The 2400 is on the 4nm LPP node because it was designed around it. Converting the architecture of a CPU to a new node isn't trivial. It took Intel a year to do it back when they had tick tock, but since 14nm that has become even more challenging.
Intel is not doing it as its having issues with its nodes. Otherwise from Tiger Lake onwards they are trying to architect CPU independent of nodes. If Intel could get its intel 4 working today in high volume, we will see MTL for sure.
Here Samsung is advertising that it has SF3E working since 2022 without any SOC for it. Which makes me think its in a terrible shape.
They probably will, AMD and Nvidia should produce low/mid-end GPUs in this process as it's superior to 4nm and cheaper than tsmc's 3nm. These chips for ASICs were supposed to be the first wave of risk production, just as Apple is a first wave customer of TSMC...
No, the time to buy was actually the entirety of June, all the way up to Prime day (July 11, 12). Currently the prices are not as low, and probably won't ever be as low during the next 3 months.
Time will tell, but the time may have been June, or may be 3 months from now. I remember in 2011 I bought 32 GB RAM for $110, 4 years later it was 3 times that price. Then the same wave happened a few years later.
Stock up people, they are planning another shortage in a couple of years.
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trivik12 - Friday, July 28, 2023 - link
Why on earth doesn't Samsung make an exynos on SF3E or any other 3nm class process !!!Samus - Friday, July 28, 2023 - link
The 2400 is on the 4nm LPP node because it was designed around it. Converting the architecture of a CPU to a new node isn't trivial. It took Intel a year to do it back when they had tick tock, but since 14nm that has become even more challenging.trivik12 - Monday, August 7, 2023 - link
Intel is not doing it as its having issues with its nodes. Otherwise from Tiger Lake onwards they are trying to architect CPU independent of nodes. If Intel could get its intel 4 working today in high volume, we will see MTL for sure.Here Samsung is advertising that it has SF3E working since 2022 without any SOC for it. Which makes me think its in a terrible shape.
meacupla - Friday, July 28, 2023 - link
Isn't it obvious?No other major brands want to use it
Samsung themselves aren't using it
It most likely has high rates of error, and has poor yields on larger chips. Which means it needs more time to mature.
Dante Verizon - Saturday, July 29, 2023 - link
They probably will, AMD and Nvidia should produce low/mid-end GPUs in this process as it's superior to 4nm and cheaper than tsmc's 3nm. These chips for ASICs were supposed to be the first wave of risk production, just as Apple is a first wave customer of TSMC...t.s - Saturday, July 29, 2023 - link
Nobody want exynos. I'm using galaxy M14 with exynos 1330 5nm. And boy, it's quite power hungry.Threska - Sunday, July 30, 2023 - link
Maybe they should go back to 7nm.https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/202...
boozed - Friday, July 28, 2023 - link
Wow 3nm chips must take a long time to make if they're only up to #3brucethemoose - Saturday, July 29, 2023 - link
> The losses, stemming from its semiconductor business, come amid a continued slump in 3D NAND and DRAM sales volumes and prices.So... The time to buy a RAM upgrade is probably the next ~3 months?
meacupla - Saturday, July 29, 2023 - link
No, the time to buy was actually the entirety of June, all the way up to Prime day (July 11, 12).Currently the prices are not as low, and probably won't ever be as low during the next 3 months.
andychow - Monday, August 7, 2023 - link
Time will tell, but the time may have been June, or may be 3 months from now. I remember in 2011 I bought 32 GB RAM for $110, 4 years later it was 3 times that price. Then the same wave happened a few years later.Stock up people, they are planning another shortage in a couple of years.