with the 8800m, the other an SLI Santa Rosa update for the m9750. Initial news of it broke out on www.notebookreview.com.
quote: we were told the 8800M GTX sitting idle at the Windows desktop consumes 4.7W... While the idle power consumption isn't particularly high, the fact of the matter is that battery life is extremely important for many laptop users, and battery life will still suffer compared to IGP laptop offerings.
what is the idle power consumption of igp like intel?
As it's part of the NB, it's not really possibly to pull out a separate power figure. Generally, the IGP Northbridge chips don't use much more power at idle than the regular non-IGP NB chips, so IGP at idle is almost "free" graphics. I'd guess that total IGP power use at idle is around 1W, maybe.
I like my 8600m GT. Good battery life: 5 hours with 85Whr battery, 1.6GHz c2d, and I've been able to play any game I care for. The Crysis demo was ok if I turned off AA, at 1200x600 and medium settings.
Anyway, I'd been using integrated graphics for 2 years, and a GF3 Ti500 before that, so I'm basically easily pleased with a new higher-end card, especially in a laptop.
you must have had the shadows on low right? i have a 8600m gt and a 2.2ghs c2d (t7500) and even have my GPU/vram overclocked from 475/400 to 625/525 (pretty crazy for a laptop!) and at settings lower than the ones you mentioned i rarely ever get over 20 fps in crysis.
overclocked its juuuust right for Bioshock at 720p with everything on (drops in the low 20's sometimes)
kinda sucks that these 8800m's are about to come out, i just bought my laptop less than a month ago. 8600m gt is a little slower than i would have liked, though overclocking it puts it in a decent sweet spot (UE3 games at 720p). my jaw dropped when i saw how well the gpu overclocks, i went from 3400 in 3dmark 06 to 4400, which is pretty close to the 8700m.
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xantha - Monday, March 17, 2008 - link
Just to add what was already mentioned in the article - gaming notebooks in Australia are more affordable than many may realise if you are using salary sacrifice. This is where the cost of the laptop is taken out of your pay prior to tax being calculated - effectively reducing the cost of the laptop by 40%.In addition you dont have to pay the GST portion so thats another 10%.
So the $4000 laptop now becomes $3636 without the GST - of which you were going to be losing $1454 to the government even if you didn't buy anything. Making the laptop only $2184...god I love our tax laws sometimes :D
Stas - Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - link
More improvements for $4K laptops... Too bad I couldn't care less.SilthDraeth - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - link
Why don't you compare this head to head against a ATI mobility 2600XT? Instead you compare it only to other Nvidia mobile cards, and then tell us it's better than ATI.JarredWalton - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - link
Probably because I don't have one to compare it against? I don't even have the 8800M laptop right now - I tried to make it clear that those preliminary results are straight from NVIDIA; I'm waiting for a laptop still.That said, X2600 XT and 8600 GTS are relatively close in performance on the desktop, and there's no reason placing should change on laptops. Similarly, there's a huge gulf in performance between 8600 GTS / 2600 XT and the 8800 GT, which we should also see on the mobile side.
SilthDraeth - Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - link
Sorry Jared. I went and posted without fully reading the article.Inkjammer - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - link
The 15.4" laptop is the Alienware m15X that's been leaked from Alienware's newest ad campaign. The estimated date of release was supposed to be November 19th, but they didn't get up yesterday.Alienware announced a new 15.4 and 17" gaming laptop, one with the 8800m, the other an SLI Santa Rosa update for the m9750. Initial news of it broke out on www.notebookreview.com.
her34 - Monday, November 19, 2007 - link
what is the idle power consumption of igp like intel?
JarredWalton - Monday, November 19, 2007 - link
As it's part of the NB, it's not really possibly to pull out a separate power figure. Generally, the IGP Northbridge chips don't use much more power at idle than the regular non-IGP NB chips, so IGP at idle is almost "free" graphics. I'd guess that total IGP power use at idle is around 1W, maybe.Lonyo - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - link
Is there any news of new ATi mobile chips? I would assume with the move to 55nm they c ould get reasonable performance in a mobile package.Also, as asked earlier, how do you post a new comment instead of a reply?
fus3d - Saturday, November 24, 2007 - link
ATI probably will release a rv670 mobile equivalent.smn198 - Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - link
Try the “Post comment” link at the top of the comments.GhandiInstinct - Monday, November 19, 2007 - link
Is not DX10 so take that off your list of DX10 games.Pirks - Monday, November 19, 2007 - link
PC version has DX10/Antialiasing option in its video settings, hence it is a DX10 game.crimson117 - Monday, November 19, 2007 - link
Typo on first page:"with per-orders starting shortly"
should be
"with pre-orders starting shortly
gerf - Monday, November 19, 2007 - link
I like my 8600m GT. Good battery life: 5 hours with 85Whr battery, 1.6GHz c2d, and I've been able to play any game I care for. The Crysis demo was ok if I turned off AA, at 1200x600 and medium settings.SilthDraeth - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - link
How do you post your own new comment? Everything looks screwy with the new layout.gerf - Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - link
I posted before the new layout. So I dunno.Anyway, I'd been using integrated graphics for 2 years, and a GF3 Ti500 before that, so I'm basically easily pleased with a new higher-end card, especially in a laptop.
ttnuagadam - Monday, November 19, 2007 - link
you must have had the shadows on low right? i have a 8600m gt and a 2.2ghs c2d (t7500) and even have my GPU/vram overclocked from 475/400 to 625/525 (pretty crazy for a laptop!) and at settings lower than the ones you mentioned i rarely ever get over 20 fps in crysis.overclocked its juuuust right for Bioshock at 720p with everything on (drops in the low 20's sometimes)
kinda sucks that these 8800m's are about to come out, i just bought my laptop less than a month ago. 8600m gt is a little slower than i would have liked, though overclocking it puts it in a decent sweet spot (UE3 games at 720p). my jaw dropped when i saw how well the gpu overclocks, i went from 3400 in 3dmark 06 to 4400, which is pretty close to the 8700m.