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  • Calabros - Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - link

    65nm just never dies.
  • Glaurung - Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - link

    Why should it? Fully amortized foundry with no EUV equipment required, no multiple exposures required = extremely cheap production cost. Fully mature process node = very low rate of faulty chips. For a class of simple chips that don't need to cram in lots of transistors or need the lowest possible power draw, there's no benefit from going smaller.
  • FunBunny2 - Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - link

    I read here some time ago that making any/most/all embedded processor chips (in the xxK transistor count class) on 'current' nodes would yield a chip that was near microscopic. I think, but not sure, that mounting such in a package was said to be really difficult, since the wiring points would be so close together.
  • Threska - Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - link

    Makes for a move from "system on a chip" to "car on a chip". At least a leg up in autonomous vehicles.
  • Kevin G - Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - link

    The lithography mechanics at 65 nm are very mature but Intel does need to adapter a bit to SOI. There is likely going to be a small learning curve and ramp up before things resume. However with the high yields expected of 65 nm today, their is still going to be a slight premium invoked for using SOI wafers. Still cheap, just not as cheap as one would initially expect.
  • shing3232 - Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - link

    anything lower than 65nm is undesirable for CMOS.
  • Samus - Monday, September 11, 2023 - link

    Exactly this. And CMOS isn't going anywhere. There are so many conditions where the integrity offered by 65nm is critical, especially outer space.
  • StevoLincolnite - Wednesday, September 13, 2023 - link

    And you can still make fairly decent chips on 65nm. I.E. 1 Billion transistors at 400mm2.
  • RicksCollege - Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - link

    Anyone who knows/has worked for Russel Ellwanger (pronounced El-vonger) knows he’s kind of a pompous a-hole. Told me once that nobody helped him get to where he is today. That’s right, Russel Ellwanger invented it all.

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