While reading the article, it doesn't feel right to refer to multiple die as dice instead of dies. Is this a typo, or is there some new technical terminology where multiple DRAM dies are referred to as dice? AFAIK, dice refer to small multi-sided objects used in D&D campaigns or Vegas trips to the craps table.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_(integrated_circuit) suggests that dice, dies and die are all accepted plurals but by listing dice first suggests it may be the most commonly accepted plural.
Dice was and has always been the correct plural for die, lazy people got dies included because they couldn’t be bothered to learn another English grammar rule.
The future of ECC UDIMM looks bleak. The user base was already small enough in the DDR4 era, but still with some desktop and workstation users. Now the user base has become even smaller as both Intel and AMD workstations moved to RDIMMs, so only industrial PCs and some AMD desktops still use them, making them a low-priority product. This explains why there are many fast RDIMMs for sale today but not many UDIMMs, and why it took ~6 months for AMD to properly support ECC in AGESA firmware for Zen 4 desktops.
Thus it's reasonable to expect UDIMM to move at a slower pace than RDIMM... Fast UDIMMs will probably only become common after JEDEC-spec fast RDIMMs entered use in servers - since today's Intel and AMD CPUs are not rated faster than 4800 MT/s, it will take a while.
So, I can have 256GB of Ram in my mITX motherboard soon (2 x 128GB)? That's awesome... Waiting on my AM5 X675E mITX motherboard with the Zen5 Ryzen 9-9950x CPU and Radeon 3.5 RX-7950XTX. 2024 is the year...
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knightspawn1138 - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
While reading the article, it doesn't feel right to refer to multiple die as dice instead of dies. Is this a typo, or is there some new technical terminology where multiple DRAM dies are referred to as dice? AFAIK, dice refer to small multi-sided objects used in D&D campaigns or Vegas trips to the craps table.nandnandnand - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
I hear about "monolithic dies" all the time, never "dice".DougMcC - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_(integrated_circuit) suggests that dice, dies and die are all accepted plurals but by listing dice first suggests it may be the most commonly accepted plural.Sahrin - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
Dice was and has always been the correct plural for die, lazy people got dies included because they couldn’t be bothered to learn another English grammar rule.Rοb - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
The plural form of 'die' (a type of tool) is dies.The plural form of 'die' (a 6-sided object used in games) is dice.
Dice is also singular, so those that argue (that in this usage) the plural of die is dice should have simply used dice in the first place.
Tunnah - Sunday, November 12, 2023 - link
Why did you type that out like you'd c&p'ed it from somewhere legit when it's something you pulled out your arse ?die (plural dice or (nonstandard) dies)
nandnandnand - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
That's a fast RDIMM.64 GB UDIMMs incoming?
niconiconi - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
The future of ECC UDIMM looks bleak. The user base was already small enough in the DDR4 era, but still with some desktop and workstation users. Now the user base has become even smaller as both Intel and AMD workstations moved to RDIMMs, so only industrial PCs and some AMD desktops still use them, making them a low-priority product. This explains why there are many fast RDIMMs for sale today but not many UDIMMs, and why it took ~6 months for AMD to properly support ECC in AGESA firmware for Zen 4 desktops.Thus it's reasonable to expect UDIMM to move at a slower pace than RDIMM... Fast UDIMMs will probably only become common after JEDEC-spec fast RDIMMs entered use in servers - since today's Intel and AMD CPUs are not rated faster than 4800 MT/s, it will take a while.
brucethemoose - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
They might be CAMM only since they are so fast.HotdogNoire - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
Huh. I didn't know that Micron manufactured abnormaly sized dice, good to know.Dr_b_ - Thursday, November 9, 2023 - link
Micron rolled a 32 with their dicedeil - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
Finally. 128GB laptops and 64GB dims. 14'' were stuck at 16GB for 5-9 years by now....systemBuilder33 - Friday, November 10, 2023 - link
Indeed, with 128GB of RAM you can put 5 x 4k movies into RAM on your Apple M3 Mac Plus Max Ultra for that overseas plane flight :-).HardwareDufus - Saturday, November 11, 2023 - link
So, I can have 256GB of Ram in my mITX motherboard soon (2 x 128GB)? That's awesome... Waiting on my AM5 X675E mITX motherboard with the Zen5 Ryzen 9-9950x CPU and Radeon 3.5 RX-7950XTX. 2024 is the year...Oxford Guy - Monday, November 13, 2023 - link
‘capable of reaching up to 8000 MT/s while also operating with much more aggressive timing latencies compared to the standard JEDEC specs.’Therefore, this site won’t be testing them.