Companies pretending that AMD doesn't exist in their comparisons. That's good for AMD. It shows that at least they are better than Intel and Qualcomm here obviously prefers to compare with a company still at 7nm.
Exactly. AMD tested at 45-54W SoC cTDP in their slides. They compared Ryzen 9 AI 300 series at 45-54 W against Qualcomm’s thin and light vendor power specification, which has a 23 W MPC or max power ceiling for the entire device including onboard hardware, display, storage, RAM, and so forth. Therefore, they aren’t even remotely comparable in the way AMD tested unless we are talking a thick and heavy laptop. Instead, accounting for all of this, running the new Ryzen CPUs at a 10-15W cTDP would have been the honest and directly comparable thing to do but we never saw that. On the bright side, AMD’s upper hand against Intel is in no danger for now.
You mean that slide where the blue lines of Intel CPUs are clear to see while the somewhat dark red line for the Ryzen 9 7940HS is almost impossible to see? Or do you mean that ONE slide with the Speedometer test where they decided to test against Ryzen 7 7840HS and not against Ryzen 9? Please.....
I agree. This is already smelling bad, not a single review after half a year of advertising. I think they are afraid of the negative criticism they will receive.
for example would you have wanted Apple to just run a broken OS and software that wasn't ported to M1 so you could say incorrectly "M1 sucks" before the launch date?
You can pre-order. But not a single independent review. All the hands-on regurgitate the exact same stuff (AI, Copilot features). They are keeping it very tight to the chest. Smells fishy.
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yannigr2 - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
Companies pretending that AMD doesn't exist in their comparisons. That's good for AMD. It shows that at least they are better than Intel and Qualcomm here obviously prefers to compare with a company still at 7nm.lemurbutton - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
They're comparing AMD in their slides. Look again.Hifihedgehog - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
Exactly. AMD tested at 45-54W SoC cTDP in their slides. They compared Ryzen 9 AI 300 series at 45-54 W against Qualcomm’s thin and light vendor power specification, which has a 23 W MPC or max power ceiling for the entire device including onboard hardware, display, storage, RAM, and so forth. Therefore, they aren’t even remotely comparable in the way AMD tested unless we are talking a thick and heavy laptop. Instead, accounting for all of this, running the new Ryzen CPUs at a 10-15W cTDP would have been the honest and directly comparable thing to do but we never saw that. On the bright side, AMD’s upper hand against Intel is in no danger for now.yannigr2 - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
They are comparing with Ryzen 7000 not Ryzen AI 300.Dolda2000 - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
In fairness, it would be hard for them to get performance data for that to compare with.yannigr2 - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
You mean that slide where the blue lines of Intel CPUs are clear to see while the somewhat dark red line for the Ryzen 9 7940HS is almost impossible to see? Or do you mean that ONE slide with the Speedometer test where they decided to test against Ryzen 7 7840HS and not against Ryzen 9? Please.....Dante Verizon - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
Smoke and mirrors...Hifihedgehog - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
What are you smoking in front of the mirror?Terry_Craig - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
I agree. This is already smelling bad, not a single review after half a year of advertising. I think they are afraid of the negative criticism they will receive.Alistair - Tuesday, June 4, 2024 - link
I don't think that is a fair way to look at it. They are not just releasing hardware like with AMD or Intel.They have totally new software to get working, which means they need to wait until the last moment.
That is being fair to them.
Alistair - Tuesday, June 4, 2024 - link
for example would you have wanted Apple to just run a broken OS and software that wasn't ported to M1 so you could say incorrectly "M1 sucks" before the launch date?review it when it is a product you can buy
dysonlu - Saturday, June 8, 2024 - link
You can buy them (pre-order).dysonlu - Saturday, June 8, 2024 - link
You can pre-order. But not a single independent review. All the hands-on regurgitate the exact same stuff (AI, Copilot features). They are keeping it very tight to the chest. Smells fishy.