My guess would be There was a big silicon shortage, so they allocated more manufacturing to the higher end chips + They probably had significantly better yields than expected for the higher bin of this CPU, so AMD just couldn't produce a large enough quantity binned for R3 5100.
My question would be where would these get used? It has no IGPU, so they are unlikely to go in SFF. Maybe something like a NAS? Puzzling
They'll probably get used either by people who buy a high-end GPU and this low-end CPU (Intel quad cores were/are popular for years), or by people who can't afford a more powerful CPU given the rest of the budget of the system. In the second case, recall that iGPUs take up power from the CPU's power budget.
Well, to the extent that they are used, yes. If you use it particularly heavily it will prioritize the GPU and may significantly erode CPU core performance (I've seen it below 1.6Ghz all-core on a 7600), but that's more likely doing something like BOINC. Temps, too, but as the die is separate they might already have to be relatively high.
iGPU only takes power budget if it is being used, which it wouldnt be if the user has a dGPU, which you would for this anyway since the 5100 is pure CPU.
Random side thought - may of the 65W CPUs are OEM only including the 5900 which is a pity. It looks like AMD is maybe short on dies so they are saving the good ones for OEMs and giving the duds that need a lot more power to clueless enthusiasts as "overclockable" chips. A pity that's become the case, but Intel's options with their outrageous TDPs are not a better choice at the moment.
If you require 105W to bump the clocks with the same number of cores from 4.7 GHz to 4.8 GHz which is the difference between the 5900 at 65W and the 5900X at the aforementioned higher wattage, then you can absolutely bet that retail buyers of the X are getting the wool pulled over their eyes as the bend over to willingly grab their ankles while telling themselves they got a better CPU. But I really can't blame AMD for milking enthusiasts because they are 100% inflicting this upon themselves by being so stupid. Works for the auto industry and it works for the computer industry. Fools and their money and all that.
Did you miss the table in the article above these posts? I know there's not a lot to read, but it pretty clearly lists the clockspeed and power requirements.
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ballsystemlord - Wednesday, July 12, 2023 - link
I wonder why they decided to release the 5100 now of all times...meacupla - Wednesday, July 12, 2023 - link
My guess would beThere was a big silicon shortage, so they allocated more manufacturing to the higher end chips + They probably had significantly better yields than expected for the higher bin of this CPU, so AMD just couldn't produce a large enough quantity binned for R3 5100.
My question would be where would these get used? It has no IGPU, so they are unlikely to go in SFF. Maybe something like a NAS? Puzzling
ballsystemlord - Wednesday, July 12, 2023 - link
That's the easy part.They'll probably get used either by people who buy a high-end GPU and this low-end CPU (Intel quad cores were/are popular for years), or by people who can't afford a more powerful CPU given the rest of the budget of the system. In the second case, recall that iGPUs take up power from the CPU's power budget.
GreenReaper - Thursday, July 13, 2023 - link
Well, to the extent that they are used, yes. If you use it particularly heavily it will prioritize the GPU and may significantly erode CPU core performance (I've seen it below 1.6Ghz all-core on a 7600), but that's more likely doing something like BOINC. Temps, too, but as the die is separate they might already have to be relatively high.TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, July 13, 2023 - link
iGPU only takes power budget if it is being used, which it wouldnt be if the user has a dGPU, which you would for this anyway since the 5100 is pure CPU.Dante Verizon - Friday, July 14, 2023 - link
Probably just to use some defective die that would become 5100GPeachNCream - Thursday, July 13, 2023 - link
Random side thought - may of the 65W CPUs are OEM only including the 5900 which is a pity. It looks like AMD is maybe short on dies so they are saving the good ones for OEMs and giving the duds that need a lot more power to clueless enthusiasts as "overclockable" chips. A pity that's become the case, but Intel's options with their outrageous TDPs are not a better choice at the moment.ballsystemlord - Thursday, July 13, 2023 - link
It's rather normal for better overclocking chips to draw a bit more power, so I wouldn't call them duds.PeachNCream - Friday, July 14, 2023 - link
If you require 105W to bump the clocks with the same number of cores from 4.7 GHz to 4.8 GHz which is the difference between the 5900 at 65W and the 5900X at the aforementioned higher wattage, then you can absolutely bet that retail buyers of the X are getting the wool pulled over their eyes as the bend over to willingly grab their ankles while telling themselves they got a better CPU. But I really can't blame AMD for milking enthusiasts because they are 100% inflicting this upon themselves by being so stupid. Works for the auto industry and it works for the computer industry. Fools and their money and all that.ballsystemlord - Friday, July 14, 2023 - link
It's an extra 40W for 700Mhz all core boost. The individual cores *never* draw that much power, nor have *any* Zen cores drawn that much power.This isn't that hard to look up:
1800X: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12625/1800X%20Po...
2700X: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12625/2700X%20Po...
3900X: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/14605/3900X_powe...
5900X: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16214/PerCore-1-...
AT didn't benchmark the power of the 7950X, so I leave that to the reader to find info on.
PeachNCream - Monday, July 17, 2023 - link
Did you miss the table in the article above these posts? I know there's not a lot to read, but it pretty clearly lists the clockspeed and power requirements.Tamdrik - Friday, July 14, 2023 - link
The Ryzen 5 5600 is listed as an OEM processor, but you can buy them on Amazon, Newegg, etc.nandnandnand - Friday, July 14, 2023 - link
https://www.anandtech.com/show/17313/ryzen-7-5800x...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Ryzen_pr...
Ryzen 5 5600 was launched to DIY on April 4, 2022.