Would you not expect a "normal" PSU to last 10 years? My old XFX Pro Core 550W is going on 11+ years now happily running my main rig several CPU generations on.
I've been running a PC Power & Cooling 750 quad since 2006. It's been through 4 motherboards, 8 videocards (including two SLI setups) and is in its third case. The cables were internally modified by PCP&C in 2010 for EPS+ (8+4 pin) from the standard EPS (4+4) it came with, and I recently modified it for dual 6+2 pin direct from the PCB instead of using transformers to run my RTX 4080.
Total draw at the wall is according to my APC UPS is 650 watts at maximum load on my 12700k during CPU burn, with furmark running at 4k, so under its 'rated' spec though like most high end PSU's the rating is quite conservative. The later silencer III 850 was based on the 750 quad design, released under OCZ.
Sure if I had a 4090 on some insane overclock going on my 12700k, I'd eclipse the 732-watt save zone of the 12v rail (as indicated by AT's review in 2007) but considering how much stress I've given this thing over nearly 20 years, with ~150,000 hours, it doesn't owe me anything and has been one of the best tech investments of my lifetime.
TL;dr if something has a 10+ year warranty and the company has been in business long enough to endorse a repair claim, you can safely assume the product is solid.
Last Corsair ax1200i top notch of the line lasted only 9 months, Thermaltakes are loud as f1 cars. So BeQuite sits in range where it's really quiet, delivers good power and is reliable. I hope Dark Power Pro 13 series to last at least 3 years operational, not like most corsairs which didn't lived a year.
It is not ideal to buy a power supply now when nVidia is already shipping cards that use the replacement for the quickly-obsoleted 12VHPWR connector. PSU manufacturers that supply the video card via two standard 6-pin connectors can just replace the cable, but when the PSU has 12VHPWR on the board itself, you're stuck with it.
Backwards compatible yes, but you do not get the safety benefits of the new connector using the old connector. The only PSUs that can provide the benefits of the new connector are those that use two 6-pin connectors rather than a special 12VHPWR connector. These include Corsair, Seasonic, and a few other vendors. Even with those you will need a new cable, but at least not a new PSU.
What's the rectifying circuit from mains like (active, pfc-coupled in series before it, passive ?)? How is resistance with dust clogging over years (high fan rpms) and thermal protection on low power demand (with low efficiency on that part of the performance profile and lower efficiency heat distribution on lower fan speeds)? (thx)
I ordered components for a new build last week and I avoided this PSU because there are numerous reports on different sites of the fan making a ticking noise. Furthermore, other high-end PSU's have 0 RPM fans on low loads, this one does not. Simply not acceptable for a PSU costing 400$. (Since I did the research for my build: FSP Hydro Ti Pro is the best ATX 3.0 PSU currently on the market.)
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Threska - Wednesday, July 26, 2023 - link
Sounds like a lot but amortized over that ten years it's quite reasonable.ballsystemlord - Thursday, July 27, 2023 - link
I have to admit, it looks like a great PSU and is a bit quieter, even at full fan speeds, than some of the competition.mm0zct - Friday, July 28, 2023 - link
Would you not expect a "normal" PSU to last 10 years? My old XFX Pro Core 550W is going on 11+ years now happily running my main rig several CPU generations on.ballsystemlord - Friday, July 28, 2023 - link
My "normal" PSU didn't...Samus - Friday, July 28, 2023 - link
I've been running a PC Power & Cooling 750 quad since 2006. It's been through 4 motherboards, 8 videocards (including two SLI setups) and is in its third case. The cables were internally modified by PCP&C in 2010 for EPS+ (8+4 pin) from the standard EPS (4+4) it came with, and I recently modified it for dual 6+2 pin direct from the PCB instead of using transformers to run my RTX 4080.Total draw at the wall is according to my APC UPS is 650 watts at maximum load on my 12700k during CPU burn, with furmark running at 4k, so under its 'rated' spec though like most high end PSU's the rating is quite conservative. The later silencer III 850 was based on the 750 quad design, released under OCZ.
Sure if I had a 4090 on some insane overclock going on my 12700k, I'd eclipse the 732-watt save zone of the 12v rail (as indicated by AT's review in 2007) but considering how much stress I've given this thing over nearly 20 years, with ~150,000 hours, it doesn't owe me anything and has been one of the best tech investments of my lifetime.
TL;dr if something has a 10+ year warranty and the company has been in business long enough to endorse a repair claim, you can safely assume the product is solid.
Itlotus - Thursday, October 12, 2023 - link
Last Corsair ax1200i top notch of the line lasted only 9 months, Thermaltakes are loud as f1 cars. So BeQuite sits in range where it's really quiet, delivers good power and is reliable. I hope Dark Power Pro 13 series to last at least 3 years operational, not like most corsairs which didn't lived a year.Sivar - Wednesday, July 26, 2023 - link
It is not ideal to buy a power supply now when nVidia is already shipping cards that use the replacement for the quickly-obsoleted 12VHPWR connector.PSU manufacturers that supply the video card via two standard 6-pin connectors can just replace the cable, but when the PSU has 12VHPWR on the board itself, you're stuck with it.
meacupla - Wednesday, July 26, 2023 - link
I thought 12VHPWR and 12V-2x6 were backwards compatible?Ryan Smith - Wednesday, July 26, 2023 - link
There are no official specifications on the latter yet. But yes, that is expected to be the case.Sivar - Sunday, July 30, 2023 - link
Backwards compatible yes, but you do not get the safety benefits of the new connector using the old connector. The only PSUs that can provide the benefits of the new connector are those that use two 6-pin connectors rather than a special 12VHPWR connector. These include Corsair, Seasonic, and a few other vendors.Even with those you will need a new cable, but at least not a new PSU.
ballsystemlord - Thursday, July 27, 2023 - link
Dumb question, where's a good article about the new connector?Thanks!
Sivar - Sunday, July 30, 2023 - link
I have been most impressed by this Greek guy:https://hwbusters.com/psus/how-to-select-a-new-psu...
https://hwbusters.com/news/no-more-12vhpwr-connect...
escksu - Wednesday, July 26, 2023 - link
Hmm... not sure if its worth the money for a CWT PSU. CWT is pretty decent but there are much better ones like Delta and Flextronics.back2future - Sunday, July 30, 2023 - link
What's the rectifying circuit from mains like (active, pfc-coupled in series before it, passive ?)?How is resistance with dust clogging over years (high fan rpms) and thermal protection on low power demand (with low efficiency on that part of the performance profile and lower efficiency heat distribution on lower fan speeds)? (thx)
thedarkbird - Tuesday, August 1, 2023 - link
I ordered components for a new build last week and I avoided this PSU because there are numerous reports on different sites of the fan making a ticking noise. Furthermore, other high-end PSU's have 0 RPM fans on low loads, this one does not. Simply not acceptable for a PSU costing 400$.(Since I did the research for my build: FSP Hydro Ti Pro is the best ATX 3.0 PSU currently on the market.)
Itlotus - Thursday, October 12, 2023 - link
Hydro ti is quiet but 1kW is not enough for overclocking, especially for trx4 if you have 32 cores and use them.Tom Sunday - Monday, August 7, 2023 - link
Why did they simply not label the (2) 12VHPWR connectors for which they are...for a novice like me?Jayden Edwards - Wednesday, August 9, 2023 - link
I heard that they were recognized as defective. And at this price, it's just unacceptable.