Came here to further agree with this. The Ryzen x900 series has long since been 12-cores parts, with the x950 series being the 16-core ones. How AMD named this 5900 XT instead of 5950 is just pure craziness.
What I'd really like to know is the real business driver behind these chips.
Like:
How old are these CCDs? Are these CCDs that have been stockpiled for EPYCs that finally didn't sell? They are obviously good dies with a full working set of cores: are they just emptying a bin that grew full over time or are they down-binning perfect chips just to get them out of inventory?
Would they actually have TMSC making these CCDs new on a super mature process at minimal number of SKUs because they get a fab-line-going-out-of-business deal but want to avoid getting stuck with too many bins and more than a single SKUs that won't package and sell in the end?
Are these EPYC qualified CCDs, but Zen 3 EPYCs no longer have matching IODs or just won't sell even at rock bottom prices?
So many interesting insights I'd love to know!
And I wonder if these 5800XT will eventually sell at similar prices as a Ryzen 5 9600X or at which point the landfill gate opens up.
Between an i3-N305 and a 5800XT at iso prices, I know where I'd go...
Naming a CPU the same as their own GPU is truly mind boggling. Frankly I don't know how engineers at AMD tolerate working their when marketing butchers everything.
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nandnandnand - Sunday, June 2, 2024 - link
Table is messed up. Lists 5800XT and 5800X as 12-cores.Ryan Smith - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
Fixed. Thanks!ballsystemlord - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
The naming scheme mix-up is laughable. 5900XT is a joke name.nandnandnand - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
It is weird. They should have dropped the X instead, since there's a 5900 non-X.Still a good thing that more chips are being pushed into the market which will drive down AM4 prices.
GeoffreyA - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
New chips on AM4 are good. I wonder how many people are going to get BIOS updates.nfriedly - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
Yeah, agreed. "5950" (non-X) is the obvious name to fit within their existing naming convention. Why are companies so awful at naming things?NextGen_Gamer - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
Came here to further agree with this. The Ryzen x900 series has long since been 12-cores parts, with the x950 series being the 16-core ones. How AMD named this 5900 XT instead of 5950 is just pure craziness.Zoolook13 - Tuesday, June 4, 2024 - link
Mostly because its marketing people involved, they frown on logic.peevee - Tuesday, June 4, 2024 - link
They are overclockable, so X.Could have been 5940X.
abufrejoval - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
What I'd really like to know is the real business driver behind these chips.Like:
How old are these CCDs? Are these CCDs that have been stockpiled for EPYCs that finally didn't sell? They are obviously good dies with a full working set of cores: are they just emptying a bin that grew full over time or are they down-binning perfect chips just to get them out of inventory?
Would they actually have TMSC making these CCDs new on a super mature process at minimal number of SKUs because they get a fab-line-going-out-of-business deal but want to avoid getting stuck with too many bins and more than a single SKUs that won't package and sell in the end?
Are these EPYC qualified CCDs, but Zen 3 EPYCs no longer have matching IODs or just won't sell even at rock bottom prices?
So many interesting insights I'd love to know!
And I wonder if these 5800XT will eventually sell at similar prices as a Ryzen 5 9600X or at which point the landfill gate opens up.
Between an i3-N305 and a 5800XT at iso prices, I know where I'd go...
kn00tcn - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
well the linked 3000 xt series was said to be based on manufacturing improvements, a little more clockspeed at same poweri would have liked a higher clocked 5800x3d
bananaforscale - Monday, June 10, 2024 - link
The age of the CCDs is irrelevant. Unused silicon is quite stable.Samus - Tuesday, June 4, 2024 - link
Naming a CPU the same as their own GPU is truly mind boggling. Frankly I don't know how engineers at AMD tolerate working their when marketing butchers everything.peevee - Tuesday, June 4, 2024 - link
Could not agree more.The brainless marketoids need to be employed in janitorial positions cleaning engineers' offices. Or bringing coffee.
bananaforscale - Monday, June 10, 2024 - link
They didn't. There's no 5800XT GPU. ;)AdditionalPylons - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
There are more digits between 0 and 5. Why not call it for example 5930X/XT?PeachNCream - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
"High-end Performance for Gamers and Creators" Hilariously silly slide titles continue!GeoffreyA - Monday, June 3, 2024 - link
Who needs comedy when we've got the world of tech :)