The terminology invented to label a user or use case so that a product can appeal to a target audience is absurd. Has anyone ever put actual thought in to the word "hyperscalers" and how stupid it sounds?
It's fairly descriptive, all things considered. This is a drive aimed at a handful of companies that can quickly achieve a deployment scale where the product makes sense. Even most enterprises wouldn't have a use case for UltraSMR-style hard drives.
I think you may want to understand which companies are labeled "hyperscalers" and their actual volume in terms of total market share before you criticise it.
It's perfectly descriptive though. It follows the same sort of naming conventions we have for when we reach the pinnacle of size or achievement within that field.
It's not a term someone created just for brownie points to make a company feel special. Hyperscalars are kinda already pretty damn special. Ya know..because they're hyperscalars.
You're assuming someone has reached a pinnacle which is either exceptionally optimistic or dreadfully pessimistic depending on how in interpret potential future technological advancement.
Seriously? We aren't assuming anyone has reached the top of anything. Technology is a constantly evolving sliding scale. For example, up until a decade ago we didn't have "hyper cars" but only "super cars." The designation was required as the super car segment became saturated with vehicles from non-exotic brands excelling on previously defined performance categories.
The same is happening in tech, especially cloud computing. There are hundreds of companies that own data centers in the USA alone from small ISP's to mega-conglomerates. As data centers become more vastly equipped to handle a variety of tasks and storage capacity is increase exponentially beyond the lower-tier competitors, there needs to be a defining category to separate the pack.
Without definitions we have $60k Tesla Model 3's competing with $3m Bugatti Chirons.
Enterprise and consumer markets are very different in this particular segment... Agreed though, it is a dumb word. I wont dignify it by typing it out LOL
"[UltraSMR] also requires the company's partners to tailor their software for UltraSMR and avoid rewriting data or making many random writes."
So is this host-managed SMR, or does the host have to "guess" where writes are going to? (Which is unfortunately how HDDs have worked through to today.)
I have to agree with Ryan here, UltraSMR will not work for most consumer use-cases. For example, we can't afford to rewrite our own SW to limit random writes.
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PeachNCream - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
The terminology invented to label a user or use case so that a product can appeal to a target audience is absurd. Has anyone ever put actual thought in to the word "hyperscalers" and how stupid it sounds?Ryan Smith - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
It's fairly descriptive, all things considered. This is a drive aimed at a handful of companies that can quickly achieve a deployment scale where the product makes sense. Even most enterprises wouldn't have a use case for UltraSMR-style hard drives.ksec - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
I think you may want to understand which companies are labeled "hyperscalers" and their actual volume in terms of total market share before you criticise it.Tunnah - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
It's perfectly descriptive though. It follows the same sort of naming conventions we have for when we reach the pinnacle of size or achievement within that field.It's not a term someone created just for brownie points to make a company feel special. Hyperscalars are kinda already pretty damn special. Ya know..because they're hyperscalars.
PeachNCream - Wednesday, August 2, 2023 - link
You're assuming someone has reached a pinnacle which is either exceptionally optimistic or dreadfully pessimistic depending on how in interpret potential future technological advancement.Samus - Thursday, August 3, 2023 - link
Seriously? We aren't assuming anyone has reached the top of anything. Technology is a constantly evolving sliding scale. For example, up until a decade ago we didn't have "hyper cars" but only "super cars." The designation was required as the super car segment became saturated with vehicles from non-exotic brands excelling on previously defined performance categories.The same is happening in tech, especially cloud computing. There are hundreds of companies that own data centers in the USA alone from small ISP's to mega-conglomerates. As data centers become more vastly equipped to handle a variety of tasks and storage capacity is increase exponentially beyond the lower-tier competitors, there needs to be a defining category to separate the pack.
Without definitions we have $60k Tesla Model 3's competing with $3m Bugatti Chirons.
PeachNCream - Thursday, August 3, 2023 - link
There's the inevitable tech compared to cars thing. Also, read the post I was responding to before you enter nerd mansplain frenzy mode.Skeptical123 - Saturday, August 5, 2023 - link
I suggest ignoring this poster, their post history is not very inspiring.goatfajitas - Wednesday, August 2, 2023 - link
Enterprise and consumer markets are very different in this particular segment... Agreed though, it is a dumb word. I wont dignify it by typing it out LOLballsystemlord - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
"[UltraSMR] also requires the company's partners to tailor their software for UltraSMR and avoid rewriting data or making many random writes."So is this host-managed SMR, or does the host have to "guess" where writes are going to? (Which is unfortunately how HDDs have worked through to today.)
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
Host-managed SMR.ballsystemlord - Wednesday, August 2, 2023 - link
Thanks!boozed - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
"Western Digital preps Anandtech's new recommended consumer drive"Ryan Smith - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
I don't see us suggesting an SMR drive any time soon. Never mind the fact that this drive isn't slated to be available on the retail market.ballsystemlord - Wednesday, August 2, 2023 - link
I have to agree with Ryan here, UltraSMR will not work for most consumer use-cases. For example, we can't afford to rewrite our own SW to limit random writes.boozed - Wednesday, August 2, 2023 - link
Just a little joke about the consumer segment recommendation always being surprisingly largeballsystemlord - Thursday, August 3, 2023 - link
Ah, you might want to indicate you're joking somehow, like " ;) " or "ha ha".boozed - Friday, August 4, 2023 - link
I figured the idea being ridiculous would be enough ;)ballsystemlord - Friday, August 4, 2023 - link
Good point.