I don’t think they have enough to compete in the mainstream laptop space. There isn’t anything Snapdragon X Elite is bringing that won’t already be on the market with AMD and Intel laptops which both now have silicon dedicated to inferencing.
While the core looks impressive, their inability to pair with a lower power, higher efficiency cores showed when they didn’t make any device battery life claims.I don’t see any technological incentive to buy Qualcomm laptops.
> which both now have silicon dedicated to inferencing.
This is not really true with Intel until Meteor Lake.
As for AMD, as far as I know, the AI block is basically going unused because nothing supports it outside a few simple demos. I think Intel is in better shape here due to the wider proliferation of their AI frameworks even at this early stage.
The Snapdragon X Elite should be listed as a Microsoft Commissioned Processor as it's only made for Windows thin And lights. And AMD's AI support on Ryzen 7040 series APUs is limited to Windows currently as there's no Linux Support for that on Linux. And really I'm only interested in the Oryon Cores and Hopefully there will be other Oryon core based systems for Android and Linux as I'm not on Windows any longer.
And I was disappointed in the day 2 Qualcomm event lacking in any deeper dive into the Oryon core's workings and there being no CPU core block diagram like AMD and Intel present along with their new Core design presentations. So really Qualcomm disappoints there as far as actual technical details of the Oryon CPU core hardware.
Actually, for a "Microsoft Commissioned Processor", I found the absence of any senior MS exec or at least a spokesperson at this whole event especially noteworthy. Not exactly the ringing endorsement from Redmond, is it? And unless MS really throws serious weight behind this SoC, its impressive numbers won't matter much. Imagine an Apple M1, M2 or M3 without the ecosystem of MacOS behind it - that's the equivalent for this Oryon core-based SoC if MS doesn't stand behind it. Qualcomm won't sell millions of these just running Linux, and even support by QC for that leaves much to be desired.
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The Hardcard - Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - link
I don’t think they have enough to compete in the mainstream laptop space. There isn’t anything Snapdragon X Elite is bringing that won’t already be on the market with AMD and Intel laptops which both now have silicon dedicated to inferencing.While the core looks impressive, their inability to pair with a lower power, higher efficiency cores showed when they didn’t make any device battery life claims.I don’t see any technological incentive to buy Qualcomm laptops.
brucethemoose - Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - link
> which both now have silicon dedicated to inferencing.This is not really true with Intel until Meteor Lake.
As for AMD, as far as I know, the AI block is basically going unused because nothing supports it outside a few simple demos. I think Intel is in better shape here due to the wider proliferation of their AI frameworks even at this early stage.
FWhitTrampoline - Thursday, October 26, 2023 - link
The Snapdragon X Elite should be listed as a Microsoft Commissioned Processor as it's only made for Windows thin And lights. And AMD's AI support on Ryzen 7040 series APUs is limited to Windows currently as there's no Linux Support for that on Linux. And really I'm only interested in the Oryon Cores and Hopefully there will be other Oryon core based systems for Android and Linux as I'm not on Windows any longer.And I was disappointed in the day 2 Qualcomm event lacking in any deeper dive into the Oryon core's workings and there being no CPU core block diagram like AMD and Intel present along with their new Core design presentations. So really Qualcomm disappoints there as far as actual technical details of the Oryon CPU core hardware.
Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Saturday, October 28, 2023 - link
Just look at their summary slides with tonnes of little panels and figures, their marketing takes a lot of cues but not from Intel or AMD...eastcoast_pete - Sunday, October 29, 2023 - link
Actually, for a "Microsoft Commissioned Processor", I found the absence of any senior MS exec or at least a spokesperson at this whole event especially noteworthy. Not exactly the ringing endorsement from Redmond, is it? And unless MS really throws serious weight behind this SoC, its impressive numbers won't matter much. Imagine an Apple M1, M2 or M3 without the ecosystem of MacOS behind it - that's the equivalent for this Oryon core-based SoC if MS doesn't stand behind it. Qualcomm won't sell millions of these just running Linux, and even support by QC for that leaves much to be desired.lemurbutton - Monday, October 30, 2023 - link
Oryon blows AMD mobile CPUs out of the water in terms of efficiency.