I'm pretty sure the Mini-ITX standard is for motherboards and has nothing at all to do with expansion card measurements, but whatever it takes to label a product in these desperate times for consumer electronics companies will likely be tried to conjure up sales in a disinterested market.
I'm pretty sure this pedantry is annoying and pointless, when it's clear that case manufacturers and card manufacturers have come up with some relatively tight de-facto standards about what constitutes a full-length card and what constitutes an ITX card. I can confidently use ITX in the search field and find a number of options, mostly anemic but occasionally a good option like this 4060.
Not sure why you would get annoyed over the fact that Mini-ITX is a motherboard rather than an expansion card form factor. If that's new information to you, rather than lashing out, you could do a bit of research. To be fair, the industry often mixes standardization with marketing like this so I can understand your confusion.
You haven't delivered any facts here. The motherboard "standard" Mini-ITX has no more standards bodies concerning its development and design than the graphics card standard. It has tighter tolerances, but tight tolerances aren't actually a requirement for a set of parameters to be considered a "standard."
Tolerances really aren't something I was thinking about with ITX. Maybe I can help by elaborating a little to clear up your confusion and calm things down a bit. ITX motherboard layout is basically a smaller ATX standard board. Where relevant, it maintains identical screw hole layout and generally retains one expansion slot. Power connectors are typically identical to same-generation ATX as well, but the ITX standards were never applied to anything other than motherboards. The use in this article to associate it with an expansion card is likely a loose application of the term to generate sales from would-be buyers and, as other people have noted in comments below that I hope you take the time to read and understand since some of them are really well-informed, buyer research is still necessary given variances in small form factor cases that are designed to support ITX motherboards.
I hope that helps you to understand a bit better. I totally get that the industry can be confusing and that can cause significant emotional distress, but with a bit of Google-fu and some time reading (Wikipedia has some excellent starting articles AND there are lots of YouTube videos you can also watch on the subject -- though double-check those videos for credibility) you can learn lots about these sorts of things and identify when companies like this co-opt a standard for their own uses. Good luck in discovering PC technology and don't get discouraged or frustrated, it's not worth it!
The funny thing is that compact mini-ITX cases will NOT accept a "mini-ITX" card, while gamer mini-ITX cases accept larger cards. I've never seen a case that accepts "mini-ITX" cards and nothing larger, but maybe one exists?
I have a Cooler Master Elite 110 mini ITX case which is pretty restrictive - officially it can take cards up to 210 mm / 8.268" - but the "hole" to get it into the case is a bit shorter than that, and, if you have a power connector on the end like this lenovo card, then you'll have to leave space for that too.
Not sure what the exact length is on the lenovo card, but just from eyeballing it, I think it would fit nicely.
Many of the earliest ITX cases such as the FT03-mini (over 10 year old design) support dual slot cards, albeit only 10" in length. Most SFF systems support dual slot cards in my experience, its the card length (and cooling capacity of the case limited by volume and airflow) that restrict modern cards from being used. The demise of blower-style coolers has been an Achilles of SFF for awhile, too, as those designs exhausted 'most' of the heat generated by the GPU out of the case, not into it.
Gigabyte has a half height 4060, which I think is more interesting. 4060, 4070, and 4080 look massive, but they have very short PCBs. They just have massive overhang from their heatsinks.
Not gonna lie, but Lenovo's card here looks REALLY good. Almost like an official NVIDIA Founders Edition version. It would be a shame if they didn't sell it retail to everyone, though I of course realize that isn't what Lenovo does.
What Id like to know is when the majors are going to move on from releasing a boatload of ATX choices every generation and a few, if any, token ITX boards which end up being super expensive, more from an artificial lack of choice than anything.
There will always be outliers (the crazy gamer wanting 3 gpus or file hoarder needing a 150TB array) but honestly according to steam survay the vast majority use a single GPU and no extra addin cards prompting the question why the hell are we still stuck with ATX?
Looking at an ATX case after bulding into them for over two decades makes my heart sad. So much wasted space, such an old design, yesterdays tech resold as tomorrows new build and no major company has the will, ability or care to actually move on here and just churns out the same tired old designs year in year out.
Compact GPUs aren't popular, because most cases work just fine with XL and XXXXXXXXXXXXL cards. Compact GPUs tend usually sacrifice power stability, and do poorly with transient power spikes, which also happen to be a weak point of SFX PSUs. That ultra compact PCB usually has fewer VRM power phases, so anything above the lowest spec is unlikely to work well.
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PeachNCream - Monday, July 17, 2023 - link
I'm pretty sure the Mini-ITX standard is for motherboards and has nothing at all to do with expansion card measurements, but whatever it takes to label a product in these desperate times for consumer electronics companies will likely be tried to conjure up sales in a disinterested market.lmcd - Monday, July 17, 2023 - link
I'm pretty sure this pedantry is annoying and pointless, when it's clear that case manufacturers and card manufacturers have come up with some relatively tight de-facto standards about what constitutes a full-length card and what constitutes an ITX card. I can confidently use ITX in the search field and find a number of options, mostly anemic but occasionally a good option like this 4060.PeachNCream - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
Not sure why you would get annoyed over the fact that Mini-ITX is a motherboard rather than an expansion card form factor. If that's new information to you, rather than lashing out, you could do a bit of research. To be fair, the industry often mixes standardization with marketing like this so I can understand your confusion.lmcd - Friday, July 21, 2023 - link
You haven't delivered any facts here. The motherboard "standard" Mini-ITX has no more standards bodies concerning its development and design than the graphics card standard. It has tighter tolerances, but tight tolerances aren't actually a requirement for a set of parameters to be considered a "standard."PeachNCream - Sunday, July 23, 2023 - link
Tolerances really aren't something I was thinking about with ITX. Maybe I can help by elaborating a little to clear up your confusion and calm things down a bit. ITX motherboard layout is basically a smaller ATX standard board. Where relevant, it maintains identical screw hole layout and generally retains one expansion slot. Power connectors are typically identical to same-generation ATX as well, but the ITX standards were never applied to anything other than motherboards. The use in this article to associate it with an expansion card is likely a loose application of the term to generate sales from would-be buyers and, as other people have noted in comments below that I hope you take the time to read and understand since some of them are really well-informed, buyer research is still necessary given variances in small form factor cases that are designed to support ITX motherboards.I hope that helps you to understand a bit better. I totally get that the industry can be confusing and that can cause significant emotional distress, but with a bit of Google-fu and some time reading (Wikipedia has some excellent starting articles AND there are lots of YouTube videos you can also watch on the subject -- though double-check those videos for credibility) you can learn lots about these sorts of things and identify when companies like this co-opt a standard for their own uses. Good luck in discovering PC technology and don't get discouraged or frustrated, it's not worth it!
cbm80 - Monday, July 17, 2023 - link
The funny thing is that compact mini-ITX cases will NOT accept a "mini-ITX" card, while gamer mini-ITX cases accept larger cards. I've never seen a case that accepts "mini-ITX" cards and nothing larger, but maybe one exists?nfriedly - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
I have a Cooler Master Elite 110 mini ITX case which is pretty restrictive - officially it can take cards up to 210 mm / 8.268" - but the "hole" to get it into the case is a bit shorter than that, and, if you have a power connector on the end like this lenovo card, then you'll have to leave space for that too.Not sure what the exact length is on the lenovo card, but just from eyeballing it, I think it would fit nicely.
lmcd - Friday, July 21, 2023 - link
My old Silverstone ML08 designed its tolerances so there is a 3.5in HDD mount that works with Mini-ITX cards, but bigger cards will prevent its use.TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
Mini-ITX GPUs are designed to fit int he same length of case as a mini ITX motherboard, not overhanging it.Why do you people have to be mad about everything?
Samus - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
Many of the earliest ITX cases such as the FT03-mini (over 10 year old design) support dual slot cards, albeit only 10" in length. Most SFF systems support dual slot cards in my experience, its the card length (and cooling capacity of the case limited by volume and airflow) that restrict modern cards from being used. The demise of blower-style coolers has been an Achilles of SFF for awhile, too, as those designs exhausted 'most' of the heat generated by the GPU out of the case, not into it.meacupla - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
Gigabyte has a half height 4060, which I think is more interesting.4060, 4070, and 4080 look massive, but they have very short PCBs. They just have massive overhang from their heatsinks.
nfriedly - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
Yeah, agreed. If they weren't so outrageously expensive, they'd be good candidates for upgrading cheap used office PCs.TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
My question is where are the 4070 mini ITX cards? It's power use is right around the 2070 super, which had mini ITX variants.NextGen_Gamer - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
Not gonna lie, but Lenovo's card here looks REALLY good. Almost like an official NVIDIA Founders Edition version. It would be a shame if they didn't sell it retail to everyone, though I of course realize that isn't what Lenovo does.MadAd - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
What Id like to know is when the majors are going to move on from releasing a boatload of ATX choices every generation and a few, if any, token ITX boards which end up being super expensive, more from an artificial lack of choice than anything.There will always be outliers (the crazy gamer wanting 3 gpus or file hoarder needing a 150TB array) but honestly according to steam survay the vast majority use a single GPU and no extra addin cards prompting the question why the hell are we still stuck with ATX?
Looking at an ATX case after bulding into them for over two decades makes my heart sad. So much wasted space, such an old design, yesterdays tech resold as tomorrows new build and no major company has the will, ability or care to actually move on here and just churns out the same tired old designs year in year out.
Its depressing.
TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
"What Id like to know is when the majors are going to move on from releasing a boatload of ATX choices"When they stop making up 95% of sales.
meacupla - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
Compact GPUs aren't popular, because most cases work just fine with XL and XXXXXXXXXXXXL cards.Compact GPUs tend usually sacrifice power stability, and do poorly with transient power spikes, which also happen to be a weak point of SFX PSUs. That ultra compact PCB usually has fewer VRM power phases, so anything above the lowest spec is unlikely to work well.
cbm80 - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
If you don't need portability, case volume doesn't matter, only case footprint.logoffon - Wednesday, July 19, 2023 - link
Wake me up when they're able to make a consumer equivalent to RTX 4000 Ada with its low profile size and no power connectors. I'll wait.